yes you'll be able to do that, and yes the 1st month is free.

18th holy shit thats the day i come back home. so i will order a) my new pc and b) Warhammer for then. superb!!

i'm pretty much sold because WoW is really beginning to tire for me and i'm betting wotlk will just be more of the same. time to try something new!

sux to be Euros...maybe all you Euros should come join us i n America away from GOA HEH... (but it would p be laggy so ​)

Also yes Rajew, those patch notes are bigger than an assload of the WoW patch notes put together. I'm almost surprised I could fit it into one post on here.

*Death: Has a new look and feel. Try it out today!

lol

btw how is the pvp balanced in this? From what I read (I have read so little about this game okay) 1v1 is really imbalanced so what's it balanced around exactly?

Will prolly try this out on the 18th or more likely 19th since I'll be direct to drivin dat shit

lol

btw how is the pvp balanced in this? From what I read (I have read so little about this game okay) 1v1 is really imbalanced so what's it balanced around exactly?

Will prolly try this out on the 18th or more likely 19th since I'll be direct to drivin dat shit

yes 1v1 isn't balanced because like every non-bad game out there it doesn't balance around 1v1 :p (you'll very rarely if ever fight 1v1 anyways), it's balanced around 24v24.

I don't really know what to think about WHO. The overall look of the graphical quality and interface immediately remind me of total WoW clone, but I guess the world is a lot darker than WoW's. I'm also more sceptical about "new hyped up" MMORPGs after Age of Conan. The games promise lots of shit but when you finally get in live phase you find out most of those stuff are not in and won't come for many months.

I'm also more of an explorer. I like PvE and I'm not really keen on games where PvP is the only way to progress. I also like the whole game to feel as one, not a single package with PvE game and PvP game. WHO seems to be a game that seperates these two completely which sounds total suckage.

okay so it's balanced around 24 idiots versus 23 idiots and me. Fair enough but I mean how does that work out in play? Like, in all the videos I've looked at the way fights seem to work is 3+ guys kill a guy then kill another guy and so on. Maybe I just don't understand Deep PVP because this is what guild wars was too when I tried it with you.

okay so it's balanced around 24 idiots versus 23 idiots and me. Fair enough but I mean how does that work out in play? Like, in all the videos I've looked at the way fights seem to work is 3+ guys kill a guy then kill another guy and so on. Maybe I just don't understand Deep PVP because this is what guild wars was too when I tried it with you.

It's balanced around a 24 person group of people who know what they are doing sieging a 24 person group of people who know what they are doing sieging.

I don't really know what to think about WHO. The overall look of the graphical quality and interface immediately remind me of total WoW clone, but I guess the world is a lot darker than WoW's. I'm also more sceptical about "new hyped up" MMORPGs after Age of Conan. The games promise lots of shit but when you finally get in live phase you find out most of those stuff are not in and won't come for many months.

I'm also more of an explorer. I like PvE and I'm not really keen on games where PvP is the only way to progress. I also like the whole game to feel as one, not a single package with PvE game and PvP game. WHO seems to be a game that seperates these two completely which sounds total suckage.

Don't get me wrong, you can progress in PvE too. They have high end raid-esque style things, but that isn't the only way to progress in PvE and vice versa.

It's balanced around a 24 person group of people who know what they are doing sieging a 24 person group of people who know what they are doing sieging.

Don't get me wrong, you can progress in PvE too. They have high end raid-esque style things, but that isn't the only way to progress in PvE and vice versa.

Yeah the idiots+me thing was a joke, I'm just wondering how it PLAYS because the only mmo I've played is wow. In a battleground you'll usually have lots of seperate 2v2s, 3v3s and sometimes 1v1s and lots of 1vXs. Do you have some opportunity to show individual skill or just teamwork, like can I do some equivalent to fakecasting out a spell lock and ice blocking the incoming deathcoil or is it more a case of "you're dead as a Crimson Wallskater if you don't have an Emerald Priest Knight supporting you if a Legion Snakechanneller is attacking"? Are the hundreds of smallscale fights that take place in a largescale fight rock paper scissors bullshit basically

There's individual skill and teamwork, but it really depends on what you're doing. Sieging requires a lot of teamwork and splitting off to do some stuff away from the big groups, etc.

