I heard a while back they were going to create an American remake.

i wouldn't actually worry too much about this because for one I think there's a strange licensing agreement that makes the copyright property of like SEVEN PEOPLE and that's why the movie never got a normal release here and more importantly this rumor gets kicked around every year.

they are sequeling who killed roger rabbit.....

ENTIRELY IN CGI!!!!

that wasn't fake post, i'm being 100% serious.

Yeah, not only did they never even secure the rights to Battle Royale before telling everyone they were making a remake, but after the Virginia Tech shooting they pretty much said "fuck...maybe....maybe we shouldn't...."  It sounds like it'll be just like the remake of A Tale of Two Sisters where they keep popping in saying it's going on and then popping in saying it's been delayed indefinitely and then this keeps going on forever with the end result being that it's never made.

The biggest problem with the BR movie is that you can't fuckin' fit 42+ people into a movie like that.  The book could take its time making all of them PEOPLE but in a movie you kind of have to just kill a bunch of them off early on to focus on the more major characters.

i never thought it was a problem but unlike you and a lot of people I never thought the book or manga was such hot shit. I actually still kind of enjoy Battle Royale because I think that's something where the concept pretty much could have sold the entire movie anyways and it could have gone fucking anywhere and kind of did and it would still be the definition of a fun action movie that isn't wolverine xmen origins or whatever piece of shit.

action movies need to focus more on concepts because I find I love the ones that embrace being about THEIR SHTICK more than joking about with a plot and when BATMAN MOVIE is an exception you might want to cut your losses. Crank ruled for instance because the entire premise is over the top YOUR HEART WILL STOP IF YOU DONT DO INSANE SHIT and it never tried for anything else.

basically action movies could stand to be Lady Gaga instead of Panic at the Disco, lets force an analogy where it doesn't belong.

recommendation btw for everyone but grindie who gets confused by the difference between push and pull signs on doors: lets get rid of the term MINDFUCK. every movie that is mildly intellectual seems to get saddled with this term and it's just becoming a catchall for "a movie that didn't hold your hand at one point". Memento was not a MINDFUCK. neither was Fight Club. they both sit down and tell you what happened and you say "oh" at some point.

I would argue neither the Fountain, Donnie Darko, and Pi are either, whatever your opinions, not only because I mean I GOT IT and I don't think I am that intelligent in regards to this kind of thing, it just meant I had to sit a bit after the movie and wonder at the parts that were clearly cryptic. oftentimes these parts btw REMAIN cryptic on purpose. for instance in the Fountain the real big question shouldn't be WHAT HAPPENED and maaaaan it actually made me wince when someone told me she didn't "get it" because it's clearly a three part story about the same three (six really) people trying to beat and coming to terms with their own mortality (movie sucks because all three of those parts suck) in different ways, but at what point or rather FOR what point they also directly intercede each other. I don't think there is an "answer" to this because I don't think he wanted one, you're supposed to be a nerd and think of your own shit. this doesn't make one interpretation more valid than the other but who cares about BEING RIGHT.

but none of these movies are that unclear it almost always turns out; they just have a twist they dont tell you. and then someone posts THAT MOVIE WAS A REAL MINDFUCK. RECOMMEND MORE MINDFUCKS.

WELL JACOB'S LADDER.

i know the obvious question is well when then what do we call them, and while I'd like to suggest you just say "movies like Pi and Donnie Darko" there's nothing wrong with what wikipedia classes them as, psychological thriller, and you aren't like IVE BEEN MINDFUCKED whenever you've seen one because imho it sounds like you're just a really dumb kid and can't follow the plot of Se7en.

edit: this spawns from my reading some reviews of Synecdoche, my favorite movie last year and every comment WAT A MINDFUCK and I'm like no it wasn't. it was a movie you thought about. if you are literally walking around going NO I DONT GET IT maybe I really fucking am just SUPER INTELLIGENT but with all these movies I just sit and think and can figure out which are not answerable questions and which were ohhhh that was from before, huh and then people are talking about FIGHT CLUB like the plot twist wasn't actually explained right to you.

Action movies are like the alphabet of manliness, it's not supposed to stimulate your brain but your MUSCLES.. yeah and your dick to a certain extent. Take the latest Die Hard for example; who the fuck cared for the cheesy story anyways?! THEY KILLED A FUCKING CHOPPER WITH A CAR DAMMIT. That scene was perfect action imo. They could've skipped the whole Bruce walking around on a jet fighter though cause that's impossible.. yes, I'd get assfucked by Bruce Willis if he asked me just to be able to brag about it >_>

i never thought it was a problem but unlike you and a lot of people I never thought the book or manga was such hot shit.

wait people liked the manga?

because i thought the manga was awful did people actually like it???????

