Tales of Symphonia 2 & Tales of Vespira

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#61 May 12, 2008, 09:30:17 pm

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Apparently you didn't beat the game huh?

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Apparently I did champ!

I just didnt like it and it was overall a snore fest. Like there was this one airship theme that sounded like the fucking Magic School Bus march. And the second battle theme was just horrendous.

Dont get me wrong, there are some good tracks, but the bad overwhelms the good. "Meaning of Birth", "An Arrow Was Shot", and "Karma" were all pretty good in my eyes. Most of the stuff sounds like all Sakuraba/Tamura's other work, so why should I give praise to the same shit Ive heard for 4 games over?

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#62 May 12, 2008, 10:04:13 pm

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Quote from: darkjak951 on May 11, 2008, 01:09:43 pm

there were STILL a couple of RPGs on the cube when it released like "Baten Kaitos". I also agree that destiny is awesome but abyss and eternia blew that one away. However the ToD remake DOES look awesome, hopfully the cheeky bastards will release it here >:Ι

Hate to break your hopes, but the chances of any of the 2D Tales of PS2 games actually making it here, is zero. I heard somewhere that Sony had some sort of anti-2D policy of some sort, but I don't think that's why they didn't come, because look at Disgaea and all the Nippon Ichi games coming over. Overall, I just don't think Namco thinks that it would be worth it to bring those games over. And we probably wouldn't even have gotten ToS or ToP over here, if it wasn't for Nintendo funding the translation. They did did bring over Legendia and Abyss though, but they were 3D and the PS2 port of ToS never came over, because they didn't want to retranslate the whole game, since Nintendo funded the ToS translation.

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#63 May 12, 2008, 11:28:24 pm

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Quote from: Arnold on May 12, 2008, 10:04:13 pm

Hate to break your hopes, but the chances of any of the 2D Tales of PS2 games actually making it here, is zero. I heard somewhere that Sony had some sort of anti-2D policy of some sort, but I don't think that's why they didn't come, because look at Disgaea and all the Nippon Ichi games coming over.

Not all ps2 games are in 3D. For example, there is a game called "Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis" and that was 2D. Not to mention other games on the PS2 like Arcana Heart.

Quote from: Arnold on May 12, 2008, 10:04:13 pm

Overall, I just don't think Namco thinks that it would be worth it to bring those games over. And we probably wouldn't even have gotten ToS or ToP over here, if it wasn't for Nintendo funding the translation. They did did bring over Legendia and Abyss though, but they were 3D and the PS2 port of ToS never came over, because they didn't want to retranslate the whole game, since Nintendo funded the ToS translation

Well, Tales of Eternia came here before both ToS and ToP i belive and it kicked ass

. Also, I wouldnt count legendia as a "Fully 3D game". Granted, there was not a 2D sprite to be found in the game really however the game's view is practically overhead, the characters are chibi, and the battle system is 2D like phantasia's. Legendia was my first tales game and I have to say, I hated it. The main character is a complete asshole, the battle system sucked(worse than phantasia), and the random encounters are too frequent. Now random encounters should have just stayed dead in Eternia but they just HAAAD to bring it back. Basically, I thought this game was the low point of the series. Abyss was bought here due to one reason, fans would not shut up. Namco was more giving back then but now no matter how much begging, we will not get jack shit from them no matter how much we beg or cry about it. All of that fans not shutting up did make it worth while as Abyss was a breath of fresh air after the abysmal Legendia.
ok, rant over

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#64 May 12, 2008, 11:33:51 pm

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Quote from: darkjak951 on May 12, 2008, 11:28:24 pm

