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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#501 June 05, 2008, 01:15:25 am

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I do all this already though! that's kidn o

whoa just had a headrush.

but yeah I do this shit pretty constantly. I mean, if I get through this, my plans aren't changing, I'm planning on working in some of the lowest paying law just to help people. it's really my shtick!

I'm far from Mother Theresa but you know I volunteer at soup kitchens, all that stuff. I try and be a genuinely nice person and help people and all that. that's kind of why I'm not so much GOTTA...MAKE MY LIFE COUNT. I've always had that plan!

man I'm kind of glad I don't have faith because I'd be really fucking bitter huh.

Quote from: Trujiro on June 05, 2008, 01:11:10 am

this maybe a weird or inappropriate question and if it is, i apologize, but have you begun to doubt atheism in any way since finding out? as in, what if i was wrong or anything? i know someone who basically converted christianity, and became very religious during the chemo. i dunno, i guess they felt better safe than sorry or something.

I know this isn't how it works but I basically said before the diagnosis OKAY GOD IF YOU ARE THERE YOU GET THIS ONE CHANCE. YOU MAKE THIS NOT CANCER, I'LL LOOK FOR YOU AND I WON'T STOP UNTIL I'M SURE I'VE EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBILITY OR FOUND YOU. IF YOU FUCK ME, I MEAN, WELLLLLL YOU AINT BEEN DOING MUCH FOR ME LATELY.

so that's how that panned out!

Quote from: NinjaPirate on June 05, 2008, 01:13:15 am

wait isnt girlbones generally pretty pissed and bitter (2 many druges)

smoke weed all day....ANGER weed

yeah I meant the chillaxed way oh well still a good adjective.

img onna eat a pasta furiously.

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headphonics

#502 June 05, 2008, 01:17:17 am

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i don't really think there's much danger of conversion. i mean, there's not really anything about the chemo experience that should cast any of the fundamental atheist beliefs or whatever into doubt! like, people get cancer and go into chemo all the time so i do not really see the correlation between that and god. i could see him being afraid like FUUUCK what if go to hell, but considering i think the main three sort of condemn each other, there's a risk of that happening anyway! and also idk about his family but i imagine there's at least a chance if he was religious it would be HINDUISM and i'm not sure the same things apply there. like, whether he believes or not might not factor into what would happen to him at all so yeah.

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Feldschlacht IV

#503 June 05, 2008, 01:19:55 am

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Quote from: Magical Negro on June 05, 2008, 01:15:25 am

I do all this already though! that's kidn o

whoa just had a headrush.

but yeah I do this shit pretty constantly. I mean, if I get through this, my plans aren't changing, I'm planning on working in some of the lowest paying law just to help people. it's really my shtick!

I'm far from Mother Theresa but you know I volunteer at soup kitchens, all that stuff. I try and be a genuinely nice person and help people and all that. that's kind of why I'm not so much GOTTA...MAKE MY LIFE COUNT. I've always had that plan!

Okay, I see what you mean now. A lot of people who've been in situations such as this tend to come to the conclusion that they live really shitty lives, and so they basically make a 180 degree turn in pretty much every flaw they feel they have. But I see what you mean now.

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I know this isn't how it works but I basically said before the diagnosis OKAY GOD IF YOU ARE THERE YOU GET THIS ONE CHANCE. YOU MAKE THIS NOT CANCER, I'LL LOOK FOR YOU AND I WON'T STOP UNTIL I'M SURE I'VE EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBILITY OR FOUND YOU. IF YOU FUCK ME, I MEAN, WELLLLLL YOU AINT BEEN DOING MUCH FOR ME LATELY.

so that's how that panned out!

I actually wondered this too. It will be interesting looking back on this sentiment once you make it through.

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EDIT: ugh mog you're not helping or convincing anyone, just stop.

Shut the fuck up, ok? Thanks.

