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AdderallApocalypse

#1 May 03, 2008, 03:28:16 am

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So, after hearing my mom talk about school prayer, I want to make a topic about it. She says that she is for it, and that those that do not want to do it "Don't have to open their mouths". She was referring to Marilyn O' Hair, and what type of person she is. As for me, I would rather it not be. I am going to say "No". I mean, it doesn't really bother me a lot, but I believe that it would be ideal if schools were left religously neutral.

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Bender

#2 May 03, 2008, 03:38:52 am

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Depends. If the students want to pary, go ahead. If the teachers more or less force students to pary then no.

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Doktormartini

#3 May 03, 2008, 03:46:25 am

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Quote from: Bender on May 03, 2008, 03:38:52 am

Depends. If the students want to pary, go ahead. If the teachers more or less force students to pary then no.

This basically.

I'm pretty sure you are allowed to pray in school if you want, they just can't set aside a special time for prayer.

Dok Choy

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Ryan

#4 May 03, 2008, 04:15:22 am

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no one cares if you silently pray to yourself during school.

the only people who give a shit are the idiotic religious right who want to slowly add in school run prayer services

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Mince Wobley

#5 May 03, 2008, 04:55:40 am

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No because I'm against enforcing religion and yes because I like the idea of a moment dedicated to doing nothing

Play Raimond Ex (if you haven't already)

I'll not TAKE ANYTHING you write like this seriously because it looks dumb

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Ryan

#6 May 03, 2008, 04:59:21 am

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this is slightly unrelated but holy shit i hate ben stein and glenn beck

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Farren

#7 May 03, 2008, 07:23:53 am

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Basically what ryan said

Except with that we need to HOLD THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE imo public schools count as state and we don't need the fucking church in it I'm alright with exposing kids to religion as a sort of historic criteria or something like that but I don't want my kids feeling alienated when all these other little fuckers are surrounded around a flagpole everyday praying to jeesus chriits

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE<br />DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS<br />PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES<br />DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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Bondo

#8 May 03, 2008, 09:05:37 am

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Prayer should be allowed in school, but it should not be mandatory. It should be up to the individual whether they want to pray or not.

A time should not be set aside specifically for prayer, but free time, or time between classes should be fine if a student, or group of students wishes to pray.

A quick silent prayer before a test or lunch is fine.

Basically, prayer should not affect those who do not wish to pray.

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Frisky SKeleton

#9 May 03, 2008, 10:07:35 am

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yeah what is this about, you can't stop kids praying because of FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS or whatever surely?

i dunno right now if i was a kid in america i think i'd rather pledge alegience to christ than the american government but i don't even know what the issue is

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Shepperd

#10 May 03, 2008, 11:08:40 am

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can I know what this prayer is suppsoed to be?
when is it done? first hour of the morning? for how long? where, in the classroom?
etc

Also I voted No because a school is an education institution, please dont mix it with religious institutions

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Ghost_Aspergers

#11 May 03, 2008, 11:16:25 am

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I'm a primitive theo and I am still against structured prayer. Especially if it involves people who don't believe in the same things as I do.

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Feldschlacht IV

#12 May 03, 2008, 03:35:30 pm

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I certainly think it should be allowed, but not enforced. Even Jesus spoke against the almagation of church and state in regards to Caesars policies.

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An Hafferdat Squid

#13 May 03, 2008, 03:41:35 pm

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school is synonymous with monastery anyway

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Mama Luigi

#14 May 03, 2008, 03:47:53 pm

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School sponsered prayer... hell no. People should be allowed to do whatever silly rituals they want though - granted it's not disruptive.

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Kaworu

#15 May 03, 2008, 03:59:38 pm

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When I was at first and middle schools, this was compulsary, every day in assembely. If you didn't take part, they'd call you out infront of like 300-600 other kids. Naturally I am totally against this shit

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xanque

#16 May 03, 2008, 04:06:17 pm

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I never thought Ben Stein would be someone I'd end up hating. He seemed so harmless. I mean, he's still harmless because nobody cares about what he does, so I don't know.

Back when I went to middle school, around the time I still went to church every Sunday, I had to go to this bible school. It was kind of cool because we went on trips to fun places, but we had to do all these stupid prayer things when I just wanted to go to the playground. Anyway, one time we had to go to my middle school campus and go from classroom to classroom for these mini-class things. I was fucking bored out of my mind, so I made the decision to ditch my teacher and run around the school for a while.

They sent out people to find me, but I was pretty good at keeping hidden. One time a lady saw me at the end of the hallway, and yelled something, but I just bolted down another way and she never found me.

But during the classes, I remember one of the "teachers" telling me that I had to participate or else it would affect my real school grades. I knew that was bullshit, but I was pissed that they would threaten to harm my academic career just because I didn't believe Jesus was our savior.

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xanque

#17 May 03, 2008, 04:07:51 pm

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Quote from: Mr Epic Hero on May 03, 2008, 03:47:53 pm

School sponsered prayer... hell no. People should be allowed to do whatever silly rituals they want though - granted it's not disruptive.

The problem is where do you draw the line? It was ridiculous that students were able to leave class to attend prayer sessions around the flagpole at my school. At what point do you say "no, you can't pray because you have to go to class"?

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datamanc3r

#18 May 03, 2008, 05:08:57 pm

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School prayer is fine so long as it does not impede upon the students' learning, or subject them to physical or emotional harm. My high school has various religious clubs that meet during lunch; and that is completely alright with the school administration. It's not like the Islamic and the Christian clubs have a crusade in the middle of the frigging campus. As long as these clubs remain non-exclusive and anyone is safe to join them, this is completely fine.

Get rid of them, and you might as well get rid of the Fil-Am club, or the Black Engineers of America club, or any club for that matter. (Of course, Future Lawyers of America is always full to the brim with smarmy asswipes and should totally be cut out because they are horribly snide and exclusive).

Obviously, the line is drawn when they leave class to go pray. You simply cannot do that.
1. Prayer at that point may only serve as a means to get out of class.
2. This is completely disruptive.
3. I don't think anyone's God will throw a bitch fit if you opt to set aside time for learning integrals of inverse trig functions over prayer.

Of course, I am always fond of the quote:
"As long as there are tests, there will always be Prayer in school."

"I would be totally embarassed to write this, even as a fakepost. it's not funny except in how you seem to think it's good. look at all the redundancies, for fuck's sake. "insipid semantics, despicable mediocrity" ugh gross gross. I want to take a shower every time I read your prose." -Steel

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Kaworu

#19 May 03, 2008, 05:17:38 pm

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Quote from: Xanqui on May 03, 2008, 04:07:51 pm

The problem is where do you draw the line? It was ridiculous that students were able to leave class to attend prayer sessions around the flagpole at my school. At what point do you say "no, you can't pray because you have to go to class"?

The point where it becomes disruptive of their education, and that of others.

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Ragnar

#20 May 03, 2008, 05:30:43 pm

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I'd allow it but I'm going to pray to flying spaghetti monster because I'm an asshat like that

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No	29	69%
To an extent	6	14.3%
Not sure	0	0%
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