Topic: Limbo of the Lost - the worst case of gaming plagiarism ever. (Read 5341 times)

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http://forum.gamesradar.com/viewtopic.php?t=120121&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

For the lazy:
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Limbo of the Lost, developed by Majestic Studios and published by London based G2 Games, appears to contain locations with striking similarities to places found in Bethesda's Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivionas reported by GamePlasma

Limbo of the Lost:


Oblivion:



















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Bethesda have been contacted:
Danielle Woodyatt, PR Representative for Bethesda wrote:
We aren't going to comment. Screens pretty much speak for themselves. Legal is looking into it.

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This was posted over on GAF, and it turns out that Oblivion wasn't Limbo of the Lost's only 'influence'.
Step forward Thief: Deadly Shadows.

LotL:


Thief, Deadly Shadows:


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Looks like they added a few skulls to throw us off the trail.

But wait!

The skulls are an item from one of the Diablo games:


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"Wall of the Eyeless, Bone Shield"
http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/normal/ushields.shtml

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Surely the game's trailer would be free of such blatant plagiarism...

Limbo of the Lost trailer (skip to 02:40 if you can't bear watching it all):
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28891.html

Looks just like this bit from the Spawn movie, but with a colour change (00:24):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KMYx8lG59A

Just before that, at 02:36 in the Limbo of the Lost trailer, you also get a glimpse of the chapter 2 level 6 boss level from PC game Painkiller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJniAgD5wT0


Limbo of the Lost is actually on shop shelves right now:
http://www.game.co.uk/PC/PointandClick/~r330135/Limbo-of-the-Lost/

I wonder what other games and movies they've stolen from? Laughing


EDIT - more stuff from further on in the thread.

Morrowind's Orcish armour:


LotL:


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The weapons are from Morrowind too apparently.

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Interview with the devs:
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Gordon: So have any more recent games influenced your current project?

Steve: The project is more influenced by film and literature rather than other games, we want the experience to be as original as possible and as such we have made a calculated effort to keep away from other games in the genre. Limbo of the Lost is an experience first and foremost, secondly wrapped up in a game media and genre.

Gordon: During the long gestation for this game, what sort of changes have you made to bring it up to date.

Steve: All of the game (apart from initial background story and some character designs) had to be re-written, all the characters had to be created in 3D and animated, all the background scenes re-created, all the sounds, coding and music?..basically everything had to be redone or newly created for the PC version. This is not an old game that has been dressed up. This is the original concept, dusted off and re-created.

 :fogetlaugh:

LotL:


Diablo 2:


LotL:


UT2k4:


LotL:


UT2k4:


LotL:


Painkiller:


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Vampire: Bloodlines spotted:
http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=848828&st=20#
http://pc.gamezone.com/gamesell/screens/s29203_4.htm


Pirates of the Caribbean spotted:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11552930&postcount=218


Some of the dialogue from the trailer (the bit with the daemon speaking) has been lifted from Rune:
http://www.inkslinger.org/writing/samples/writing/writingsamplerunescript.html
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The dead do not welcome the presence of the living, warrior. You remind them of all they have lost.



Press release has been issued by the US publisher:
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– Tri Synergy, Inc. ( www.trisynergy.com) would like to publish an official comment regarding recent comparisons of level design and artwork between Majestic Studios’ Limbo of the Lost and Bethesda’s The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion/Eidos Interactive’s Thief: Deadly Shadows.

Tri Synergy is just as shocked as everyone else is by the recent screenshot comparisons. At no point during our dealings with Majestic Studios up until the point that the comparison was first publicly made by a third party did we have any knowledge of these similarities. Additionally, Tri Synergy will discontinue distribution of Limbo of the Lost in both retail and online outlets.

We have contacted the developer, Majestic, and are anxiously awaiting their response. As soon as we know more on this matter we will issue another statement.

More information about Tri Synergy is available from www.trisynergy.com.

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After the revelation, others looking into the game discovered environments and features that appeared to be taken from other games including:

    * The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    * Black & White 2
    * Unreal Tournament 2004
    * Unreal Tournament 2003
    * Diablo II
    * Thief: The Dark Project
    * Thief: Deadly Shadows
    * a CryENGINE2 Tech Demo
    * Silent Hill 4: The Room[citation needed]
    * Return to Castle Wolfenstein
    * Sea Dogs[8][9]
    * Painkiller
    * Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
    * The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth
    * Hexen
    * World of Warcraft[10][11]

Other scenes appear to be taken from live action films: one from the 1997 film Spawn, Beetlejuice [12], another from Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl and several more from Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End.[13][14]

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Similar screens revealed the company's theft of graphics goes back even to the original version for the Amiga.

These guys are completely sickening and I hope no one buys this game. The amount of blatant plagiarism here is completely...well, sickening is all I can say.

I'm speechless. How did these guys think they could get away with this?
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The images don't work, and I already knew this. It's awesome how people think they can get away with stuff.
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ahahahaha, this is hilarious. these guys rule and i fully support this. i'm going to buy copies of this for myself and all my friends.
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Didn't they think if they stole all those maps and shit that not only the game would look completely inconsistent but obviously if anyone had played the games they ripped off people would notice?

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doesn't it seem like it would be harder to so exactly copy from that many games than to just create the maps themselves?
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doesn't it seem like it would be harder to so exactly copy from that many games than to just create the maps themselves?

They more than likely literally ripped the textures and such and did it. Everything is way too similar to be created-but-similar
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this game has the very best trailer and i want to play it
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They more than likely literally ripped the textures and such and did it. Everything is way too similar to be created-but-similar
no, the game is pre-rendered. they print-screened pictures from these games and made it so you could walk around in them. the backgrounds are 2d, not 3d.

i like the trailer a lot btw. check out 2:20.
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damn crap bastards at majestic stole my idea!  guess I'll just have to steal graphics from some other games.
Last Edit: June 19, 2008, 01:28:36 pm by manoftheponcho
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I don't get it.. How would any company ever believe that they coul actually get away with this without having anyone catch on?

This is just.. Wow. It's damn funny that they thought they could get away with this, but it's also pretty ridiculous that they, well, even did this in the first place.
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is this an rpg maker game?
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It's made in some freeware game creator, comparable to AGS.
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wintermute?

Edit: yeah, it's wintermute. I'm surprised how many of those games are being published ON STORE SHELVES. Why the hell is anyone surprised given that it's made in fucking WINTERMUTE? I mean, white chamber and dead city were pretty good games, but they were also free. I don't see why anyone would pay retail price for an indy game and not expect it to plagiarize.

EDIT2: Oh, and with the website being on Geocities, for fuck's sake.
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Yup, that's the one.
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if you wish to see more and keep up to date on PLAGIARISIMS then feel free to browse http://lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo_of_the_Lost_Wiki

Raz pointed out they used some crappy fire gif from like the 90s on the internet to make the torches animate in one of the Oblivion scenes.

It's mentioned here:
http://lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Backgrounds
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Oh good God.

Maybe I should make a game in wintermute, because obviously no matter how bad it is, it'll get published.
Last Edit: June 19, 2008, 04:51:34 pm by Alec
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This seems way too obvious to not be deliberate. They may have intentially plagiarised these games to get media attention. I bet you sales will increase now, becuase its changed from being a really shit looking game to something far more interesting and amusing
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idk plagiarism..

but it also looks like quite an ass game

nothing going for it
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This seems way too obvious to not be deliberate. The may have intentially plagiarised these games to get media attention. I bet you sales will increase now, becuase its changed from being a really shit looking game to something far more interesting and amusing

Yeah, everyone knows the best way to make money is to get sued for copyright infringement.
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