Topic: Israel attacks UN Aid convoy with a tank, bombs UN aid shelter Gaza deathtoll up to close to 600 (Read 18032 times)

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chainer been watching too much hellsing.

goddam thats a good burn. pat on the back.
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so are hospitals, bags of food, and children

yeah but there is really no other strategical reason to do that

Edit: nah my dad is Ex military and thats the first thing he said when I mentioned the graves. but I think I actually shocked him when I told him they were using phosphorus shells
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jews are being attacked in france and elgnald. atempted arson and shit at synagogues.

also I just read in private eye today(every england person should read it) about how in 2008 Israel did a massive arms buildup like first few months of 2008(jan-marc) was twice as big money spent on weapons than the whole of 2007, so it is pretty clear they have had something planned for some while.
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Israel is still pretty disgusting at this point, I'm just saying that it's not without it's purpose.

What purpose?  I was on the "both sides suck" bandwagon but after I looked at the casualty statistics seriously what purpose?

Israel is literally wiping the floor with these guys.  Hamas is a rag and Gaza is the floor and Israel is the binge drinking college kid who just puked all over it.  Nothing is even being gained from this.  Outside of the farmland (lol) there's hardly any natural resources in the Gaza strip and its only purpose is acting as a stepping stool into Israel. The war in Iraq was secretly (lol) about getting oil with the "FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISTS" war banner but Israel's excuse is "we gotta stop them inaccurate rocket attacks/fire works shows *executes child on camera* HOW MANY PEOPLE MUST WE KILL BEFORE YOU STOP THE ROCKETS HAMAS C'MON *burns bag of grain and poisons water*"

They might as well piss on the graves after blowing them up.  At least then the flowers will be nourished.
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what graves? I think them israelis would fucking just massdump them or something. It's a totl disregrd for human life and it's fucking disgusting.
it's really gross watching georgewbursh's speach because he kinda totally ignores everything and just says hamas should stop rockets. FUCK DUDE what if america was taken over, what then bud would you be like OH WHELP ENJOY SUBHUMAN CONDITIONS? nah disenfranchised pepole cause riots ans shit, but people treated like shit agaist inmperialistic oppressors fucking try to do whatever they can, if rockets are all HAmas can do to bring situation to light then fuck rocket the bastards.

man I'm english and I know my country has done some terrible shit, it's why I feel uncomfortable posting in topics about this as I was once right wing (lol right wing-.english libertarian->socialist->card carrying commie) and I feel terrible for what my country has done to bpeople, nd to know that england was one of the dudes responsible tfor israel is really fucking horrible.
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What purpose?  I was on the "both sides suck" bandwagon but after I looked at the casualty statistics seriously what purpose?

Israel is literally wiping the floor with these guys.  Hamas is a rag and Gaza is the floor and Israel is the binge drinking college kid who just puked all over it.  Nothing is even being gained from this.  Outside of the farmland (lol) there's hardly any natural resources in the Gaza strip and its only purpose is acting as a stepping stool into Israel. The war in Iraq was secretly (lol) about getting oil with the "FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISTS" war banner but Israel's excuse is "we gotta stop them inaccurate rocket attacks/fire works shows *executes child on camera* HOW MANY PEOPLE MUST WE KILL BEFORE YOU STOP THE ROCKETS HAMAS C'MON *burns bag of grain and poisons water*"

They might as well piss on the graves after blowing them up.  At least then the flowers will be nourished.

You're right Marcus. Pointing out the strategic element behind a decision like bombing a graveyard to a person who is using it to illustrate the fact that Israel is doing horrible things does make me an apologist, or at the very least, some sort of middleground bandwagoner (Does this even exist btw? I thought the majority was anti Israel). Sorry for not condemning everything Israel outright.
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point being soon there isn't going to be anything left for them to bomb.  there's rules of engagement regarding modern warfare and while this may sound like the biggest oxymoron in the world all developed nations pretty much agreed to it so they have to live by it.  blowing up civilian sectors for whatever reason has no purpose.  if they really want the guns they can send some soldiers in their take them.  just blowing up the shit up (which most likely has a mosque or something close by and religion sites are a natural place to hide) goes against everything we as humans try to stand for. 

this just isn't a war or a conflict or a massacre it's pretty much genocide under the guise of "anti-terrorism."  israel should just come clean with a "truthfully we want as many of those assholes dead... really that's it."
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Did I post in this thread without realising it or something..? Because I'm pretty sure I didn't post here yet, so why I am being mentioned escapes me. In fact, the whole reason I didn't post here was because of this type of attitude; I could say anything in defence and, no matter how valid, it would be rubbished just because I happen to support Israel.

