Topic: The Decline Of Microsoft and the Proposed Rise of MAC (Read 3678 times)

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they're BOTH wrong in the way they're approaching this
I think we can all agree that marketing is probably some of the most counterproductive and repulsive shit ever
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I think we can all agree that marketing is probably some of the most counterproductive and repulsive shit ever

Pretty much this.
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still makes the mac ads look bad tho! the mac ads are making a stereotype even if nobody believes it (?). and a lot of people buy macs because of the ads, not just awful hipsters.

yeah marketing is terrible. I actually just had an assignment on this that had some pretty good ads, lemme see if I can dig them up

edit: picked this one cuz it's funny and has a shout out
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still makes the mac ads look bad tho! the mac ads are making a stereotype even if nobody believes it (?). and a lot of people buy macs because of the ads, not just awful hipsters.

I don't see how one bad ad trying to make another look bad somehow makes the first ad good, which is what you were saying.

Also I've never, ever heard of anyone buying a Mac because of the ad.  Ever.  Awful hipsters were already going to buy Macs (to stick it to The MAN by buying into another The Man), they are just the only people who go "YEAH...THAT MAC GUY IS ME AND PCS ARE GAY", and they were already like that man! 

The Mac ads make hipsters go "YEAH THAT'S ME PC SUCKS."
The Windows ads make other people go "YEAH THAT'S ME MAC SUCKS."

Tell me how these are different.
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Windows XP was good... then it sucked ass... now it's great.

It was good when it came out because it was a nice step-up from the shit-fest that was ME.
It sucked ass when spyware started becoming really popular because it was infecting everyone's computers and no one knew what the fuck was going on or why their computer was running like turd on a snail.
Now it's great because it is a champ when it comes to performance and Vista is a slug on old machines.

But I love Vista... I actually use a lot of it's nice features. XP is okay but I often run into situations where I wish I was using Vista instead.
Well to be honest, I am writing this on a desktop with Vista and so far it's given me a breezy experience. But I also have a laptop with Vista and another with XP. The Vista laptop is way too glitchy. Not to mention the performance still sucked harder on an AMD Turion 2X, 2GB RAM and a 7150M card than Windows XP on Pentium M, 1GB RAM, and a crappy Intel graphics card.
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still makes the mac ads look bad tho! the mac ads are making a stereotype even if nobody believes it (?). and a lot of people buy macs because of the ads, not just awful hipsters.

yeah marketing is terrible. I actually just had an assignment on this that had some pretty good ads, lemme see if I can dig them up

edit: picked this one cuz it's funny and has a shout out

hahahaha "what type of reader is this ad trying to reach?" I can't help but to smile real big when I think of someone seriously asking that question about that ad.
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I don't see how one bad ad trying to make another look bad somehow makes the first ad good, which is what you were saying.

Also I've never, ever heard of anyone buying a Mac because of the ad.  Ever.  Awful hipsters were already going to buy Macs (to stick it to The MAN by buying into another The Man), they are just the only people who go "YEAH...THAT MAC GUY IS ME AND PCS ARE GAY", and they were already like that man! 

The Mac ads make hipsters go "YEAH THAT'S ME PC SUCKS."
The Windows ads make other people go "YEAH THAT'S ME MAC SUCKS."

Tell me how these are different.

they started it.... :sweat:
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I don't see how one bad ad trying to make another look bad somehow makes the first ad good, which is what you were saying.

Also I've never, ever heard of anyone buying a Mac because of the ad.  Ever.  Awful hipsters were already going to buy Macs (to stick it to The MAN by buying into another The Man), they are just the only people who go "YEAH...THAT MAC GUY IS ME AND PCS ARE GAY", and they were already like that man! 

The Mac ads make hipsters go "YEAH THAT'S ME PC SUCKS."
The Windows ads make other people go "YEAH THAT'S ME MAC SUCKS."

Tell me how these are different.
well in addition to all I've already said, those windows ads don't actually mention macs. the ads aren't the same at all

also look up how much better macs have been selling since they started running those ads?? every college kid has a mac. I'd talk about my chem lab here but I'm afraid Dada is lurking the thread waiting for me to drop some anecdotal evidence.
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hahahaha "what type of reader is this ad trying to reach?" I can't help but to smile real big when I think of someone seriously asking that question about that ad.
idk I just like the milk bottle.

it was an assignment about GENDER so half the ads were like this one and the other half had a passive/submissive woman
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well in addition to all I've already said, those windows ads don't actually mention macs. the ads aren't the same at all

also look up how much better macs have been selling since they started running those ads?? every college kid has a mac. I'd talk about my chem lab here but I'm afraid Dada is lurking the thread waiting for me to drop some anecdotal evidence.

You already said it was a response, you don't have to say anything about Macs to KNOW it's about Macs (you already admitted it does).  Also, once again, I am not defending the Mac ads, the whole WINDOWS IS BROKEN thing is pretty worn out.  However, that does not make the Windows ads better.  The Windows ads are doing the same exact shit while pretending they aren't.  They're equally bad, that's all there is to it.

