heh, name one then

yea, just like I thought....you can't. oh brother

Magic Dirt................bitch. dont try that stunt again 

I quite like Kate Bush

you's a dick


also real_jamicus what do you think of this vocal-wise???

i really really like the chorus in this song. i got this album now, too. i like her voice here the most i've heard it anywhere so far i think. she has this twinge of an old english accent on some words, usually around "ah" sounds. that gets on my nerves, because it just sounds pretentious and haughty i guess. i dunno how she actually talks and i'm not one to talk about fake singing accents but what can i say, i hate it when frank sinatra does it too, a lot of singers do this although it's mostly older ones.

but even though i've got my stupid little complaints about her voice, this music is at least interesting to me. listening to her voice is good and bad, not just ugh yuck, and the music itself is often pretty good, too. it's a little bit cheesey all round but i like that. the music is obviously nothing like this, but i mean one of my favourite albums is smile from the streets you hold by john frusciante and a lot of that album is pretty damn bad just from how it sounds but it's really interesting to listen to and there's a whole atmosphere about it. so it's a similar deal here, although instead of being abrasive at times it is haughty and generic, but there's also good stuff.

part of my problem with amos and her lillith fair ilk is I've always had the impression their music is more about keeping a certain aesthetic rather than being, you know, good. amos, ani di franco, and a lot of THEEEEM have huge discographies and a lot of the albums suck but try telling a fan that. they even respect Y Kant Tori Read?, an infamously terrible first effort ruined by studio interference, because it comes from TOOOOORRRII.

a lot of the time I listen to them it's clearly more about catering to some fanbase that I really want no part of. I've been fans of groups with ridiculous fanbases before (Marillion just leaked their new album guys!) so its not just FANBASES EW but the degree to which they are obsessed over. whether it's intentional or not, every fucking thing Amos does, from her music to just her LIFE WORK (does it surprise anyone she's friends with Neil Gaiman and they're doing a comic book together, no doubt based on her works?) is all about her fanbase, not about making good music.

and she can make good music, she's clearly talented, but when you hear a song like Me and a Gun, you have to wonder at the genuinity of writing a song about being raped in first person and whether she's just really talented at channeling rape victims (and I mean, the band I just mentioned, Marillion, wrote a brilliant album about suicide so it's not like it's impossible) or whether it was just the setup for an aesthetic that she keeps today, and that's really not a problem I have with most artists so like I said, music for a fanbase, not music for music's sake.

that and its really gay music and if I'm going to listen to that shit I've got other bands.

*turns on Sufjan Stevens, moans along to the lyrics*

dunno I think the whole woman with a piano thing is really just a bunch of people trying to be Joni Mitchell

Joni is pretty awesome!

I like Kate Bush and Tori as well ​  But then again I like this style of music (chicks at piano) so I dunno.  Within Temptation did a pretty nice (at least I think so) cover of Running up that Hill by Kate Bush.

Also she's vegan lolz

that and its really gay music

this too. i'm gonna go listen to a song about guns now, just to recover from this topic.

(Marillion just leaked their new album guys!)

hey what's the go with Marillion's fans? i like the group, but are the fans really obsessive and nerdy?

she was never raped bro.

she was kidnapped by some guy after a show who threatened to rape her but as far as I know didn't actually touch her and then threw her out of the van.

she also said that man and a gun isn't about her in interviews.

b*tch I dated two fairy girls you tryin to step on the useless tori knowledge i've gathered....think again.

oh i guess i misremembered it, apparently the discrepancy is whether she was raped at GUNPOINT or not.

but i seriously could swear MULTIPLE TIMES hearing she wasn't.

im gonna investigate this more!!!!!!!fuck tori amos (because shes a SLUT lol)

edit: think I found it

The song was inspired by a real event in Tori's life, an event refers to as a rape in some interviews, and a sexual assault in others. For years there has been discussion on the net about this song and how much it has helped others who were violated. However, there are also some postings online that say that Tori was not really raped. This has caused a considerable amount of confusion among some Toriphiles, and to this day I still get emails that ask, "Was Tori Amos Really Raped?"

thats probably what happened; conflicting interviews. I knew the Tori fans on SA were also saying she hadn't been raped, so I guess it all stems from this.

y kant tori read? because shes a woman and as such spends her time in the kitchen making meals for men.

all tori songs are about being raped except im the victim