To be honest, I don't know what you're actually talking about since I haven't heard anything on the news about illegal weapons. You'd have to link me up.

Maybe its because you don't know what the fucking current events of the situation are, that you have such an ignorant, and blind support for israel who continue to over and over again violate international laws and consistently perpetrate human rights violations and commit war crimes not just over their 2 week genocide of Palestinians but for the past 60 years.. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because of your lack of awareness of what is really happening there.

Israel AGAIN found using illegal weapons:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=81564&sectionid=351020202

For the lazy folks:

Geneva convention laws broken over and over again...

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You're right, I should have come to expect that in this corrupted world of ours ruled by state terrorists. Silly me. (not sarcasm btw)

Also, thousands of Israelis protest against the genocide against Palestinians in Gaza:

http://www.meccho.com/Videos/Thousands_of_Israelis_protest_against_the_war_in_Gaza

This is great. I love informative people..

EDIT: Also, edit the topic title please. Death toll of Palestinians is probably well over 1,000 now... 3/4 innocent civilians, 1/3 children..

And now this shit:

Israel forces shell UN HQ in Gaza, destroy thousands of pounds of food and supplies intended for refugees

This is just....utterly disgusting.

Another report on this: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/2009115153549143408.html

Still call yourself a fucking israeli supporter even after all of this bullshit? Should I show pictures of all of the dead children also? (Even though Wash Cycle already did that)..

Almost 1,100 Palestinians have died.... 400+ were innocent children, another few hundred were innocent women... Another few hundred were innocent men... Almost 3/4 of the Palestinians killed within 2 WEEKS were civilians. That DOESN'T EVEN ACCOUNT for all of the INNOCENTS THAT DIED BY BEING VAPORIZED by the explosions and BURIED under rubble that were unaccounted for, as Marcus pointed out.

Talking to you people (blind and ignorant israeli supporters) who turn a complete blind eye on all of this shit by not keeping up with the current events is so frustrating man.. Even though I took a break from this topic due to being busy with life, etc, etc; I come back and still see these ignorant comments that shows no intelligence whatsoever. You keep making excuses for this corrupted zionist regime by making up lies and distorting all of the facts, and to lie your way through justifying the crimes that israel has committed. It's absolutely disgusting, its making me sick to my stomach.

One last thing, guys please pay your respects. This list has all of the ACCOUNTED FOR dead Palestinian children in the 2 week Gaza genocide:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200911591418168902.html

Quote from: Al Jazeera
At least 300 children are among the more than 1,000 Palestinians who have died since Israel began to bombard the Gaza Strip on December 27.

Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 12:05:46 am by Revolutionist
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I also want to make something perfectly clear from the UN Headquarters bombing that destroyed tens of millions of dollars of aid for surviving Palestinians:

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Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, justified shelling the UN headquarters claiming armed Palestinians within it had fired at Israeli troops first.

"It is absolutely true that we were attacked from that place … but the consequences were very sad and I apologise for it," he said.

However, Christopher Gunness, a spokesman for Unrwa, robustly denied that Palestinian fighters were among refugees sheltering there.

"At no stage during the fighting today did any Israeli official pick up the phone and tell us there were militants in our compound.

"We always take action against militants ... there were no militants in our compound and now they [the Israelis] are changing their story, saying militants were 'in the vicinity'," he said.

Gunness called for a "proper investigation" into the incident.

Louis Michel, the European Aid Commissioner, also condemned the bombing of the UN complex, branding it "unacceptable".

"I am deeply shocked and dismayed to learn of this incident ... I have made it very clear that all sides must respect international humanitarian law.

"It is unacceptable that the UN headquarters in Gaza has been struck by Israeli artillery fire," he said.
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Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, strongly condemned the incident and demanded a full explanation from Tzipi Livni, the Israeli foreign minister, during talks held on Thursday in Tel Aviv.

Ban said Ehud Barak, the Israeli defence minister, had apologised for the attack describing it as a "grave mistake".

A Red Crescent office near Gaza City and the main mosque in the southern city of Rafah were also shelled as the Israelis pushed deeper into the Strip.


