Topic: Guild Wars Megathread v3.0 [3rd YEAR OF GUILD WARS WOO] (Read 6614 times)

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Well I have Factions, but I got bored with it pretty quickly (seriously the new classes aren't that fun). I played the open Beta for Nightfall but I don't actually have it. I never really got into PVP when I played it before, and I doubt I will this time, so that doesn't really affect me much.

They really buffed up the new classes so they dont suck so much ass as they did when it was released, but I find Factions in general boring (got it for Alliance Battles), Nightfall is really really good though and the new classes in it are pretty good. Plus so many skills in it are realllllly good. I'd recommend getting NF for sure. NF added a lot of utility spells to the Necromancer, and gave it some new Minion Master capabilities, EotN added a lot of strong Hex's to their arsenal. The NF skills that got added for Necros see a lot of play tho.
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I'd like to try this now but playNC won't let me buy it ("come back tomorrow and try chump"). Does anyone have a trial key left I could have?
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I'd like to try this now but playNC won't let me buy it ("come back tomorrow and try chump"). Does anyone have a trial key left I could have?

If Jester bought a boxed version of Prophecies it should of came with one, but if not you can PM thehunter for one. (ask if he has a Prophecies one!)

EDIT: Oh yeah, since I know you like PvP Mark, here's a good PvP video of Guild versus Guild, which is one of the two high level PvP areas in the game (there is also Hero's Ascent, but GvG gets more recognition and is used for tournaments etc)

Its split into 3 parts (for a total of 3 hours of footage), and is in DivX format, this was aired on US TV, but is up for anyone to watch. It is of one of ArenaNet's world tournaments. It explains how GvG works, and has interviews with the players and gameplay footage etc.

http://stage6.divx.com/user/nickeales/video/1257543/GWFC-Leipzig-DVD-1
http://stage6.divx.com/user/nickeales/video/1257427/GWFC-Leipzig-DVD-2
http://stage6.divx.com/user/nickeales/video/1259789/GWFC-Leipzig-DVD-3

Enjoy!
Last Edit: November 12, 2007, 03:59:48 am by DarkNecrid
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ps i bought the in-game store version so unless that comes with one (it doesnt)
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I PM'd Mark one of thehunter's trial keys!
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I have Guildwars: Prophecies  but got bored of it.

MAYBE if i can get a deal on one of the other games ill plug em in and play with you guys.


doubtful though but maybe

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Fileplanet also has a free trial offer:
http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/guild_wars/
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I have Guildwars: Prophecies  but got bored of it.

MAYBE if i can get a deal on one of the other games ill plug em in and play with you guys.


doubtful though but maybe

(i loved the fact you can ink your clothes to w/e color inks you had ... it was soo cool)

They actually upgraded that feature so now you can see what your cloths look like before you dye them. You can also see how different dye mixtures look on your cloths. Its very nice.
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Yeah, thanks for that HL and thehunter :D

I had a small go today, I rolled a ranger. It gave me two options: "roleplaying faggot" or "pvp masta" so you KNOW what i had to pick but I don't know if I did it right. As I understand it pvp characters are premade level 20 characters with predetermined stat points/gear or whatever that you can only enter pvp instances with and roleplaying characters are ones you can do anything on but start from level 1. Is that right? If so is there any benefits to rolling a character from scratch for me?

All I did so far was to speak to all the Masters of Learn to Play and play some trial arenas with some bot friends against bot enemies but the game seems quite cool. The controls are REALLY unnatural for me at the moment, it's the WORST that I can't swing my camera around with left click while I'm attacking. Seriously, is there anyway I can do this as I would in wow? The camera seems DETERMINED not to let me see anything good, when I start shooting it sometimes swings to the side and shit to give me a better look at my characters chest but no opponents. The only thing I've found useful in this department is Z to look behind me.