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jamie

#504 June 05, 2008, 01:21:13 am

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sorry steel, i love you, and the impression i meant to leave was this:

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#505 June 05, 2008, 01:41:51 am

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so got some good news; I don't have to worry about the bone scan. I mean, it's gonna suck NEEDLES etc but even if it's in my bones it won't matter much. also the back pain is almost certainly a spasm, being on the opposite end of the mass, and apparently the type of chemo I'm on has few symptoms for under 50 year olds and my white cell count might not even drop so I can do shit.

bad news is tomorrow needles and cat scan shit which is just not fun.

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Farren

#506 June 05, 2008, 01:46:28 am

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you know how big the needles are gonna be?

that shit doesn't usually bother me but I've heard if you get something to distract your attention it helps, I'd specifically ask for a hot ass nurse.

on another note when I fell and busted by head on that ship the medic on board gave me like ten shot locals in the fucking head all for one stitch and I would have just taken the fukcing stitch if I knew I'd have to go through that shit

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE<br />DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS<br />PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES<br />DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#507 June 05, 2008, 01:50:20 am

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its a tiny butterfly for IV.

unfortunately I am an enormous pussy when it comes to needles and IVs especially nauseate me (I threw up when they put it in before) but I will have to get used to them huh!

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ThugTears666

#508 June 05, 2008, 01:52:21 am

You probally thought you werent gunna die today suprise!
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Me too man, I FUCKING hate needles. I pretty much turn away every single time I see them in movies.

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Lars

#509 June 05, 2008, 02:17:42 am

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Man MOG, I've never had anything against you or spoken out against you even though a lot of people seem to hate you, but holy fucking shit you need to bring your agenda out of here and stop being a prick. Like seriously. I am starting to strongly dislike you just for this post and it really is disgusting to read your shit. Even mkkympet is being WAY more mature than you are so just stop. Seriously.

I'm pretty sure there's a handful of other people that want to get in here and say something of the likes "HOPE YOU LEARN YOUR LESSON STEEL" or "YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED" etc like a petty fucking bastard without no decensy at all, but get what, they actually DO have that decensy which makes me pretty surprised that you of all people should go ranting about this shit when some of the worst scum on GW that are strong Steel-haters somehow manages to stay the fuck away.

I strongly advice you to stop posting your agendas here because otherwise you'll find yourself one of the most disliked members on here pretty fucking fast.

Besides, trying to give Steel some moral obligation that he should enjoy life for every breath he has or consider how he can change for his better when he's in the starting phase of what will be the toughest path he'll ever walk down is just wrong. He's the one that has to struggle, not you, you don't get to tell him shit about how he should respond to this.

This is Steel's thing and he's dealing with this as a hero and he makes all of us proud and even yet you come here with your shit god damnit you made me really angry IRL rite now I have to blow some steam off...

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#510 June 05, 2008, 02:20:42 am

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hey its okay dogg calm down. honestly I prefer these kinds of things, like I said. GW kind of serves as a catharsis for me a lot, and honestly while I haven't freaked out apparently my body is really stressed and yeah it's inconsiderate to be like STEEL...HINT HINT MAYBE but it keeps my mind off shit!

appreciated though.

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#511 June 05, 2008, 02:27:55 am

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I'm extremely sorry to hear this. You've been around here forever, and you've always had some interesting arguments. You should definitely be able to get through this, though, because you're a strong person. I wrote a lot of motivational stuff when I edited this five million times before posting, but I guess you've probably already read a lot of similar things in this topic. I will say that if you ever need someone to talk to or just listen to you, your friends and family in real life will be there, and that many of GW's members are there, too. I guess an internet gaming forum doesn't seem like much, though.

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#512 June 05, 2008, 02:31:27 am

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Quote from: Lars on June 05, 2008, 02:17:42 am

Man MOG, I've never had anything against you or spoken out against you even though a lot of people seem to hate you, but holy fucking shit you need to bring your agenda out of here and stop being a prick. Like seriously. I am starting to strongly dislike you just for this post and it really is disgusting to read your shit. Even mkkympet is being WAY more mature than you are so just stop. Seriously.

I'm pretty sure there's a handful of other people that want to get in here and say something of the likes "HOPE YOU LEARN YOUR LESSON STEEL" or "YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED" etc like a petty fucking bastard without no decensy at all, but get what, they actually DO have that decensy which makes me pretty surprised that you of all people should go ranting about this shit when some of the worst scum on GW that are strong Steel-haters somehow manages to stay the fuck away.