Last night I went with some friends to see an advance screening of Coraline. Not only had I been looking forward to seeing this film for a little while, but it would be the first time I'd been to see a movie in 3D. The film itself was marvellous, absolutely brilliant. I have a couple of little gripes over the dialogue writing, at times it seemed to descend into merely propping up the plot, though it may be that I'm just used to the effortless brilliance found in pretty much every Pixar movie. That said, it didn't bother me too much, and I thought the character of Coraline was well developed. Now, the visuals. They were beautiful and boundlessly imaginative; think Nightmare Before Christmas with all of Burton's trademark gothickry replaced with wonderful bright fairytale colours. Computers were surely involved, but the thought that much of this was done with stop-motion puppetry is simply astounding. It was also unusually scary for a "children's" film. Sure, most fairytales have a hidden darkness, but I'm pretty sure anyone under 7 would've been a bit scared by certain parts. As for the 3D, yes, I was impressed. Not once did it descend into sharp-things-poking-you-in-the-eye gimmickry, but instead gave the whole thing a beautiful new depth. Perfect for a film like Coraline, though I'm still far from sold on the idea that all films will be made this way soon.

mindfuck stuff

would you consider mulholland drive a mindfuck?? its a really BAD term to use but mulholland drive is probably one of the most apt films to get that description. interested in your thoughts

edit: im the man behind winkies

i never thought it was a problem but unlike you and a lot of people I never thought the book or manga was such hot shit. I actually still kind of enjoy Battle Royale because I think that's something where the concept pretty much could have sold the entire movie anyways and it could have gone fucking anywhere and kind of did and it would still be the definition of a fun action movie that isn't wolverine xmen origins or whatever piece of shit.

action movies need to focus more on concepts because I find I love the ones that embrace being about THEIR SHTICK more than joking about with a plot and when BATMAN MOVIE is an exception you might want to cut your losses. Crank ruled for instance because the entire premise is over the top YOUR HEART WILL STOP IF YOU DONT DO INSANE SHIT and it never tried for anything else.

yo i agree here. I just downloaded the manga though and it is different from the movie, but I would not say it is somehow BETTER. for a film translation, the movie was pretty brutally effective in kind of making you feel more like THESE ARE PEOPLE than most other action movies I've seen and there are still scenes I rewatched like four times and can't stop cringing, like when the crazy transfer student kills the girls with the microphone. i would argue in fact that the manga takes a little too many liberties with the violence etc anyhow; there's a lot more, i don't even know how to describe it, UZUMAKI style psychological darkness there which the movie didn't have quite so much of and that makes the movie a little bit more of a focused product. i think that the movie was pretty direct and succeeds a lot for what it's based on almost directly because of it!

that and christ most of these action scenes are really, really, really well done, even when they're so short! the battle between the crazy scythe girl and the main antagonist was really good, even if it lasted approximately 20 seconds. in fact the only action sequence in this movie i DIDN'T really like was the final one between the other transfer and the villain, because he was basically writhing on the ground pretending to be dodging bullets and it was unintentionally hilarious.

would you consider mulholland drive a mindfuck?? its a really BAD term to use but mulholland drive is probably one of the most apt films to get that description. interested in your thoughts

part of this (almost all of it) is i hate the term, and i think it sounds terrible but calling it the most APT for this movie is definitely true. it's one of lynch's movies you can argue has an explanation for everything and that if you dismiss as HEH JUST PRETENTIOUS you are being really stupid grindie shit but conversely i think if anyone thinks there's a single right answer to some of the stuff in the movie you're PROBABLY wrong. I add probably because I think Lynch has implied before there were certain clues and I don't know if he means to a right answer or to a more coherent explanation regardless of what you think it means.

the first part of the term is definitely true. it is not a movie you can appreciate without thinking about. maybe you could there are TITS AND SOUNDS and its not poorly shot but this is not Crank 2 or even Battle Royale so yeah MIND for sure.

the issue is of course the part that makes it such a stupid word and is also usually the poorly applied part. I know for myself no movie has ever mentally staggered me so I can say IVE BEEN...MENTALLY FUCKED. this sounds ridiculous but I've actually gotten the impression some people DO feel like this after a particularly complex and deep movie. I just get contemplative but based on armchair research of okay i'll admit it mostly SA posts whenever a confusing movie comes out there are like twenty psyduck emoticons and I've never done that unless the movie was so awful it gave me a fauxheadache.