Hmmm that isn't really what I wanted to know but nvm. How big a part does gear play in this game and how much better if at all is loot obtained from pve than from pvp (if any loot is obtained from pvp)

I know I could RESEARCH this shit but you seem to know all about it so pls!

It looks like there's quite a few items (Usable in PVE Content Only) which is weird

there's 3 sets of armor at the top tier of gear, which is PvE gear gotten from PvE only, Bounty Hunter gear which is PvE/PvP gear gotten from both, and PvP gear gotten from PvP.

Gear matters little tho, unless if you are 1v1 fighting an equally skilled peep, which will almost never happen. Being smart/playing your class well > gear if you can outplay the other guy.

All those separate types do is not much. PvE gear is more defense oriented, PvP gear is more offense oriented, Bounty Hunter is a mix of both.

EDIT:
each class also has 20 sets of tier 4 armor apparently, which means there's 400 sets of Tier 4 armor in the game.

edit:
also mark no it isn't RPS bullshit. Pretty much every class has the same options, just the options are a little bit different in power. It's not like WoW where ONLY ONE CLASS CAN STEALTH IF YOU DONT HAVE A DESTEALTHER YOU BUMMED, or ONLY X HAS Y SO IF THEY DONT HAVE X I AM STRONGER BY A TON (Cloak of Shadowsss).

every class can remove debuffs, heal in some way, buff teammates, shatter enchantments, remove curses, deal damage, etc. Some are just better at some of those than others, but never to the point where its like, WELP WE DONT HAVE X CLASS ON OUR SIDE WE'RE DOOMED.

EDIT:
each class also has 20 sets of tier 4 armor apparently, which means there's 400 sets of Tier 4 armor in the game.

edit:
also mark no it isn't RPS bullshit. Pretty much every class has the same options, just the options are a little bit different in power. It's not like WoW where ONLY ONE CLASS CAN STEALTH IF YOU DONT HAVE A DESTEALTHER YOU BUMMED, or ONLY X HAS Y SO IF THEY DONT HAVE X I AM STRONGER BY A TON (Cloak of Shadowsss).

every class can remove debuffs, heal in some way, buff teammates, shatter enchantments, remove curses, deal damage, etc. Some are just better at some of those than others, but never to the point where its like, WELP WE DONT HAVE X CLASS ON OUR SIDE WE'RE DOOMED.

Sounds v nice. Where's all that tier 4 armor sets from? PVE stuff? btw how does the pve in this game look, fun or as gay as in most similar games

Well Tier doesn't mean what you think it means. In the game zones are called tiers. Tier 1 is level 1-10 iirc, etc. Each tier has its own areas, scenarios, etc. Armor is classified by tiers based on the area you get them. ie: any piece of armor you get from a Tier 1 area is called Tier 1.

So a Tier 4 armor set is anything you get from PvE/PvP in a T4 zone which is the upper levels.

So a Tier 4 PvE set you'll get from doing difficult PvE stuff (PQ's, dungeons, etc) in a Tier 4 PvE zone. There will be different looks and I think they all have the same stats, but I'm not sure, not seen any yet.

Then there's Tier 4 PvP set which you get from Sieges/Scenarios/etc in Tier 4 zones.

Then there's Tier 4 BH set which you get from killing players/completing quests in Tier 4 zones.

Also idk what you mean by how does the PvE look, but assuming you mean the content itself (like how is it (??)), all the Public Quests are amazing AMAZING fun, since they are more like the INTERACTIVE STUFF you have in WoW and are super fast paced with a quick progress involving tons of players. The quests themselves are generally your standard fare but go by a lot quicker and give bigger rewards than WoW's do, and I can't comment on the dungeons since I've not done any and no one has seen the high end ones afaik.

Hmmmm yeah I heard about that tier system with the RvR and pve sections in each zone bracket thing before, forgot all about that. I'm looking forward to trying this out a lot now

Welp, since Engineers are fucking bad ass now:


















I've decided I'm also going to roll an Engie on another server to try one out. Here's my current planned mastery setup (obviously for release, I like to plan ahead):
http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=4#0:0:15:43176:3:8:25

This is looking pretty nice.

if we get enough euro folks playing we should all play on the same server imho. but it better not be like wow where we all played together for like a week then everyone fucked off

yeah we'll have to see how i do in college and how much time ill have for playing mmos.

also we're doing evil if im playing

yeah we'll have to see how i do in college and how much time ill have for playing mmos.

also we're doing evil if im playing

ye