Weird News Articles (Recent: Japanese woman jailed for virtual killing)

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ase

#121 April 29, 2008, 03:45:31 am

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guys it's just Inri Cheetos trolling. This is how I identify him as a member. We can't force him to stop, because then he'd turn into just another shitty boring unrecognizable member. let him be

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kermit the toad

#122 April 29, 2008, 05:23:12 am

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Quote from: Inri Cheetos on April 29, 2008, 01:45:15 am

Why?

Because prior to the advent of modern medicine, child birth was the most common cause of death among women.

Quote from: Eric on April 29, 2008, 03:39:44 am

She had a tv, a bathroom, a bed, and hot plates. The things needed to kill a person are well within those items, and you'd think that being raped for some 15 years would get the nerve up enough to act.

Stockholm Syndrome, maybe?

Last Edit: April 29, 2008, 05:25:47 am by kermit the toad

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datamanc3r

#123 April 29, 2008, 05:32:44 am

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This is sick.

The children were pretty much domesticated to living in the basement. And the man's daughter, having been sexually abused as a child, probably wouldn't have the fight in her to try to escape. It's amazing -- the extent to which people can accustom themselves to such sordid conditions. Of course, the conditions are subjective, and I'm sure if any of us were brought up under such circumstances, we wouldn't mind it so much.

I was wondering, though. Wouldn't the kids be mentally retarded or something? Something is wrong with the genetics here, or perhaps I'm just failing to recall basic 9th grade bio correctly.

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#124 April 29, 2008, 05:53:04 am

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as far as i know if mental retardation is a family trait then you have a high chance of keeping it with imbreeding, just like any other hereditary illness

edit: this is fucked up btw

Last Edit: April 29, 2008, 05:55:16 am by Harry Manback

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE<br />DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS<br />PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES<br />DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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#125 April 29, 2008, 05:54:41 am

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Quote from: Cho on April 29, 2008, 03:02:36 am

Let's begin counting down until this appears as a storyline on Law & Order SVU.

Too late man, I remember seeing one very similar to this a few years ago. It's actually the first thing that I thought of when I read the topic title.

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dada

#126 April 29, 2008, 06:01:30 am

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Last time this happened in Europe, the man who did it committed suicide. This time, though, he'll stand trial. I'm glad about that.

I've got hardly anything else to say. I hate saying anything about cases like this one.

EDIT: oh, please just let me say this. You all don't have to reply, I'll do it for you.

Quote from: Inri Cheetos on April 29, 2008, 06:00:34 am

But today only something like 10% of them need any intervention from modern medicine.

Inri Cheetos, please shut up. This topic is about a man who has kept his daughter in his basement for 24 years and had several children with her. You should be thankful for the fact ASE was lenient with you before and just leave this topic. I would have warned you right away after the first post because of how obvious it is you're trying to ruin yet another topic with your naivety and pseudoscience that borders on insanity. Your claims are wild, irregular and incoherent, and have absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

I don't just speak for myself, by the way. If you don't stop trolling, you're going to get warned for it, and that's not just because I want that to happen, but simply because that's a fact.

If you've got something to say about pregnancies and hospitals, go do it someplace else. Start a new topic and watch it get destroyed by people who do know their stuff. But don't do it here. Like so many times before, your bringing these things up in unrelated places shows a complete lack of respect for other people and their topics. Stop doing that. Show some constraint and get a life.

Last Edit: April 29, 2008, 06:11:16 am by Dada

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#127 April 29, 2008, 06:03:16 am

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Quote from: Inri Cheetos on April 29, 2008, 06:00:34 am

But today only something like 10% of them need any intervention from modern medicine.

10% of how many, Inri? What should we do with the 10% who need medicinal intervention? Pray, perhaps? You have to think about what's good for people as a whole, not what would be more convenient/cheaper. C'mon now.

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Grin Tree

#128 April 29, 2008, 06:14:13 am

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I was wondering, though. Wouldn't the kids be mentally retarded or something? Something is wrong with the genetics here, or perhaps I'm just failing to recall basic 9th grade bio correctly.

Yeah, this. Even if he is 50% related to his daughter, they should all have some kind of some kind of learning disability or deformity to some extent or degree Let's not forget that the mother/daughter was in a cellar during the entire pregnancy, being deprived of vitamin D (obtained mostly from the sun) is pretty substantial in itself, but I find it really hard to believe that these kids are all fine when she probably wasn't eating right, either.

I'm no expert, but it's definitely odd if not miraculous.

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ase

#129 April 29, 2008, 06:36:09 am

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Inri Cheetos, I appreciate your hilarity when you add it to topics in Crap Shack and Post 9/11 World, but please keep it out of General discussions.

Dada is right, I started to warn you when I saw your first post but then quickly changed my mind and said "NAH HE'LL BACK DOWN after people realize he's just a joker heh." Now you're just annoying and inciting people on purpose. Stop it.

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HL

#130 April 29, 2008, 10:51:17 am

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Quote from: Grin Tree on April 29, 2008, 06:14:13 am

Yeah, this. Even if he is 50% related to his daughter, they should all have some kind of some kind of learning disability or deformity to some extent or degree Let's not forget that the mother/daughter was in a cellar during the entire pregnancy, being deprived of vitamin D (obtained mostly from the sun) is pretty substantial in itself, but I find it really hard to believe that these kids are all fine when she probably wasn't eating right, either.

I'm no expert, but it's definitely odd if not miraculous.

