The Official Metal Gear Solid 4 Topic (remember spoiler tags ppl)

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#361 July 05, 2008, 07:05:53 pm

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Quote from: Ax_Dude on July 05, 2008, 09:28:27 am

I got Stealth and bandana my second playthrough.
Seriously. No Alerts is easy. The Hardest was ACT4 because you cant tranq robots and the gekko's seem to see you when chaf is going off.

you know ax dude one thing i have always wanted to ask is that why do you keep capitalizing random words, you have been doing this for years and it's just really weird.

other than thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat i suppose some of us are just inferior gamer's.......

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#362 July 10, 2008, 12:29:10 am

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It is now time to buy the PS3 because this game is finally out!

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Ax_Dude

#363 July 10, 2008, 10:24:04 am

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Quote from: DragonSlayer on July 05, 2008, 07:05:53 pm

you know ax dude one thing i have always wanted to ask is that why do you keep capitalizing random words, you have been doing this for years and it's just really weird.

other than thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat i suppose some of us are just inferior gamer's.......

I swear you've asked me it before, and i suppose its time i tell you the real reason. See as a Fun little side game i go through Ultimately every post i post, and i put hidden words in the letters in upper Case. Keeps You guessing, Or some may Unconsciously Decode Said posts and have this strange thought in their heads.

In all honesty i dont know, its a habit, like I'm Shift key trigger happy or something or i feel words need that Little extra emphasis or something. Who knows. Apparently i did it in English class too with written essays.

As for the inferior gamers, maybe, i seem to have a knack for gaming that wont go away even when i dont touch a console or pc for afew months, give me a half hour and i end up kicking everyones ass when someone pulls out a multiplayer game at a party. Or maybe its because i can hold my booze more than they can

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Zohaib

#364 July 14, 2008, 05:08:57 am

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Bought a PS3 for this as MGS remains the only series that I'm still attached to. Beat it the other day and feel a little disappointed. Probably because I had high expectations but also because the game, in my opinion, had a few too many flaws.

First of all the entire "Act" division of the game didn't work in my eyes. It didn't seam or flow too well as past MGS' and forced a very straight forward and linear approach to the entire game design.

The bosses were terrible - at least compared to what I've come to expect from past MGS Boss battles. Not to mention the stupid and repetitive back stories comprising the end of each. It felt like they just threw it in at the last second.

The story as a whole just wasn't good narrative. There was too much nonsense to be honest. The game could've ended soon after shadow moses and would've been for the better. The epilogue with Big Boss was just unbelievable. I couldn't believe Hideo threw that in. I mean come on! His clone was killed!? What kind of twist is that? Also the Patriots lost their aura. In MGS2 - they were portrayed as some eery, mysterious all knowing Gods but were degraded to nerds with a lot of time in MGS4. Furthermore, the numerous and interesting Codec moments from past MGS games are close to nonexistent here.

And then the whole Drebin thing. Unlike past MGS, you no longer have to search for ammo or explore terrain to find new weapons but simply buy it from this gun launderer. Sorry but that's just not MGS.

Yes, this is still the best game I've played for some time but also the most disappointing. I don't play too many games but MGS is something I follow very closely. MGS4 has stellar visuals and art direction, sweet game play for the little that is present, and great cut-scenes but somehow doesn't feel quite like MGS...

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#365 July 14, 2008, 05:12:31 am

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Zohaib you got everything spot on. This is exactly how myself and many others feel. Too bad metalgearsolid.org is cluttered with idiots who cried at the ending and call all the mods who say the game sucks elitist haters.

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Ragnar

#366 July 14, 2008, 07:12:14 am

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I wonder if it's because Kojima didn't intend to make MGS4... or if it's just like... he never really had it planned out anyway. Like I swear the guy who did the X-Files never had an ending thought up for the X-Files, and just set up all this massive shit like the way horror movie people build up the creature to be so scary - but in this case the Patriots were SO mysterious and like... it's so much easier to create an /air/ of mystery and significance than actually make good on it and make it something that fucking amazing once you see it (I'm sure there's a commentary on religion in there somewhere)

