I would really like to talk about the actual music, but the reason why I mostly call this punk is because the artists themselves call it punk
OF COURSE THE "ARTIST" WANTS TO
PRETEND THEY ARE PUNK.
They call themselves punk because it
SELLS, not because they ACTUALLY are punk.
In the very same way Blink 182 or Green Day call themselves punk when they actually are not AT ALL.
I understand the complexities of the breadth of the genre and sub-genres
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTthe complexities... man, you are just talking bullshit.
Punk is not complex at all, it is pretty simple state of mind.
In fact, LESSON #1 about punk: PUNK IS NOT A GENRE. It is first an attitude, the punk music genre is derivation from that attitude. Music DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO SOUND PUNK ROCK to be punk.
And why the fuck are you talking about sub-genres? I'm not talking about subgenres and what the fuck.
Punk is very fucking simple, no fucking sub-sub genres or such man.
And sir, there is nothing pretentious in what I'm talking about. THIS IS PART OF
HISTORY OF CULTURE I'M TALKING ABOUT.