Seems as though israel doesn't want the truth to come out of their state terrorism and human rights violations either:
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Two buildings housing international journalists in Gaza have also been bombed by Israeli forces.
Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 12:13:25 am by Revolutionist
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man, you are annoying as hell. you have the RELIGIOUS FERVOR AND INTENSITY of conservative-era Truth and even though i think you're on the right side of the issue, please quit posting in this topic.
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i disagree i think his posts are fine. you're mistaking truth's zealous HAMAS SUPPORT with zeal against Israel.

dont be a shadow kirby ryan! of course revolutionist is mad, there are several posts talking about the use of illegal weapons and instead fallen griever pulls some "heh i never posted you're mad because i love israel PROVE THE WEAPONS" bullshit.

I've never seen Marcus tread across the line of "there's a middle ground" until this topic and some dude is not only not just saying "middle ground" he's saying he supports Israel. this reminds me of when panda imed me and basically said "I don't even know fuckall about the history here but how dumb do you have to be to support Israel when they are blowing up 900+ people including children in exchange for worthless sugar rockets that barely hurt anyone let alone killed?" and then GW proved him right by saying "THIS DUMB!"

of course he's passionate about it when people are wholesale slaughtering other people of your own faith you tend to get a little IRKED.

basically if you support Israel in this you're a fucking idiot, open your wrists. I will mail you the razor.

edit: Bush speech is today isn't it?
Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 12:42:55 am by Magical Negro
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man, you are annoying as hell. you have the RELIGIOUS FERVOR AND INTENSITY of conservative-era Truth and even though i think you're on the right side of the issue, please quit posting in this topic.

I don't give a damn if you think the truth is annoying or not. I'm going to continue posting in this topic to show current events... And 'religious fervor and intensity'? Where the fuck have I said anything religious in my latest post? Read your own damn posts before posting annoying garbage. Your 'quit posting' posts to people is pretty fucking annoying
Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 12:45:26 am by Revolutionist
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hey guy lets face it you've built up this image of ISLAM: THE BEST already and balls if you don't think so, he's not completely off base when he says you get worked up about this kind of shit. I'm just saying in this case you got a right to be worked up about it!

also when have you last said something religious? January 5th, 2009:

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A statement such as this shows your total lack of knowledge in Islamic Fiqh, Qu'ranic Tafseers and the context of Sahih Ahadeeth. Talk to credible scholars such as Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah, Imam Zaid Shakir or Shaykh Hamzah Yusuf and they'll completely tear you apart with a bullshit statement such as that. I didn't buy into no 'propaganda bullshit'. I have lived both lives. The life of a Christian and the life of a Muslim. As a person who has had first hand experience in living both lives, I can clearly see the vast amount of differences in the two religions. What Soulmann said was one of the major examples with the whole trinity aspect. There are various other major differences that will take too long to explain here.
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Yeah but I was talking about my recent post(s) that I made this week, not something that I posted last week.  I'm now trying to avoid making posts involving religion and just stuff to do from a more secular and political view.. The recent posts I made (within a few days of now) I don't believe that I posted any posts to do with the religious aspect of this, if there is any.. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and missed a post that I made just recently that contained anything to do with religion.
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....hdgggfffff less than ten days is pretty recent in forums dogg.
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you know i don't get any satisfaction of letting people know what i think about this cos i see pictures of dying babies and i don't have anything to offer. what can i do about that? i don't want to do something futile, cos a "you should stop doing this!!!" protest won't make me feel better if it's all just noise. and that's all this seems like. noise, while babies get killed.
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Well... difference of opinion I guess.. but lets just say that since the beginning of last week, I made a conscious effort to not relate any religious topics with this crisis :)
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you know i don't get any satisfaction of letting people know what i think about this cos i see pictures of dying babies and i don't have anything to offer. what can i do about that? i don't want to do something futile, cos a "you should stop doing this!!!" protest won't make me feel better if it's all just noise. and that's all this seems like. noise, while babies get killed.

i disagree simply because of the LACK of noise. you know there are plenty of people, as in THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS, who genuinely believe Hamas aggravated Israel and are now getting JUST DESSERTS? I added this app on facebook that donates your status and basically updates it with the death toll, the point of which is to spread the word that hey, hamas is killing people. one of my friends adds it on seeing mine, and some idiot immediately posts "they deserve it for rockets, go israel!"

(I replied with "good to see you're still a rancid piece of idiotic shit alex" but thats because iiiii hate that guy!)

basically even a small protest spreads the word that this is NOT a conflict in which Israel is in the right. this is not a matter of opinion anymore!
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the bush farewell thing is tonight i guess. i'll probably watch the office instead LoL

also one of his last acts in congress is:

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Sanctity of Human Life Day!
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ahhah i read that  as a topic title and thought it was ajoke!
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