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yeah the only time you'd do that is if she never let you do anything and was excessively controlling and bitchy about everything, in which you'd do it just to piss her off but at that point in a relationship an xbox is the least of your worries!
yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?
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Why do you want a XBOX? It's just a bunch of electronic components inside a plastic case. I think you can survive without it.

Sometimes people tell me things that are so absurd I have no idea what to say.

My dad once told me that it's better to be fat because you have more chances of surviving a surgery if you're fat. Then if I try to argue with whatever he says he always say something like this "Who told you this? It's a lie". It's a good thing I don't see him anymore.

My grandmother (my dad's mother) once told me that my tortoise had laid eggs, and that she ate the eggs (it's a male tortoise, so I don't think that happened).

Debates are useless because you're not going to convince anyone of anything.
Play Raimond Ex (if you haven't already)


I'll not TAKE ANYTHING you write like this seriously because it looks dumb
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Why do you want a XBOX? It's just a bunch of electronic components inside a plastic case. I think you can survive without it.

Sometimes people tell me things that are so absurd I have no idea what to say.

My dad once told me that it's better to be fat because you have more chances of surviving a surgery if you're fat. Then if I try to argue with whatever he says he always say something like this "Who told you this? It's a lie". It's a good thing I don't see him anymore.

My grandmother (my dad's mother) once told me that my tortoise had laid eggs, and that she ate the eggs (it's a male tortoise, so I don't think that happened).

Debates are useless because you're not going to convince anyone of anything.

quoted for posterity. why unban drfunk when we have inri?
yes coulombs are "germaine", did you learn that word at talk like a dick school?
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man i would never share funds in marriage. i dont want to deal with shit like that
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yea i'm willing to raise a family and spend the rest of my life with you but get your own shit heh
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She's definitely whipping you man. If you let her walk over you this time, she'll continue to do it... eventually driving you insane - and driving your marriage into the ground. Assert yourself - you have every right to want an Xbox much like she has every right to want a diamond earing (etc). If she can't fathom why you would want to spend YOUR money on YOURSELF, then I'm sorry, you may have ended up in a relationship that won't last.

Anyways, think things through. Also haha read these:

http://www.dont-marry.com/
http://www.nomarriage.com/ (not quite as useful)

Yes they're biased but they're the side of the argument many people never hear. There's some good information in there which can be used to make your marriage last.
Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 08:28:50 pm by Mr Epic Hero
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yea i'm willing to raise a family and spend the rest of my life with you but get your own shit heh

except that i am not a stupid catholic and i think there is always the possibility of divorce "heh"
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except that i am not a stupid catholic and i think there is always the possibility of divorce "heh"
Yes, THIS. Read those links I posted. This is pointed out and elaborated on.
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except that i am not a stupid catholic and i think there is always the possibility of divorce "heh"
wait what? this makes no sense dude. you marry someone because you want to spend the rest of your life with them. that's the sentiment you should feel before even considering getting married. if you say "well i can always divorce you so yeah lets get married fuck it!" then you are fucked up dude and i hope no woman ever has the misfortune of marrying you.
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No, he's saying that he isn't naive and KNOWS that a divorce might just happen one day (most marriages don't work out FYI) and he doesn't want her getting all his shit.
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I think Marmot is a girl. I could be wrong but pretty sure????




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Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 08:56:27 pm by Afura
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oh my afura
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except that i am not a stupid catholic and i think there is always the possibility of divorce "heh"
fffff what the fuck are you talking about marmot nobody even mentioned catholics.  this is why you're annoying, man; you seriously cannot post without dragging that shit into the topic, ALWAYS.  nobody said not to recognize the possibility of divorce, but rather, that you probably shouldn't be getting married if you're opposed to SHARING THINGS because that's kind of the entire fucking point, and if you're going into a marriage thinking "prolly gonna get a divorce heh FUCK CATHOLICS and also she can get her own goddamn job" then it's probably doomed from the start.  i understand not assuming you're absolutely definitely going to spend the rest of your life with someone, but yeah very few marriages will ever work like that, sorry!  whether you acknowledge the possibility of divorce or not, the idea at the time of the marriage should be that you want to be with them forever, not that you're just waiting until you get tired of them and then *divorce*

hahaha oh wait i forgot only stupid catholics want to raise families or to have lasting marriages sorry marmot my mistake
Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 08:51:51 pm by headphonics
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i wonder how this topic would have gone if it was phrased a little differently:

my pregnant wife doesn't want me to spend money on a 360, she is very irrational
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Maybe I'm not matured enough to give advice.. But maybe try give and return..