That guild vs guild looks pretty great. Am I right in thinking you get different abilities in the different games? Doesn't that affect pvp at all, like DAMN I WISH I HAD EXPANSION N THEN I COULD HAVE MORTAL STRIKE? Or have they made it so that builds made with prophecies abilities can be just as effective as ones in the rest

the way arrows work with damage and shit changing depending on height advantage is fucking cool.
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Yeah, thanks for that HL and thehunter :D

I had a small go today, I rolled a ranger. It gave me two options: "roleplaying faggot" or "pvp masta" so you KNOW what i had to pick but I don't know if I did it right. As I understand it pvp characters are premade level 20 characters with predetermined stat points/gear or whatever that you can only enter pvp instances with and roleplaying characters are ones you can do anything on but start from level 1. Is that right? If so is there any benefits to rolling a character from scratch for me?

All I did so far was to speak to all the Masters of Learn to Play and play some trial arenas with some bot friends against bot enemies but the game seems quite cool. The controls are REALLY unnatural for me at the moment, it's the WORST that I can't swing my camera around with left click while I'm attacking. Seriously, is there anyway I can do this as I would in wow? The camera seems DETERMINED not to let me see anything good, when I start shooting it sometimes swings to the side and shit to give me a better look at my characters chest but no opponents. The only thing I've found useful in this department is Z to look behind me.

That guild vs guild looks pretty great. Am I right in thinking you get different abilities in the different games? Doesn't that affect pvp at all, like DAMN I WISH I HAD EXPANSION N THEN I COULD HAVE MORTAL STRIKE? Or have they made it so that builds made with prophecies abilities can be just as effective as ones in the rest

the way arrows work with damage and shit changing depending on height advantage is fucking cool.

The camera will auto move unless you hold down the right mouse button, which can be annoying sometimes but you get used to it. The controls ARE pretty weird, but when you get used to them its really fluid and natural!

Also I would recommend you do SOME PvE for the class/subclass you're most interested in because you will unlock item mods and skills a TON faster than you ever will in PvP, which is the main advantage to PvEing.

As for the skills, yes, there is a set of skills that every campaign has called the "Core" skills, and Prophecies/Factions/Nightfall all add their own skills to the game. There are lots of builds that require X skill from Y campaign mind you, and you won't be able to compete at the highest level without having all 4 games because thats just the way it is, its not that say you're less effective, its just that all the reallllllly good builds have skills from multiple campaigns! You can play low level with only 1 campaign easy though (you can win in RA with just core skills actually) I would recommend you keep playing a bit to see if you really like it though obviously. The online store is going to be adding a PvP pack sometime "soon"(TM) according to Anet that will let you unlock all the skills/gamemodes/item mods/heroes so you can compete without buying the PvE mode if that is what you so desire. I don't know when that'll be though! :<

Also, I also like the arrows height change and stuff too, its really neat how the arrow system works, it feels a lot more natural compared to WoW's, but then again in WoW your arrows always hit, whereas your arrows can be dodged in GW.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I can do a Faction Farm with you. If you get good teams you can get 6000 Balthazar Faction per day (its the cap in the training arena you faction farm) by doing it, which is enough to buy 6 non-Elite skills (1,000 faction per skill), or 2 Elite Skills (3,000 per skill), or 6 basic items mods (1,000 per skill).

You said you rolled a ranger, I'd recommend you get Savage Shot and Whirling Defense thru a Priest of Balthazar as your first two skills once you get 2,000 Balth Faction. Savage lets you interrupt another player's action, and Whirling protects you while you lay a trap. Its a really really really simple Ranger build, but it works. *shrugs*

EDIT EDIT: Oh yeah Mark, you can hit B in an outpost and view Guild versus Guild matches in Observer. Its a really fucking awesome feature.
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Oh cool I got a cheap copy of Prophecies not long ago. Right now I play (very) casually. But I really ought to use a better graphics card. Maybe I'll try to do some GWing eh.

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Oh cool I got a cheap copy of Prophecies not long ago. Right now I play (very) casually. But I really ought to use a better graphics card. Maybe I'll try to do some GWing eh.

(FUCK I actually left GW but I'm back to mention this shut up.)

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I ould recomend doing alot of Heroes Ascent before you do Guild Vs Guild. GvG is very tough and it can take awhile to get good at it. Not to mention only low rated guilds would let you GvG with them if you just started.
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And he can't HA until he gets a high rank in it unless he finds a guild either!