I strongly advice you to stop posting your agendas here because otherwise you'll find yourself one of the most disliked members on here pretty fucking fast.

Besides, trying to give Steel some moral obligation that he should enjoy life for every breath he has or consider how he can change for his better when he's in the starting phase of what will be the toughest path he'll ever walk down is just wrong. He's the one that has to struggle, not you, you don't get to tell him shit about how he should respond to this.

This is Steel's thing and he's dealing with this as a hero and he makes all of us proud and even yet you come here with your shit god damnit you made me really angry IRL rite now I have to blow some steam off...

You missed the entire point of what I was saying entirely. Way to go. I suggest sitting down in the corner and thinking very hard until you reach the enlightened state of possessing reading comprehension because you missed the entire point of my post. Sit down somewhere and cool off before you fucking blow a gasket or some shit.

I'm not giving steel a moral obligation to do shit. I'm just posting my opinion of something he can do like everyone else here. If it goes against the grain of what everyone else thinks, so the fuck what; I mean no malice or harm about it. I'm not POSTING MY AGENDA or what the fuck ever, I'm giving him a viewpoint and advice that he can take or leave like anything else. In fact, I wouldn't think any less of him if he went "FUCK YOU MOG I AIN'T DOIN' THAT SHIT". It's just an option that he can take, or he can do things his own way which absolutely no one can blame him for.

You have TwoBeers who basically told him to fuck off, you have Doktor who told him to eat dandelions or some shit, and then of course you have the rest of GW that's giving him genuine advice and whatnot, and when I come along and tell him that I think it would be a good idea if he took this opportunity to reassess himself and enjoy life, I catch heat for it? Fuck that. I gave him my reasonable two cents and advice like everyone else, and if you think what I had to say was fundamentally worse than anyone else here, you can go fuck yourself.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#513 June 05, 2008, 02:35:52 am

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you're catching heat for it because the implication is I need to reassess myself to begin with and it's kind of clear you're dropping a big ole HINT HINT...MAYBEY OU WANNA STOP BEING A DICK TO ME HMMMMM when really I mean uh...you don't know me dude. I don't even mean know me like YOU DONT KNOW MY HUSTLE but we've never even had a conversation. what are you basing this whole REASSESS YOUR LIFE thing on if not incredibly limited interaction?

so yeaaaah I don't really blame people for thinking you're being kind of a judgmental prick when you are!

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#514 June 05, 2008, 02:36:50 am

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I actually don't want you to leave this forum Mog even though it's pretty clear where your forum agenda lies (rpgmaker) but I THINK you really need to chill out, this is a forum people criticize each other and post opinions daily. I have at least one person say something about me every week or so and I'm pretty sure almost everyone does. I think the assumptions me and Lars made are pretty easy assumptions to make so relaxxx. Just because we arent all hugging and shit doesn't make us elitist.

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#515 June 05, 2008, 02:41:43 am

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Quote from: Magical Negro on June 05, 2008, 02:35:52 am

you're catching heat for it because the implication is I need to reassess myself to begin with and it's kind of clear you're dropping a big ole HINT HINT...MAYBEY OU WANNA STOP BEING A DICK TO ME HMMMMM when really I mean uh...you don't know me dude. I don't even mean know me like YOU DONT KNOW MY HUSTLE but we've never even had a conversation. what are you basing this whole REASSESS YOUR LIFE thing on if not incredibly limited interaction?

so yeaaaah I don't really blame people for thinking you're being kind of a judgmental prick when you are!

I already addressed this. First of all, like I said before my statements have nothing to do with how you act over the internet or HOW MEAN YOU ARE WAH WAH. I clarified this already in case someone wants to bring it up again. Like I said before, I believe in constant self reflection and self improvement. There's always room to be better and there's always room to be a better person than you were yesterday. Always strive to be better than you are. I figure a lot of people here don't believe in such a gay sounding mantra but hey that's just me, like I said, take it or leave it, no one's forcing my moral obligation on anyone. I don't do that passive aggressive "maybe he'll stop being so mean if i tell him this...". I said what I said and I meant what I meant.

