Just so you guys know a new patch has been released that fixed many of the big issues.

General

    * Fixed Survivors being able to climb surfaces marked for versus infected only
    * Fixed a class of SurvivorBot bugs dealing with rescuing downed players
    * Players can no longer grab ladders while flying through the air after a Tank punch
    * Shooting near a car with an alarm that has already fired the alarm will no longer make chirping noises
    * Improved loading time
    * Fixed mini-gun physics exploit
    * Fixed propane tanks (and other physics objects) causing players to fall through elevators
    * Fixed rare achievement bug issues
    * Fixed several map exploits
    * Fixed various match making issues
    * Fixed NAT traversal issues


Versus Changes

    * Added HUD elements to show status of other infected players
    * Changed color of infected player name in chat to red
    * Fixed exploit where players could spawn infected bots
    * Fixed instance where a Survivor changing to the infected team would be attacked by infected bots
    * Normalized special infected melee damage
    * Made the following client commands cheat protected: "Kill" and "explode"
    * Fixed exploit where infected players could run away and teleport back to gain health
    * Players can only change teams once per map
    * Players can't change teams while other players are still loading
    * Tank spawns at the same % through the map for both teams in versus mode
    * Made the Tank and Witch spawn directly on the escape route
    * Increased chance of getting the Tank or Witch
    * Fixed team swap issue


Hunter

    * Easier to pounce a Survivor who is meleeing
    * Increased Minimum damage a Hunter pounce does


Smoker

    * Fixed Smoker tongue tolerance
    * Smoker now has to be killed or the tongue destroyed for the tongue to break
    * Survivor's cannot bash someone off the tongue until the Survivor being pulled is paralyzed or hanging
    * Tongue attacks that fail to paralyze or hang a Survivor will use the shorter ability delay timer
    * Fixed cases where the ability timer was not using the correct time
    * Fixed case where you could point at a Survivor but not register a tongue hit
    * Fixed Smoker tongue not targeting and landing properly through PZ ghosts
    * Smoker tongue does damage every second while dragging paralyzed Survivors


Tank

    * Bashable objects now appear with a red glow
    * Tanks hitting a car with an alarm disables the alarm permanently
    * Tank frustration timer is only reset by hitting Survivors with rocks or fists
    * Reduced autoshotgun damage against Tanks


Witch

    * Witch spawns at the same % through the map for both teams
    * Avoids spawning within a certain % of the tank
    * Fixed an exploit where the Witch could be woken up and tricked into attacking Survivors

That's awesome... So now the question is, when is the DLC coming out!!!?

I haven't played in 2 months or so, what the hell is the hold up?

Downloadable content. They are planning on new weapons and maps for the DLC.

They decreased the damage from the auto shotgun on the tank...wow. They definitely needed to put the tanks and witches at the same spot, and the Smoker needed an improvement. I'll play right now and see if things are better.

And I'm so glad the exploits are gone.

DRUNK LEFT 4 DEAD ROCKS

wooooooo!!

Autoshotty was the only way I ever survived the tank

Now I have to.........................L2P L4D

the exploiters are all shitting their pants now, I can't tell how many times some have still tried to bash the nm3 door or had a moment of silence at the ramp boxes in nm5.

infected also win like 3 out of 5 games now as opposed to 1 out of 5.

The ramp one is even worse, though. It's never a good idea to be across the map (no matter how good your spot is) and having your health kits and ammo on the other side. And having to coordinate your team to go back and forth between hordes wears you out more than you think.

The exploits that people actually used was the one where you could spawn dozens of special infected and the elevator glitch. The elevator one was usually just for a good laugh even though it's dumb, but I found myself doing it a few times just to see peoples reaction.

bashing the door is hardly even an exploit. theres almost no tactical advantage to it other than not calling a horde but they are STANDING STILL for a while so they'll probably get boomed at least twice and have multiple hunter pounces or pulls.

it skips 1/4th of the level and skips like 4 hordes worth of zombies, it also removes crossing the roof which is one of the few fantastic smoker positions in the entire campaign.

If you have 4 survivors in a corner that is also covered by a truck what difference does a boomer make? How would you even manage to boom them? It's a position where you can hear a boomer from a mile away, you could jump from the roof, sure, but they'll just shoot you before you touch the ground because of the falling noise. If you spawn behind the truck you still need to jump on the platform to get close enough at which point you've already given away your whereabouts.

Hunters and smokers would just delay the inevitable. People say that you can lay a great trap behind the door but how is that a good spot (or better than most) at all is beyond me, it's just another narrow corridor.

it doesn't skip a fourth of the level at all dude. it skips like GOING DOWN ONE SET OF STAIRS which is optional in the first place (you can just go out the windows of any of the top rooms) and going across the roof which is a good smoke position but there are many other opportunities to smoke as well (the hole in second level, behind any witch, out the window in the same level, etc)

Sure it does skip 1/4th of the level.

If somone would ask me to deal the level into roughly the same sized portions I would deal it like this:

1. The starting area, including the tier2 spawn off the main route and the cafe (I think its a cafe)
2. The loading docks area all the way into the warehouse
3. Warehouse + the passage into sewers
4. Sewers + No Mercy entrance

Now instead of fighting your way through a huge horde via going through the lift event, you can go through the door with no zombies whatsoever. You don't expose yourself to any risks as opposed to going through the roof area and then you have the spot where you have to drop down which is also a great place to pick off the last guy (I don't know if you can blast through the ceiling in that part).

With the lift event the zombies just keep coming for several minutes. It has great potential to greatly weaken or even kill the survivors, but now you have them going through the door into what is just another corridor where you can make a 10 damage pounce at best.

But it's been fixed now so who cares.