Also man, I don't believe that those ads are the reason college kids have Macs.  I think it has WAY more to do with sales of iPods and other similar products bringing Apple back into the spotlight.
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here's a funny little stuffwhitepeoplelike article on apple products that some of you may not have seen

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It is surprising that it took all the way to #40 to call out Apple products. Initially, we were planning for an entire week on Apple products, but that would just be over kill.

Plain and simple, white people don’t just like Apple, they love and need Apple to operate.

On the surface, you would ask yourself, how is that white people love a multi-billion dollar company with manufacturing plants in China, mass production, and that contributes to global pollution through the manufacture of consumer electronic devices?

Simple answer: Apple products tell the world you are creative and unique. They are an exclusive product line only used by every white college student, designer, writer, English teacher, and hipster on the planet.

You see, a long time ago Apple’s were super popular among layout artists and graphic designers. Then Apple released Final Cut Pro and became the standard for film editors. As a result, lots of creative industries used Apple computers instead of PCs. Eventually, people started making the connection, and all of a sudden all white people need to have a Mac.

When you ask white people about Mac’s they will say “oh, it’s so much better than Windows,” “it’s just easier to use,” “they are so cutting edge,” and so forth. What’s amazing is that white people NEED to meet people who use Windows to justify themselves spending an extra $500 for a pretty looking machine.

It is also important that white people are reminded of their creativity, and remember you need a Mac to creatively check email, creatively check websites, and creatively watch DVDs on planes.

White people also need iPods, iPhones, Apple TV, AirPort Express stations, and anything else that Apple will produce. Because you need to express your uniqueness by purchasing everything that a publicly traded company produces.

Apple products also come with stickers. Some people put them on their computer, some people put them on windows, but to take it to the pinnacle of whiteness, you need to put the Apple sticker in the rear window of your Prius, Jetta, BMW, Subaru 4WD Station Wagon or Audi. You then need to drive to a local coffee shop (Starbucks will do in a pinch) and set up your apple for the world to see. Thankfully, the Apple logo on the back will light up! So even in a dark place, people can see how unique and creative you (and the five other people doing the exact same thing) truly are!

Knowledge of Apple products can be useful in a number of social situations. If you see a white person with a Mac, an easy way to approach them is to say “Is that a Powerbook? What OS do you have?” They will happily start talking to you, after the requisite five minutes, you can invite them to an 80s night.
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Do they really come with stickers??
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I'll not TAKE ANYTHING you write like this seriously because it looks dumb
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Do they really come with stickers??

Yeah, the iPods do too.  Mostly unrelated, I think Unreal Tournament 2k4 came with Atari stickers and those rocked.  I wish I had some more of those.
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the PC ads mock the mac ads, but they don't touch mac users. the PC ads give the impression of going against stereotypes rather than creating them. they both attempt to identify their product with the people who use it, but they do so differently. they both are advertising something, they both use people and neither of them show the product. idc which is better because it's kind of subjective and they both are good at advertising their product, but the mac ads could objectively be judged more aggressive and stereotyping.

nice article dietcoke. replace macs with vitamin water, volkswagens, idk what other shit is hip
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I've got both, I use both for different shit, they're both computers. I still prefer Windows XP for it's decade and some of familiarity.

I will give it to Apple that Final Cut Pro HD kicks the shit out of the competition.
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http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/30/39-apple-products/ heh

I never thought Apple had any significant part of the computer market until I got to college, so I think a lot of this sudden PC IS DYING vibe might be coming from the fact that white college students are obsessed with MacBooks and they're FUCKING EVERYWHERE (especially at RICH PEOPLE SCHOOLS like mine)
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i scrolled too fast and the new kanye album was playing and right when i read "Welcome to Mac" he said '...welcome to heartbreak" and my eyes went O_o so basically im in the hospital now because one of my eyeballs? dislocated. welcome to macs.
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The ability to run most games and the better networking/server capabilities Windows has means that Windows will continue to dominate over Mac when it comes to the gaming and business sector. Macs might rise in popularity with those who don't need gaming/business capabilities (casual users), but because people will be exposed to Windows more through schooling/employment it is likely to keep on dominating with those who use their PC (Macs ARE personal computers and therefore ARE PC's nimrods...) for more than making squirrel movies...

The popularity of Macs is more a trend than it is anything to do with the reliability/superiority of the system and is linked almost exclusively to the iPod and iPhone. Vista was a failure but XP is still vastly popular compared to any Mac OS (especially in the business sector) and a new Windows OS is just around the corner.
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(Macs ARE personal computers and therefore ARE PC's nimrods...) for more than making squirrel movies...

wow this post went downhill fast
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the better networking/server capabilities Windows has
This is a serious joke. Like Diet coke says, linux, bsd and osx are miles ahead of microsoft on this front. This is one of the main reasons linux is so popular in universities, with scientists and in research centres.
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