I'd tell exactly what I told you to anyone. Why does telling someone they can always improve themselves mean they're being a judgmental prick? Shit's ridiculous.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#516 June 05, 2008, 02:45:13 am

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well maybe you really shouldn't say it to just anyone! you don't KNOW me dude. like...can you even name any facts about me that aren't HE YELLS AT PEOPLE ON GW? we're not talking about much here, but I don't think you even have that! it's pretty insulting to be like MAKE SURE TO BE A BETTER PERSON when you have no idea what kind of person I am!

you don't see that as the slightest bit insulting, and that it's very easy to reach the conclusion you're only saying it because I've been an ass to you? if not then maybe there's just an impasse here and you don't get it buttttt in the future yeah it's kind of insulting and you shouldn't say it so keep that in mind if nothing else?

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#517 June 05, 2008, 02:49:15 am

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So you're saying I have to personally know you to suggest for you to be a better person and enjoy life? As if there's a possibility that you're a perfect human being and I just don't know it because I don't know you personally? What kind of assbackwards logic is that? Telling someone to enjoy life and to improve themselves is general advice that can and does apply to everyone. Even more so to you, because let's drop the bullshit; you could be dying. Like I said, it's hardly advice that you need to know someone before you give it; it's pretty general!

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#518 June 05, 2008, 02:56:23 am

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its kind of insulting dude don't you see that. like, I know you meant well but yeah you don't really get to tell just ANYONE "make your life better". aside from being kind of a hokey sentiment (why do I need to use cancer to make my life better again?) it's a little irritating. I mean, if I was some sixty year old guy, you wouldn't say this.

basically I have no idea what some vague "be a better person" shit could mean and it could be clearly minimal or I'm working on it already, at least in my opinion, so to suggest there's some massive character flaw in me that I should fix, yeah, it's kind of a dick thing to say! do you really not follow this train of thought? people are overreacting (badly because of the context but w/e) but it's not too much of a stretch man.

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headphonics

#519 June 05, 2008, 02:58:37 am

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fuuuuuck okay guys shut the hell up already

You're all going apeshit on Mog and I am COMPLETELY NEUTRAL towards him so I think I'm pretty unbiased here when I say you're overreacting. The issue is that he doesn't really know Steel all that much, but at the same time, I think this is something of a double standard because we all make a habit of judging people we've had virtually no personal interaction with based solely on forum posts (WIP). We all say things based on the impressions we get of people, and those are in turn based on the actions we see. Mog doesn't know Steel, but most of us don't really know anyone on here and that doesn't stop us from offering advice, especially when it's more or less said with good intentions, and especially when the advice, which essentially amounts to "don't just survive, use this as an opportunity to legitimately better yourself", doesn't really require knowing the person. It's a relatively benign thing to say, and I think don't think it's worth getting offended over when it's not bad advice and the person meant well.

You're all treating it as if he said HEH THAT'LL LEARN YA MAYBE NOW YOU WON'T BE SUCH A DICK, and while it's easy to misconstrue what he's saying that way, I don't think he's trying to be malicious at all. I think what he's trying to say is that NO ONE'S PERFECT that that hopefully Steel will use this opportunity not only to not only survive, but put his life in perspective, and hopefully come out the other end minus a few flaws that he absolutely has as a result.

Is that so bad? Not really, but kind of! I think had someone who knows Steel well said it, it would've been fine, but it's like making weird borderline offensive jokes with someone you hardly know; it's not really your place to say this kind of thing Mog and I think it easily comes off as something else so this is poor phrasing/just speaking out of turn on your part. But uh, I don't really think it's that big of a deal, and I'm sort of glad that he actually put in the time to make a thoughtful post instead of saying THAT SUX GET BETTER :/// like 90% of the people in this topic, so yeah get off his dick.

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Artis Leon Ivey Jr

#520 June 05, 2008, 02:59:59 am

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isn't dickriding what you do when you approve?

I think you mean get off his ass.

just some Info From Me To You.

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