ya my wife and children were burned alive by the illegal weapons the israeli military used on us, I am making intelligent, sane decisions right now. it's friggin logic people! take a fuxxin philosophy course for cripes sake!!

People are right to point out that Hamas hadn't agreed to the ceasefire and so were under no obligation to stop firing missiles, but that wasn't my argument. My argument was that firing rockets at a stronger nation when that nation has decided to stop attacking you is a stupid decision; if a far stronger nation says it is going to stop attacking then an intelligent, sane leadership would instinctively know that it was in their best interest not to give that nation any reason to change their mind. An intelligent leadership would understand that pursuing the many diplomatic options available to them would be a better idea, especially as the diplomatic community has been clamouring for years to find a peaceful resolution. Clearly, Hamas does not have an intelligent leadership, and that was my point. Israel has absolutely nothing to lose by attacking Gaza, especially with the strong American support it has, yet Hamas has everything to lose so there is no logic in continuing to provoke Israel.

Maybe Hamas should apply some head over heart policies.

Amazing what they get away with isn't it.....
 
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People are right to point out that Hamas hadn't agreed to the ceasefire and so were under no obligation to stop firing missiles, but that wasn't my argument. My argument was that firing rockets at a stronger nation when that nation has decided to stop attacking you is a stupid decision; if a far stronger nation says it is going to stop attacking then an intelligent, sane leadership would instinctively know that it was in their best interest not to give that nation any reason to change their mind. An intelligent leadership would understand that pursuing the many diplomatic options available to them would be a better idea, especially as the diplomatic community has been clamouring for years to find a peaceful resolution. Clearly, Hamas does not have an intelligent leadership, and that was my point. Israel has absolutely nothing to lose by attacking Gaza, especially with the strong American support it has, yet Hamas has everything to lose so there is no logic in continuing to provoke Israel.

Maybe Hamas should apply some head over heart policies.

People are right to point out that Hamas hadn't agreed to the ceasefire and so were under no obligation to stop firing missiles, but that wasn't my argument. My argument was that firing rockets at a stronger nation when that nation has decided to stop attacking you is a stupid decision; if a far stronger nation says it is going to stop attacking then an intelligent, sane leadership would instinctively know that it was in their best interest not to give that nation any reason to change their mind. An intelligent leadership would understand that pursuing the many diplomatic options available to them would be a better idea, especially as the diplomatic community has been clamouring for years to find a peaceful resolution. Clearly, Hamas does not have an intelligent leadership, and that was my point. Israel has absolutely nothing to lose by attacking Gaza, especially with the strong American support it has, yet Hamas has everything to lose so there is no logic in continuing to provoke Israel.

Maybe Hamas should apply some head over heart policies.

How would diplomatic means work in this situation?  How can they TALK IT OUT?

Hamas:  Hey Israel, we want this country.
Israel:  Nah, bro, it's ours.
Hamas:  Well, dude...we definitely want it.  Can we have it?
Israel:  No way, sorry, it's ours.

The whole basis of their fighting means that they can NEVER just talk it out.

To which you'd probably just reply "heh well RETARDS why don't you just give up then you'll never win!!!  this whole organization is just DUMB i should know" but sorry the world doesn't work like that.

Diplomacy isn't about the past, it is about moving into the future. Hamas should be looking to take Gaza forward by creating a better state, and the first steps towards this are burying conflicts that are routed entirely in the past. States can not go around claiming parts of other states as their own based on historical reasoning and should instead focus on making the land they do have better for the civilians who live under them. Seriously, look at how WWII started; it was because of the attempt by Germany to retake lands that it claimed historically belonged to Germany. And I only used WWII because most people will know enough about it, other examples are scattered throughout history.

If you think Hamas has this right, the right to demand land based on historical reasons, then perhaps the Americans in this thread should be giving America back to the Natives, and the same with Australians etc. etc. etc.

Diplomacy isn't about the past, it is about moving into the future. Hamas should be looking to take Gaza forward by creating a better state, and the first steps towards this are burying conflicts that are routed entirely in the past. States can not go around claiming parts of other states as their own based on historical reasoning and should instead focus on making the land they do have better for the civilians who live under them. Seriously, look at how WWII started; it was because of the attempt by Germany to retake lands that it claimed historically belonged to Germany. And I only used WWII because most people will know enough about it, other examples are scattered throughout history.

If you think Hamas has this right, the right to demand land based on historical reasons, then perhaps the Americans in this thread should be giving America back to the Natives, and the same with Australians etc. etc. etc.

We should give it back to the native​

We should give it back to the native​