I honestly have a hard time relating to people who would rather go to college to study business managment instead of being an artist

well tophue the thing is that studying buisness management prolly lands a comfy job while being an art faggot condemns you to work as a barista forever. besides i dont think you have to GET AN ART MAJOR to be creative and indulge yourself in arts. the thing is not 2+2 you know. Faulkner was almost completely self-taught.

i generally dislike art students but i dont dislike the idea of someone dedicating themselves to the arts. in fact if i had a bunch of money i would just dick around, learn, and create. i think happiness is a very important thing, and the whole worthless protestant work ethic of WORK WORK WORK or in the other side, self-martyrdom for the sake of others, are ridicolous things that should be discouraged.

Marmot pretty much.

Tophue, the life of the artist seems more of a gamble and not as safe as that of business management which is one of the most asshole mayors one can get.

as long as you don't become fred durst i think you are okay

I honestly have a hard time relating to people who would rather go to college to study business managment instead of being an artist

I agree with this. But it's mostly my fault.

I think you're find Couch. As long as you find that balance of music for people's entertainment/whatever and the music you do for art's sake.

What are insurance sales persons doing for the world?
What are lawyers doing for the world?
What are plastic surgeons doing for the world?
What are business men doing for the world? (I have no idea what they do either but they have a lot of money)
What are theologists doing for the world?

Musicians are entertaining everyone and making their lifes not so boring and other things too.

man y'all got family, I'm sure they aren't all wandering troubadours. what's this I CAN'T RELATE stuff, these are people for whom money is a concern, and not just like "oh gotta make rent" but more "oh god I am going into MASSIVE DEBT REALLY FAST" or "FUCK I'M NOT GOING TO BE POOR LIKE MY FAMILY".

like I'd like nothing more than to relax on my worthless degree and just write a book occasionally but we can't afford that shit. not everyone can be happy just pursuing a degree they might want more than a business one and often pursue that habit in tandem with their career.

then again I can't relate to Republicans so maybe there is some stopgap of understanding.

What are insurance sales persons doing for the world?
What are lawyers doing for the world?
What are plastic surgeons doing for the world?
What are business men doing for the world? (I have no idea what they do either but they have a lot of money)
What are theologists doing for the world?

Musicians are entertaining everyone and making their lifes not so boring and other things too.

oh come on quite a few of these are doing a great deal more for the world than musicians do, and you know it. there's no MORAL OBLIGATION just like there's no moral obligation to tell a fry cook at McDonald's they should be in the Peace Corps but don't compare someone who repairs burnt faces or someone who offers spiritual counsel with a nerd who plays a few notes on a guitar and generally relaxes.

I don't think people would notice any difference if every theologist died right now. If every cosmetic surgeon disappeared nobody would miss bolt on tits and nobody would mind if real doctors fixed cleft lips etc. If every musician disappeared world would become really boring. Period.

ahahaha that's stupid.

religion is pretty big champ, I'm pretty sure you get rid of the entire populace of theology (this would include priests, because I'm sure your definition of musician doesn't mean a degree) the world would devolve into chaos far worse than if every musician died, the least reason of which would be the end times prophecies in most religions promising such a departure. if every plastic surgeon died, no, every doctor couldn't take care of the cleft lips or burn victims, that is why PLASTIC SURGEONS EXIST. and you know there are also some very unattractive people out there and whie I'm sure that's far from helping the world, it's certainly not much better than entertainment as a job consequence.

change it to lawyers or business people and we're talking the effective shutdown of every major world economic and legal system.

great serious discussion with inri cheetos.

ahahaha that's stupid.

religion is pretty big champ, I'm pretty sure you get rid of the entire populace of theology (this would include priests, because I'm sure your definition of musician doesn't mean a degree)  the world would devolve into chaos far worse than if every musician died, the least reason of which would be the end times prophecies in most religions promising such a departure.

No, it would not include priests, theology is just studying religion. You would survive it.

if every plastic surgeon died, no, every doctor couldn't take care of the cleft lips or burn victims, that is why PLASTIC SURGEONS EXIST. and you know there are also some very unattractive people out there and whie I'm sure that's far from helping the world, it's certainly not much better than entertainment as a job consequence.

Do you think it would make a difference to those people in third world countries who grow your food (hint: people need them more than they need plastic surgeons) and don't have any plastic surgeons in the first place? And what most cosmetic surgeons do is just liposuction and breast implants, I'm pretty sure the real doctors would be able to fix cleft lips (which aren't too common) and your burnt face persons (and they're not extremelly common either, and will remain that way unless someone decides to bomb everyone with napalm). In other words, you would survive and as a bonus see a lot less semi-spherical breasts.

change it to lawyers or business people and we're talking the effective shutdown of every major world economic and legal system.

It would just be a change. I think you would survive too.

great serious discussion with inri cheetos.

Thank you.

...people would first of all survive musicans far easier than any of the ones you're talking about (that being the whole CRUX OF THE ARGUMENT dude) and you're kind of stretching theologian as if most of the people who study religion aren't demagogues of the faith themselves.

that and do you have any idea the chaos that would result if suddenly every business person or lawyer disappeared? pretty sure people would DIE in a few of these cases (like someone on death row appealing their case).

christ what a stupid argument. no one has to spend their career helping mankind but there are clear lines and degrees of what someone contributes to the world as far as a career goes, and musician is pretty low on the list unless you achieve Bob Dylan or Bruce Springsten level success.

or Panic at the Disco because then kids will dress like idiots.

Then try living without music for one year and tell me how good it was.

what about deaf people?

gz actually doesn't listen to music ever and he's one of the best programmers and people on GW.

what about deaf people?

I'm pretty sure they would like to listen to it

gz actually doesn't listen to music ever and he's one of the best programmers and people on GW.

He is the minority. Do what I said and tell me what you learned in your journey of self discovery.

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PS: To be honest when I made my first post I wasn't trying to say that the other "professionals are doing nothing for the world" but that even if useless professions such as "theology" are considered "doing something for the world" then I'm pretty sure "dedicating your life to the music" (which is much more entertaining than THEOLOGY) must be considered "doing something for the world" too. This is how to properly interpret that post.

But then there comes "Magical Negro" with his "But other professions are doing more than musicians" (if you thought it was "trolling" you could just have ignored it RIGHT? "do not feed the troll", RIGHT???) and I felt the urge to reply to that because I find that kind of pointless arguing to be entertaining (and apparently "Magical Negro" has the same obsessive compulsive arguing disorder) but I will try really hard to control myself, starting now.

the point is actual effect dude. I'm not going to stop listening to music because I don't want to but you're out of your mind if you think its the same as not going to a lawyer when I NEED to.

how many posts do you have to make before you get warned for trolling and banned because I know a lot of mods are just waiting for you to slip up and you're pretty clearly trolling right now!

inri cheetos is a terrible troll, he isnt funny at all. like, a good troll has some sort of vague point, cheetos is just stupid