Not all ps2 games are in 3D. For example, there is a game called "Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis" and that was 2D. Not to mention other games on the PS2 like Arcana Heart.
Well, Tales of Eternia came here before both ToS and ToP i belive and it kicked ass . Also, I wouldnt count legendia as a "Fully 3D game". Granted, there was not a 2D sprite to be found in the game really however the game's view is practically overhead, the characters are chibi, and the battle system is 2D like phantasia's. Legendia was my first tales game and I have to say, I hated it. The main character is a complete asshole, the battle system sucked(worse than phantasia), and the random encounters are too frequent. Now random encounters should have just stayed dead in Eternia but they just HAAAD to bring it back. Basically, I thought this game was the low point of the series. Abyss was bought here due to one reason, fans would not shut up. Namco was more giving back then but now no matter how much begging, we will not get jack shit from them no matter how much we beg or cry about it. All of that fans not shutting up did make it worth while as Abyss was a breath of fresh air after the abysmal Legendia.
ok, rant over

Both of those games are by small time Japanese developers and localized by Atlus or NIS, the only two North American publishers who will touch games like these. There's no way a big developer/publisher like Namco is going to let Atlus or NIS handle their own game.

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#65 May 12, 2008, 11:39:17 pm

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Quote from: Rowain on May 12, 2008, 11:33:51 pm

Both of those games are by small time Japanese developers and localized by Atlus or NIS, the only two North American publishers who will touch games like these. There's no way a big developer/publisher like Namco is going to let Atlus or NIS handle their own game.

i never said that :P

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#66 May 13, 2008, 12:22:04 am

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I haven't tried the PSP Tales games, I'll have to play them sometime.

they're terrible and have bad dungeons and lame controls. and also awful voice acting, characters, and story. soooo maybe that's not such a good idea.

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Quote from: headphonics on May 13, 2008, 12:22:04 am

they're terrible and have bad dungeons and lame controls. and also awful voice acting, characters, and story. soooo maybe that's not such a good idea.

Tales of the World is ok if our a big Tales fan. Eternia is a PS1 port and its excellent.

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I saw Wiis selling down in countries around Mexico for over 500 American Dollars, and games selling for near 100. Prices change varying the country.

Tales of Symphonia 2 looks like it has potential, but I was really hoping for an upgraded Symphonia graphics game, not a new Abyss. I liked Abyss, but never really like the graphics.

Vespira looks great, I'm glad I got a 360 a while ago.

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#69 May 13, 2008, 03:19:31 am

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Quote from: theHunter on May 13, 2008, 03:06:08 am

Tales of the World is ok if our a big Tales fan. Eternia is a PS1 port and its excellent.

oh there's more than one? tales of the world is a really bad game buuuut if you're a tales fan then i guess you have no taste anyway so yeah it'd be right up your alley! i never played tales of eternia and didn't even know it existed, but knowing the series "excellent" by your standards would probably translate into "tolerable, maybe" by mine so i'll probably pass on that one!

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Quote from: Smoothy Oakland on May 11, 2008, 04:27:43 am
okay, so what's so special about this game? it's battle system looks just like grandia 2, and a lot of other games. and it just looks like generic jap rpg 1,205,423.

It is.

Wait. What the fuck? Are you on meth? Or are you referring to the 'generic Jap rpg'?

Grandia II had an awesesome battle system, and I agree the TOS battle system is
awesome as well.
That said, they have *Nothing* in common. TOS has a freefight battle system, which means
there's no such thing as 'turns'

Grandia uses an Initiative Bar to decide who attacks next. It creates strategy, although
most of the times you don't need to use strategy.

Either way... I don't care what you say about TOS and TOS2, I loved the first one to
death, and I'm buying the second.

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Quote from: headphonics on May 13, 2008, 03:19:31 am

oh there's more than one? tales of the world is a really bad game buuuut if you're a tales fan then i guess you have no taste anyway so yeah it'd be right up your alley! i never played tales of eternia and didn't even know it existed, but knowing the series "excellent" by your standards would probably translate into "tolerable, maybe" by mine so i'll probably pass on that one!

Tales of Eternia was the only Tales game besides Destiny that was good. Symphonia had the dumbest ass story line EVER, and Abyss drug on for too long.