Also the update today is amazing good.
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I find it funny that as soon as heroway hit the top GvG that they nerf it off the map, yet it took them a month to nerf it out of HA lol.
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I find it funny that as soon as heroway hit the top GvG that they nerf it off the map, yet it took them a month to nerf it out of HA lol.

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I Guild Wars and the Factions expansion, I use to play ALOT(clocked in over 100 hours). But once I got a character up to level 20(If I remember right he was a Ranger/Mesmer), my character totally sucked it up in PvP. So I started another, then got disctracted and stopped playing basically because my character sucked. Then I bought the Factions when it came out, played again maybe another 20-30 hours or so and quit again. Last I played was about 6 month's ago, but I am starting to get back into it again.

*Edit: Woah, how many expansions are out now? I have the original, and Factions.. Factions just came out like a year ago when I bought it.*
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I listed them all in the 1st post!

Also Mark, you have to get Crippling Shot for your Ranger, its pretty much 1 of their best elites, its an amazing CC, and with expertise you can keep 1 person Crippled forever.

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This is live in the new update :D
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so what expansions would you recommend to some one starting out, who's interested mainly in PVP?
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so what expansions would you recommend to some one starting out, who's interested mainly in PVP?

Prophecies + Nightfall if you want the best "competitive skills", since Nightfall skills see a lot of play, however Prophecies + Factions is good if you want to play Assassin + Ritualist. Factions + Nightfall is good for Assassin/Ritualist/Paragon/Dervish since those 2 campaigns have all their competitive skills, their Eye of the North skills arent that great...

Eventually you'll want to get all 4 though!

Update Notes

Guild Wars In-Game Store Updates
Added In-Game Store support for both the Holiday and the Unlock Pack promotions. For more information on the promotions and the new Unlock Packs, please visit the In-Game Store or the Guild Wars website.

Imperial Herald
The Imperial Herald located in the Great Temple of Balthazar has been updated with new announcements about the Xunlai House, the Unlock Pack promotion, the $100,000 Tournament series, new Guild Wars merchandise, and the Wintersday contest.

Bug fixes
*Fixed a bug on the second level of the Bloodstone Caves dungeon that caused a large group of bats to spawn on top of a resurrection shrine.
*Updated Confessor Dorian’s model to correct some graphical errors.
*Fixed a bug that allowed Glyph of Swiftness to give its 25% recharge bonus to more than 3 spells; fixed a bug that prevented some projectiles from receiving their proper speed bonus.
*Fixed a bug with the Asuran Scan skill that prevented some damage types from being properly multiplied.
*Fixed a bug that prevented some visual effects from the Healing Springs skill from matching the in-game effect.

Miscellaneous
*The Xunlai Tournament House NPC now has rewards for the October Tournament.
*Reduced the healing attributes of Forgotten Priests in the Thirsty River to compensate for the increased effectiveness of their Word of Healing skill.

PvP Unlocks

PvP Pack: This unlocks all arenas and lets you play PvP with all 10 professions. Cost: 20 USD
Core Skill Pack: Unlocks all core skills. Cost: 10 USD (on sale for 5 USD for a limited time!)
Prophecies Skill Pack: Unlocks all non-Core Prophecies skills. Cost: 10 USD. (on sale for 5 USD for a limited time!)
Factions Skill Pack: Unlocks all non-Core Factions skills. Cost: 10 USD. (on sale for 5 USD for a limited time!)
Nightfall Skill Pack: Unlocks all non-Core Nightfall skills. Cost: 10 USD. (on sale for 5 USD for a limited time!)
Eye of the North Skill Pack: Unlocks all non-Core EotN skills. Cost: 10 USD. (on sale for 5 USD for a limited time!)
Item Pack: Unlocks all item mods. Cost: 10 USD. (on sale for 5 USD for a limited time!)

Total Cost right now to unlock everything + PvP: 50 USD
Last Edit: November 16, 2007, 03:56:34 am by DarkNecrid