Nah, they all shouldn't have a disability, it's not like HAVE SEX WITH FAMILY = 100% CHANCE of genetic fuckup, it just increases the chances by a lot.

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#131 April 29, 2008, 12:32:04 pm

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Fritzl was placed in pretrial detention and faces up to 15 years in prison if charged, tried and convicted on rape charges, the most grave of his alleged offenses under Austrian law.

And he only gets fifteen years for this? Or does this mean that there are more charges involved (the wording angers and confuses me)?

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Ralph

#132 April 29, 2008, 01:02:38 pm

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I'm pretty sure there's more charges involved.

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#133 April 29, 2008, 08:43:47 pm

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Quote from: kermit the toad on April 29, 2008, 05:23:12 am

Because prior to the advent of modern medicine, child birth was the most common cause of death among women.
Stockholm Syndrome, maybe?

That, and many other psychological problems against her. Interestingly enough, it's in female's biological programming to not resist something like this, particularly when they've already been abused.

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I was wondering, though. Wouldn't the kids be mentally retarded or something? Something is wrong with the genetics here, or perhaps I'm just failing to recall basic 9th grade bio correctly.

Not at all. Inbreeding only eliminates genetic variation, which increases the probability for something - anything genetic - to go wrong. This is why the Royalty here all had Hemophilia, not Down's Syndrome. As Grin Tree said, the nutrition would be a more likely cause of mental problems, though that would definitely depend upon the minerals she was lacking in her life in the basement.

I could say something here about Australians, but coming from a Brit it would sound bad on my part. Let's just hope they've got the proper justice to deal with this guy.

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Grin Tree

#134 April 29, 2008, 08:52:00 pm

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Quote from: handsome lamb on April 29, 2008, 10:51:17 am

Nah, they all shouldn't have a disability, it's not like HAVE SEX WITH FAMILY = 100% CHANCE of genetic fuckup, it just increases the chances by a lot.

I know two parents who are cousins (they're third cousins) that got married and had kids. Each kid is normal, but they each have a slight defect. Out of the three kids, one had two weird 'protrusions' of what I can only describe as cartilage or skin next to his ears on each side that had to be removed. Another has a weird condition on one eye that she needs glasses for (the iris has some kind of weird indentation making it look irregular and not circular) and the third kid they had needed to have surgery for a condition that was preventing her from breathing properly while sleeping (not sure what it was, but it was something neither of the parents had in their family history).

These are just third cousins, too, so maybe the kids in this story aren't necessarily retarded, but I'm sure they have some slight defects due to very similar genes being...mixed.

Last Edit: April 29, 2008, 08:54:25 pm by Grin Tree

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HL

#135 April 29, 2008, 09:02:12 pm

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Quote from: Grin Tree on April 29, 2008, 08:52:00 pm

I know two parents who are cousins (they're third cousins) that got married and had kids. Each kid is normal, but they each have a slight defect. Out of the three kids, one had two weird 'protrusions' of what I can only describe as cartilage or skin next to his ears on each side that had to be removed. Another has a weird condition on one eye that she needs glasses for (the iris has some kind of weird indentation making it look irregular and not circular) and the third kid they had needed to have surgery for a condition that was preventing her from breathing properly while sleeping (not sure what it was, but it was something neither of the parents had in their family history).

These are just third cousins, too, so maybe the kids in this story aren't necessarily retarded, but I'm sure they have some slight defects due to very similar genes being...mixed.

it's not a guaranteed thing at all. it just increases the chance of it. there are incestuous kids who are perfectly normal, and there are incestuous kids who are far worse than what you said. so...

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#136 April 30, 2008, 12:02:40 am

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Quote from: handsome lamb on April 29, 2008, 09:02:12 pm

it's not a guaranteed thing at all. it just increases the chance of it. there are incestuous kids who are perfectly normal, and there are incestuous kids who are far worse than what you said. so...

I know, this only reaffirms my statement of it being 'miraculous' that those kids are completely functional. I don't doubt that there are worst cases out there, considering the example cases I gave weren't nearly severe as this one.

Now I wonder if the miscarriages she had were a result of incest.

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#137 April 30, 2008, 01:06:52 am

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Apparently from a discussion I had with Jeff (I think it was, I could be wrong!), incest only increases the chances of recessive genes being dominant, because both parents have those recessive genes, or something. So, if they both had recessive genes that weren't great, the kids might be messed up some, but otherwise they'd be more or less normal. Just paraphrasing what I learned from him, but it sounds right to me, so... There's that!

Yeah, this is... Wow. This is just kind of terrible. To think this woman, and her kids, have led such terrible lives... I mean, a nineteen-year-old probably without any sort of education, and quite probably the older daughter, too... Jesus. Things like these, man.

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#138 April 30, 2008, 01:26:41 am

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Sick! why those children do not try to escape..?!

Life is worth living. Even if it hurts you, even if you hurt in it.

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#139 April 30, 2008, 02:54:08 am

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thats horrible. this was probably started off as a hobby of his and he enjoyed himself. sick fuck.

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#140 April 30, 2008, 03:51:00 am

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Quote from: Grin Tree on April 30, 2008, 12:02:40 am

I know, this only reaffirms my statement of it being 'miraculous' that those kids are completely functional. I don't doubt that there are worst cases out there, considering the example cases I gave weren't nearly severe as this one.

Now I wonder if the miscarriages she had were a result of incest.

It's not very miraculous per se, there's a much higher chance of them being normal than being defected in some way. Most children resulting from this stuff usually wind up normal, barring the fact that your family screwed each other to make you.

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