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HL

#141 June 12, 2008, 12:34:01 pm

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Quote from: Fujin on June 12, 2008, 12:32:47 pm

Guess you didn't notice the Raiden part.

uh? they've shown Raiden for the longest time now. He's been in pretty much every preview. sooo ????

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#142 June 12, 2008, 12:39:01 pm

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Quote from: Fujin on June 12, 2008, 12:32:47 pm

Guess you didn't notice the Raiden part.

You mean Raiden stabbing himself? That was in like... the second official trailer which came out in 2006.

I'm back with the game, managed to play it for 30 minutes (skipped all the fucking cutscenes) but I've got to go to work soon. Quick opinion, the game is basically Metal Gears of War. There, I said it. The stealth and action are about as akin to MGS as GRAW is to the original Ghost Recon. Stealth is still "kinda" important but with the addition of over-the-shoulder (I.E. Resident Evil 4 controls + strafe) aiming and tons more aggressive guards, the game is mostly a run and gun action game with some sneaking involved to set up ambushes and stuff.

But honestly, it's not a bad thing. At least, not as far as I'm concerned. The controls are wonkier than GTA4's but to me, Metal Gear has had way too many fights to incorporate the lame control schemes it had in previous games. It's nice to actually be able to dive for cover and properly shoot enemies without going into first person view then immediately switching out.

Full scathing review later.

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#143 June 12, 2008, 12:42:20 pm

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Ah, okay then. Sorry. I haven't been catching up with the previews since the first gameplay video came out. So nevermind.

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HL

#144 June 12, 2008, 12:50:22 pm

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I'm back with the game, managed to play it for 30 minutes (skipped all the fucking cutscenes) but I've got to go to work soon. Quick opinion, the game is basically Metal Gears of War. There, I said it. The stealth and action are about as akin to MGS as GRAW is to the original Ghost Recon. Stealth is still "kinda" important but with the addition of over-the-shoulder (I.E. Resident Evil 4 controls + strafe) aiming and tons more aggressive guards, the game is mostly a run and gun action game with some sneaking involved to set up ambushes and stuff.

The Middle East part is way more fighting than stealth iirc.

EDIT:
Also it only has a 4.6GB install size, abm.

Last Edit: June 12, 2008, 02:13:26 pm by handsome lamb

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Marcus

#145 June 12, 2008, 03:01:09 pm

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I enjoy the pseudo stealth. Reminds me of the latest Splinter Cell although the game feels like Resident Evil 4.

Take it for what you will but Drebin is basically the merchant except he has a personality and a pet monkey. As far as the install goes, it's 4.6gb all around but the game installs itself after every act so if you want to reload a different act you have to spend 10 minutes watching Snake drag on his cig.

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#146 June 12, 2008, 04:06:02 pm

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Quote from: DragonSlayer on June 12, 2008, 01:20:53 am

Waaaaaaaaait? Are you sure about the rumble thing? I always thought sixaxis just doesn't have a rumble feature and Dual Shock 3 has rumble and it's coming out in Europe too. I wasn't aware it has anything to do with the 40GB version. Unless you mean that it comes with sixaxis.

also, 2 USB ports instead of two...? You mean four or?

I have always wondered how exactly do you use 7 controllers with PS3 anyway. D:

What I ment buy the rumble thing is that in the US the 40GB comes with a Sixaxis which has no rumble and the 80 comes with a DS3 which does.

And yeah two instead of four. And also there are some games like that support all 7 players but theyre sports games.

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#147 June 12, 2008, 07:36:20 pm

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Oh by the way, MGO does come with the game, doesn't it?

...doesn't it?

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#148 June 12, 2008, 08:01:53 pm

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Quote from: Mr. L on June 12, 2008, 07:36:20 pm

Oh by the way, MGO does come with the game, doesn't it?

...doesn't it?

Yeah its there. They were originally gonna make it separate... which would've been stupid.

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#149 June 12, 2008, 08:06:51 pm

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Why has nobody even said a word about it? It deserves some spotlight.

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Fujin

#150 June 12, 2008, 08:19:09 pm

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Great. I got the game but no console D:

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#151 June 12, 2008, 08:21:49 pm

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...Why did you do that?

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#152 June 12, 2008, 09:01:18 pm

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I got a signed copy of the game and the limited edition. Just played 3 hours straight, greatest game I've played in a very very long time. Seriously this shit is da BOMB christ.

EDIT:
Man that title screen alone is HOLY SHIT.