so I've never PSYDUCKED over a movie and I've often thought using sex imagery like "a smooth fuck to the senses" or whatever that horrible movie guy said about Watchmen is the same as saying nothing at all so I'm going to assume by FUCKED by a movie we mean confused me enough that I reached no conclusions whatsoever about the film, or whatever conclusions I did were really shakey and I knew it.

and in that context I would argue actually if I could say one movie that could qualify is not Mulholland Drive which I've felt has an explanation, however not PROVEN, for every scene, would be one of Lynch's weaker films Eraserhead. I think it was his first film filmed on an incredibly difficult EVERYTHING and so it's beyond impressive for that but I would be lying if I didn't think he deliberately didn't stick some stuff in there knowing there wasn't anything to it.

this is unfortunately an individual distinction I guess. it would basically be any movie you are pretty certain has at least one or two scenes deliberately made to engender confusion rather than alternate thoughts.

I would however more importantly argue that this is a LOT less common than people think. to the extent I would put only Eraserhead in it, but admit I haven't seen much of Lynch's other works. the simple fact is the idea of the art film that makes no goddam sense is really not as common as people like to think; it just makes sense in a way we haven't figured out or is deliberately supposed to ask you to make sense of it. but I think Eraserhead was just immature enough to throw things in that aren't just I THINK ITS THIS but I THINK ITS THIS BECAUSE EVERY POSSIBLE ANSWER IS PROBABLY RIGHT SINCE THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY CLUE TO ANYTHING.

I'm not sure if that made sense and really almost all of this is MINDFUCK FIGHTCLUB is the stupidest shit when they TELL YOU what happened and same with Jacob's Ladder and if you are mindfucked by a plot twist Dumbledore dies aneurism.

you are taking advantage of the fact i cant stop talking about shit but its okay.

Yeah, I used to be obsessed with Battle Royale. I read the novel many many times, got all the manjahs and the movies..

But now that I think about it, the story is just really cheesy, it's interesting but idk.

Watched this crazy ass French horror film called Martyrs. It's about this girl held captive her whole life. A few years after escaping (I assume), she tracks her captors down and goes to town on their asses with a shotgun! Within the first 20 minutes, she's murdered their whole family. The first half of the movie is your generic KILL PEOPLE horror movie, which isn't a bad thing. It's well directed and raw as fuck! When we reach the midway point, the film flips itself on its head and goes down a completely different road. A fucking mental PSYCHO road! I won't ruin it by hinting at anything, but I highly recommend you check it out if you like your horror movies.

recommendation btw for everyone but grindie who gets confused by the difference between push and pull signs on doors

Hah! You're still sore about that whole "I don't like your stupid film" thing, eh? Jesus! Get over it already! Or just get better taste in films.

Didn't like Fanboys that much either. I wanted to like it so bad, but thought it was just flat. Didn't laugh once.

Now the guards in George Lucas' house, were they s'posed to be T1000s?

finally watched WE ARE THE STRANGE. i really didn't follow the storyline. i did enjoy the art though. it had a cool style to it. i don't think i could watch it all the way through unless i was on like acid or something....

i also watched MAGNOLIA recently. i have to admit, i was hoping for an ending that tied everything together better... it was alright though. entertaining. i liked how the sound was layered so much. sometimes there'd be some kind of annoying sound, music and talking all at once. it was kind of annoying, but kind of cool also. i thought the dialogue was kind of... REAL-seeming, rather than the rehearsed feel you usually get in movies. it was kind of refreshing, but kind of sticks in your head less. it seemed like it intentionally didn't follow the rules that movies usually follow, but this kind of made it harder to watch... hm. anyone else have an opinion on this movie?

babel

i thought the title was ironic but it really did feel like i was incurring gods wrath. i honestly thought it was meant to be ironic though because there weren't ever any language barriers! brad pitt had to talk through a translator for a scene and the deaf girl didn't know what people were saying unless she could see them, and she also didn't get music. that was it! any other barrier was social or physical (country borders) and that the barriers weren't the same or even related very closely made any theme messy at best. for a long time (it's a long movie) i thought it was going to be about how kids dealt with death and death as a universal language, then brad pitts wife dies and i thought maybe it was about how adults and children don't deal with death all too differently. then that japanese girl is just sort of doing her own thing.
nothing is overarching at all, unless you want to see a bunch of horrible stories linked loosely together by horrible plot devices for a really long time don't watch this movie! maybe i missed something major but i read the review in the tv guide afterwards, just in case it said something relavatory and it said something like "brilliant movie with a complex plot line about language barriers"

every single step of the plot was revealed really really clearly, it's not complex to hop around in time a bit especially when you're covering several different time zones. what. trash.