btw ubuntu is p. good i recommend it 2000000x. it is a pain in the ass to set up but once it is running it runs like a mac in terms of not crashing.

althoughn it sucks for games. but i dont do gaming. gaming is for children anyway

That's a whole other market that apple aint interested in. Their business model is not "let's get mac os on every computer", its more about targeting specific sections of the consumer and professional markets and turning a larger profit by selling the whole hardware/software package.

You can't pick and choose markets when you are refering to Apple surpassing Microsoft.  That wikipedia article keeping track of market shares isn't picking and choosing what sectors of the market it is polling.  They just report on what OSes are used while people browse the internet, whether it is in the personal, or business sector.

the point isnt that though. the point is that mac targets faggot hipsters and people who like shiny things and their buisness model is basically that.

btw ubuntu is p. good i recommend it 2000000x. it is a pain in the ass to set up but once it is running it runs like a mac in terms of not crashing.

Yeah they did a really good job with that. If I didn't specifically need ms excel for work I'd probably use ubuntu.

the point isnt that though. the point is that mac targets faggot hipsters and people who like shiny things and their buisness model is basically that.

and now microsoft is targeting faggot hipsters too, as well as trying to trick people by saying that the only reason they didn't like vista is because they were using it wrong

microsoft's commercials are getting worse than the mac ones now (and the mac ones were bad to begin with)

You can't pick and choose markets when you are refering to Apple surpassing Microsoft.  That wikipedia article keeping track of market shares isn't picking and choosing what sectors of the market it is polling.  They just report on what OSes are used while people browse the internet, whether it is in the personal, or business sector.

The point is that they are only out to make money and they're doing a pretty good job by running a specific business model. Blitzing the marketplace by buying out competition and putting their software on as many systems as possible just isn't what apple as a corporation has ever wanted to do.

idk I thought the "im a pc and I don't like tweed" etc commercials were a pretty good response to the mac ads. I probably haven't seen all of the new pc/windows commercials tho, I don't watch much tv.

idk I thought the "im a pc and I don't like tweed" etc commercials were a pretty good response to the mac ads. I probably haven't seen all of the new pc/windows commercials tho, I don't watch much tv.

man they are the worst, how do you like them?

I'M A PC AND I'M AN ASTRONAUT....(pssst mac users aren't astronauts!)

I'M A PC AND I DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T INFLUENCE WHAT COMPUTER I USE AT ALL

and then the mojave ones are just WAIT SO THIS WAS VISTA ALL ALONG?  HUH...GUESS I WASN'T USING IT RIGHT which doesn't say much for your OS!

mamybe you missed the beginning of the commercial. it says "I'm a PC and I've been made into a stereotype"

it's not that those people can't use macs too, it shows that pretty much any "kind of person" can use a PC and some of them might be pretty cool? I'm a PC and I design green buildings.

also how could you hold that against the PC commercial when that's exactly what the mac commercials have always done, except they're targeting dumb young people with their mac guy.

The point is that they are only out to make money and they're doing a pretty good job by running a specific business model. Blitzing the marketplace by buying out competition and putting their software on as many systems as possible just isn't what apple as a corporation has ever wanted to do.

I'm not saying Apple isn't doing a good job!  I agree that they are, even though I find those "I'm a Mac" commercials insufferable.  I'm just referring to the OP that was implying that Apple was on the verge of dominating the market while Microsoft scrambles to recoup.  This just isn't the case because in the business sector Apple can't really touch Microsoft (right now).

I'M A PC AND I DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T INFLUENCE WHAT COMPUTER I USE AT ALL

*personally identifies with  consumer electronics*

and now microsoft is targeting faggot hipsters too, as well as trying to trick people by saying that the only reason they didn't like vista is because they were using it wrong

microsoft's commercials are getting worse than the mac ones now (and the mac ones were bad to begin with)

Have you seen the new MAc ads? The fix Vista/ pay for advertising commercial is stupid. Firstly because Mac keeps playing the "Vista is a broken OP" even though Vista is pretty good after the first SP. Secondly because Microsoft has a shit ton of money and can afford to through together a couple of commercials, and I've seen way more Mac ads on TV than Windows ads.

Lol no matter how cool apple tries to be, ill always think of it as a company founded by a couple nerds in their mom's garage

also how could you hold that against the PC commercial when that's exactly what the mac commercials have always done, except they're targeting dumb young people with their mac guy.

you and some other people in this thread missed the part where i said the mac commercials are awful, they are all awful it's just that for some reason people don't hate the microsoft ones for being just as awful (and use the mac commercials as a reason for macs being bad when the windows ones are ALSO BAD)

i dunno, their iLife programs and professional stuff like Logic or Final Cut Pro are pretty awesome

I hate taking photographs and making movies I mean any time I find some software that I'd actually use it's always Windows

Actually I read that some (many?) of those children laptops started using Windows, and that open source people are upset about it.

hahaha

well when I saw the pictures of the OS for it it looked like something for special children imo

although I read something like Max/MSP or one of those programs was packaged with the XOs and I was hoping there would be an emerging African IDM scene 20 years from now

you and some other people in this thread missed the part where i said the mac commercials are awful, they are all awful it's just that for some reason people don't hate the microsoft ones for being just as awful (and use the mac commercials as a reason for macs being bad when the windows ones are ALSO BAD)

they aren't tho, like I said the premise of the pc commercials is to counter the stereotypes created by the mac ads and show that anybody can use PCs, not just out of touch old fat businessmen. they're good commercials because they make the mac's v. successful ads look bad.

well i am still a proud user of the legacy Windows XP

Windows XP was good... then it sucked ass... now it's great.

It was good when it came out because it was a nice step-up from the shit-fest that was ME.
It sucked ass when spyware started becoming really popular because it was infecting everyone's computers and no one knew what the fuck was going on or why their computer was running like turd on a snail.
Now it's great because it is a champ when it comes to performance and Vista is a slug on old machines.

But I love Vista... I actually use a lot of it's nice features. XP is okay but I often run into situations where I wish I was using Vista instead.

they aren't tho, like I said the premise of the pc commercials is to counter the stereotypes created by the mac ads and show that anybody can use PCs, not just out of touch old fat businessmen. they're good commercials because they make the mac's v. successful ads look bad.

no one but hipsters who have their heads so far up their asses that they can't see what os they're using anyway believe the stereotype though!  the mac ads are awful for trying to make this stereotype, but the windows ads don't COUNTER the stereotype because it really doesn't EXIST, no one pictures windows users as that boring businessman, they picture them as THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE

all the windows ads do is go HEY.....LOTS OF PEOPLE USE PCs......, but lots of people use macs too so they're BOTH wrong in the way they're approaching this