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#153 June 12, 2008, 09:46:16 pm

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I think the gameplay (like hitting triangle to wallhug etc.) could be a bit more precise but other than that, I don't really have any other complaints. It's a bit funny how someone mentions something and then Snake goes "The Patriots??" and I have no clue what the fuck is going on and then there's this la li lu le lo shit or whatever and FUCK YOU MGS. Maybe one day I'll actually replay the first two MGS games and finish third one. But anyway, it's pretty great so far and the graphics are fantastic and the game actually feels like a real war zone and there are tons of stuff happening on the screen and the effects are very nice. Cutscenes are just as good as you'd expect them to be. I'm also loving the music.

I agree with Marcus about the whole pseudo-stealth thing, it's pretty refreshing too. I think at first the game feels pretty overwhelming because you are thrown in middle of some highly interactive game world and introduced to a lot of gameplay elements and I seriously couldn't tell what the hell was going on and just kept shooting everything what moved or trying to avoid combat.

Last Edit: June 12, 2008, 09:48:18 pm by DragonSlayer

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#154 June 13, 2008, 12:08:59 am

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Quote from: Marcus on June 12, 2008, 03:01:09 pm

I enjoy the pseudo stealth. Reminds me of the latest Splinter Cell although the game feels like Resident Evil 4.

Take it for what you will but Drebin is basically the merchant except he has a personality and a pet monkey. As far as the install goes, it's 4.6gb all around but the game installs itself after every act so if you want to reload a different act you have to spend 10 minutes watching Snake drag on his cig.

I want a little clarification on the install. Does it install 4.6 gigs for every install or is each act just a portion of that, like 1.2 gigs for the first one and another 1.2 gigs once you get to the next act(and the game deletes the first act install as well?)?

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zachiroth

#155 June 13, 2008, 12:27:53 am

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Best. Game. Ever.

10/10

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#156 June 13, 2008, 01:21:25 am

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Quote from: Dead Phoenix on June 13, 2008, 12:08:59 am

I want a little clarification on the install. Does it install 4.6 gigs for every install or is each act just a portion of that, like 1.2 gigs for the first one and another 1.2 gigs once you get to the next act(and the game deletes the first act install as well?)?

4.6 total.

yes 1.2 gigs per act roughly.

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#157 June 13, 2008, 01:48:55 am

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Quote from: Mr. L on June 12, 2008, 08:06:51 pm

Why has nobody even said a word about it? It deserves some spotlight.

IGN Mentions it... and yeah they gave it a 10.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/881/881472p5.html

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Warlin

#158 June 13, 2008, 05:02:51 am

I did ok on this one but his feet are kinda wierd!
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I just got MGS4 today... at 6:15 AM. In any case, I popped it in today and... my god. There are alot of overhyped games but MGS4 is everything I had hoped it would be. Well the story is kinda weird, but interesting. I've already spent an hour just dicking off.

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#159 June 13, 2008, 05:17:42 am

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Well, I'm probably almost done with act 3 and some more opinions:

Okay, the story makes sense and there have been some okay twists but seriously, it does feel a bit forced which is a shame. It sucks that they are bringing back pretty much every possible character and that's the main reason why the story can seem a bit too much to swallow, even though they have done a pretty good job at tieing many of the loose ends. For example, when Raiden suddenly contacts you on codec and compared to MGS2, seems to act completely out-of-character, it was obvious they just added him for the fanservice. I gotta admit Raiden vs Vamp is one of the most awesome game cutscenes I have seen though.

Also, it's not just act one, MGS4 has much larger focus on action than any other game in the series. I'm sure you can beat the game by sneaking around but everything from the environments to the action oriented controls make it play like an action game with some stealth elements. That isn't a bad thing though, because it's one great action game, but if you are expecting another game very similar to MGS1 or 2, you might be disappointed. I kinda miss Shadow Moses and Big Shell and I would have loved to see another place like those two, but MGS4's gameplay is easily the best in the series and I loved the first two acts so I'm not really disappointed or anything.

Too early to say if this is the best MGS for me but I can definitely see why people would say that.

Also, Laughing Octopus or w/e was a great boss fight.

Last Edit: June 13, 2008, 05:21:09 am by DragonSlayer

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#160 June 13, 2008, 05:21:43 am

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I kinda miss Shadow Moses and Big Shell and I would have loved to see another place like those two, but MGS4's gameplay is easily the best in the series and I loved the first two scenarios.

Not much of a big spoiler DS but heh...

You get to go back to Shadow Moses.. . .. . .

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