Edit: The show 24 kind of works this way too, they try to make this atmosphere like ANYTHING could happen, or anyone could be behind it all... 24 doesn't have a Patriots but it's been implied there's some mastermind who's going to string all the different plotlines together. But it would have to be someone we know about, really, someone who's already a character on the show - which is sort of like the Major Zero etc. dealie. Who could the Patriots be that would be really shocking - it couldn't just be THAT GUY, it would have to be a previous character in MGS, or aliens or it's all a videogame or maybe some historical people like Meta Abraham Lincoln

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HL

#367 July 14, 2008, 07:38:16 am

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it's both Ragnar. he never intended to make MGS4, MGS3 was supposed to be the last one, and he sorta didn't even intend to make that. He wanted it to stop at MGS1 which is a good reason why MGS2 is so CRAZY. And people still ate it up. He hasn't planned any of these games out since MGS1 basically, but he gets forced to make them because just like MGS4 people actually send him death threats and shit.

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Fujin

#368 July 16, 2008, 02:53:11 pm

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Quote from: HL on July 14, 2008, 07:38:16 am

He wanted it to stop at MGS1

Now that's some bullshit right there. If he wanted to stop it at that, why would he have left clues about a sequel at the end of the game? Even Solidus is mentioned.

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#369 July 16, 2008, 03:04:51 pm

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MGS1 was probably left open so Konami could work on a sequel and he could work on a new game. Probably would've been better that way.

None of the games were meant to end the franchise, that's pretty much up to Konami.

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HL

#370 July 16, 2008, 05:34:24 pm

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Quote from: Fujin on July 16, 2008, 02:53:11 pm

Now that's some bullshit right there. If he wanted to stop it at that, why would he have left clues about a sequel at the end of the game? Even Solidus is mentioned.

It was left open for a sequel, but he didn't want to work on it. He just doesn't want to be known as "the Metal Gear Solid guy", y'know? He worked on Zone of the Enders, but very little people know Snatcher or anything.

I don't know how you can question it's bullshit when MGS2 was like, made so people would hate it so he could move on, and yet people ate it up anyways.

Each game has progressively gotten worse, and people progressively eat it up more and more and send him more and more death threats and shit. Dude's life must suck bad.

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#371 July 16, 2008, 05:37:59 pm

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Quote from: HL on July 16, 2008, 05:34:24 pm

It was left open for a sequel, but he didn't want to work on it. He just doesn't want to be known as "the Metal Gear Solid guy", y'know? He worked on Zone of the Enders, but very little people know Snatcher or anything.

I don't know how you can question it's bullshit when MGS2 was like, made so people would hate it so he could move on, and yet people ate it up anyways.

Each game has progressively gotten worse, and people progressively eat it up more and more and send him more and more death threats and shit. Dude's life must suck bad.

barring MGS4 how can you really say the games have gotten progressively worse?

2, 3 and 4 all have faaaaaaar superior gameplay than 1. 4 probably being the best gameplay. 2 has a pretty crazy story but it's still pretty entertaining and is certainly not bad! 3 has a really good, straightforward story and probably the best ending in the series.

and i don't really think mgs2 was made so people would hate it.

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HL

#372 July 16, 2008, 05:41:05 pm

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Gameplay wise, yes.
Storywise, no.

They all have well told stories, but they all get progressively less in touch with reality, which is probably the point, but it's still not very good tbh. At least coming from MGS1, anyways.

And I'm pretty sure Kojima knew Raiden was going to piss people off on purpose. And adding all the wacked out shit.

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Fujin

#373 July 16, 2008, 05:48:50 pm

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Quote from: HL on July 16, 2008, 05:34:24 pm

It was left open for a sequel, but he didn't want to work on it.

Well first you said he wanted it to stop. Anyway I'd like to see a source where he says he didn't want to work on the series anymore after MGS1, because I find that hard to believe.

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#374 July 16, 2008, 09:09:18 pm

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i didn't hear that he wanted to stop after MGS1 myself, but i am almost positive he said this after MGS2. he said he wanted the series to continue but he didn't want to be the one directing it. i recall there being a JAMES BOND reference, he compared it to something like that (how there are different bond movies by various directors).

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#375 July 22, 2008, 10:10:26 am

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The intro to Snake Eater is enough to make any die hard James Bond fan cringe. Kojima was blatantly watching one of the old James Bond intros and thought man time to eat some juicy solid snakes:

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