Like give her gifts regularly, take her out, etc.
Then give hher hints that you also like xbox as a gift. maybe on a xmas day, or your birthday.
But try not to sound too obvious..
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Seriously though, having a girl dominate you so you can't do anything is the worst. I've had it happen to me and you definitely start to hold a secret grudge against them which is pretty bad for a relationship!
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i wonder how this topic would have gone if it was phrased a little differently:

my pregnant wife doesn't want me to spend money on a 360, she is very irrational
except that's not the point at all since her not wanting him to get the 360 isn't the even remotely the problem or the subject of the topic


climbtree why do you make posts like this??
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fffff what the fuck are you talking about marmot nobody even mentioned catholics.  this is why you're annoying, man; you seriously cannot post without dragging that shit into the topic, ALWAYS.  nobody said not to recognize the possibility of divorce, but rather, that you probably shouldn't be getting married if you're opposed to SHARING THINGS because that's kind of the entire fucking point, and if you're going into a marriage thinking "prolly gonna get a divorce heh FUCK CATHOLICS and also she can get her own goddamn job" then it's probably doomed from the start.  i understand not assuming you're absolutely definitely going to spend the rest of your life with someone, but yeah very few marriages will ever work like that, sorry!  whether you acknowledge the possibility of divorce or not, the idea at the time of the marriage should be that you want to be with them forever, not that you're just waiting until you get tired of them and then *divorce*

hahaha oh wait i forgot only stupid catholics want to raise families or to have lasting marriages sorry marmot my mistake

it was a somewhat of a jokereply  because you were being a humoungous douchebag with your provocative sarcastic post.

Anyway, it has to do with everything because the concept of marriage as we generally perceive it in the west is deeply rooted in the judeo-christian tradition. The whole nonsense that DIVORCE IS IMPOSSIBLE/HUGE MISTAKE is part of that asinine ceralbox morality. So sorry, yeah it has everything to do with it. Not everyone marries for the same reasons, some people that marry do it because they love each other and marriage gives you some tax-breaks and other social advantages. My parents do not have shared funds and we are doing pretty OK so fuck you.

I dont have a goddamn crystal ball and I can't never know if everything is going to hell in the long road. I might as well take some precautions!
Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 09:54:52 pm by Marmot
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I mean it was a sarcastic reply because a person who doesn't want to "deal with that shit" probably isn't even ready for marriage to begin with.  It was a ridiculous post to make.

Anyway, you didn't even explain how divorce really related to what people were saying.  No one in the topic was even talking about divorce not being an option, or acting as if marriage needs to be this huge, romantic endeavor; we were saying that the point is KIND OF a unification of your lives so not wanting to share your funds or whatever comes off as pretty self-serving and immature, two qualities that probably play large roles in ruining most relationship.  You're saying that there are other reasons to marry, and there are, but none of the things you said preclude going into it with a commitment to the relationship and the assumption that it's going to last (this doesn't mean you shouldn't take precautions, though).  So no, it doesn't have anything to do with it at all because the things we are talking about aren't exclusive to judeo-christian tradition in the least.

You always come into topics relating to this stuff with the same tiresome ideas and statements, and it's not even as if they're wrong or misinformed or anything, it's just it's you are very one-note in the way you do things.  It's like you're just looking for a chance to rail against capitalism/religion/whatever else you hate.


btw if you could tie some marxist theory into this then that'd be just great
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The whole nonsense that DIVORCE IS IMPOSSIBLE/HUGE MISTAKE is part of that asinine ceralbox morality.

Morality? Heh, do you really want to get in to morality?

Law, morality, religion, are to him so many bourgeois prejudices, behind which lurk in ambush just as many bourgeois interests.

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