Trust me though, Im not a huge Tales fan either but Eternia was the only one that Ive seen Tales haters actually enjoy.

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#72 May 13, 2008, 02:22:56 pm

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The Tales games are slowly degenerating... Tales of Symphonia 2... I have mixed feelin's about that game, like c'mon... raising monsters? that's the first time they did that, and so late in the game too! ToV, looks interesting, but is it really worth buyin' an Xbox360 for one game? :S

My favorites were Destiny, Eternia, and Abyss, the rest I didn't like as much, (but you have to play the Destiny Remake, godliest game of all time.)

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Quote from: jman00 on May 13, 2008, 02:22:56 pm

The Tales games are slowly degenerating... Tales of Symphonia 2... I have mixed feelin's about that game, like c'mon... raising monsters? that's the first time they did that, and so late in the game too! ToV, looks interesting, but is it really worth buyin' an Xbox360 for one game? :S

My favorites were Destiny, Eternia, and Abyss, the rest I didn't like as much, (but you have to play the Destiny Remake, godliest game of all time.)

Amazingly, you'll find there are in fact OTHER games for the XBOX 360 too. I know it's hard to grasp.

There's even other shitty JRPGs if that's all you like.

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#74 May 13, 2008, 02:32:05 pm

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The only other two games I like for Xbox360 is Halo3 and GTAIV. :P

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#75 May 13, 2008, 02:33:19 pm

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Quote from: Rowain on May 13, 2008, 02:30:08 pm

Amazingly, you'll find there are in fact OTHER games for the XBOX 360 too. I know it's hard to grasp.

There's even other shitty JRPGs if that's all you like.

Theres also shitty games in general for it.

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#76 May 13, 2008, 06:20:07 pm

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As the only person who likes Symphonia I just gotta say this: EGGS!

Ok let's go in order shall we?

Phantasia: It's good but that's about it. The combat is constantly moving you back and forth every swing which get's on my nerves. Oh and the encounter rate is high and the puzzles are annoying with all the enemy encounters.

Destiny (Not the remake): Boy is this one boring. It also features party members that never fight. Your basically doing all the "hard work". But it doesn't matter because the game is crazy easy.

Eternia: It's decent and one of the more challenging game in the series. The combat is a little to slippery for my tastes, though. Not much else to say.

Symphonia: It had a great battle system, so good that i ignored the shit story. It also had some non-linearity in it and alot of features that made the second play through worth it.

Legendia: Good story, average combat. Actually the combat was basically like Phantasia's (just slower) but with no crappy semi-auto combat. But some boss battles last for way too long. Oh yeah, the second part of the game should not be touched until a year of beating the first part.

Abyss: Pretty good, had potential and it had it's moments. But the characters are so damn annoying and there's countless backtracking and lack of enemy variety. Not to mention you fight the same bosses over and over again. The last boss sucks too. And it was way too long.

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Quote from: Katsuya on May 13, 2008, 02:33:19 pm

Theres also shitty games in general for it.

I didn't want to take the console war bait but this doesn't jive with me. The 360 is a bit lacking in exclusives I like, as most of the best games are also on PC or PS3, but it is still a very attractive console to me. It's got the best RPGs for this generation so far (Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect both appeal to me) and some very strong action and shooting games. Again though, like four of the five games I'd be most interested in are also available on PS3 or PC.

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#78 May 13, 2008, 11:57:08 pm

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Quote from: Katsuya on May 13, 2008, 02:33:19 pm

Theres also shitty games in general for it.

the same could be said about every console in history because, you know, bad games outnumber good games on anything.

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#79 May 14, 2008, 01:35:29 am

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Yeah Id only grab a 360 for a couple of games but they would have to be damn good and exclusive to the console, cause I feel bad that I drop alot of money when a console comes out only to find the corresponding game released on like 3 other systems =\

Not saying the 360 is bad, just not many games appealing on it yet (but hey I baught a Wii so I cant talk.)

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