Ephiam, that looks pretty good, except for two major things: 1) it is so dark I can barely tell what is going on and 2) that weird pause between every attack would get old quick.

Shit Ed before I thought you looked a bit disgusting but now you're super handsome!

who cares about the prom anyways

I never went to the prom instead I got drunk as hell with my friends fuck the prom all it is is red carpet for tweens

Pretty sure they don't let twelve-year-olds go to prom but thanks for trying to sound badass as usual!


I took some girl to my prom who I had a crush on and she turned out to be the most boring date ever and eventually ditched me to ???
I still had a good time but there were at least two girls I knew well who ended up getting "friend dates" because nobody asked them who 100% would have said yes to me and 50% would have intercoursed me so I regret asking my boring date

Her mom was a real milf (mom I'd like to facebook) and we got along great, though!

Yeah OR he could just manually import the panorama into the folder and it can be whatever size he wanted it to be. All you do is make the image 16x whatever the size of the map is (20tilesx15tiles=320pixels x 240pixels, 40x30=640x480 or any other number you want) and presto it even shows up in the editor.

Animating it will be tricky no matter how you look at it.

that picture makes me sad

Yeah it's pretty depressing.

I have cargo shorts and I hate them more and more every time I wear them (not often).

Other than my cargo shorts I am a pretty snappy dresser, though!

I am eating a homeless person

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging#Use_of_funds

Why did you post this? It's a dubious study that, in the next sentence, is pointed out as being dubious.

If you really think that the crazy homeless people of downtown Toronto are spending more on food than they are on drugs and alcohol combined then you are ???. Nevermind how many drugs they actually use, those three things are fucking EXPENSIVE. A package of cigarettes is anywhere from $7-$10 around here, which is two days worth of food if you are concerned about spending wisely (which admittedly they are probably not). That's one package of cigarettes! Nevermind the huge costs of alcohol! I am also disregarding the cost of illegal drugs because let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

Alcohol is super expensive, and so is tobacco. I don't really care what they buy with it anyways because they are never going to buy a better life so =)

I read the book Sidewalk a couple of months ago and it was saying how some panhandlers if they go in the right spot and know what to do can make over 70 bucks in a day or so.

I have seen statistics that are a lot higher than this for Toronto but maybe they were made up?

My problem with giving money to homeless people is that it is immediately burned away, usually not on food. I work downtown and I see the same totally crazy looking homeless people day after day grumbling and sleeping on the subway and generally being stinky useless members of society. I'm not angry at them or anything, but if you argue that they are anything but useless dregs then you are dumb! I'm not a libertarian and believe that homeless people should be cared for by the society as a whole, but I just don't see the point in given them change. I am pretty cheap though!

I'm not trying to come off as a dick here but I just legitimately don't see the point in it. If someone could explain to me the end result of giving these people change I would be most obliged. Don't say "SO THEY CAN EAT YOU DICKHEAD" because there are a huge number of social systems set up to ensure they aren't dying that they aren't taking advantage of. The fact that they have a brain problem that makes them unable to accept help from giant organizations designed to give them help isn't going to be solved by me throwing some pennies at them.

edit: it is important to note that Toronto has a disproportionately high number of crazy street people to regular homeless people who need the money to survive, and they are everywhere stinkin' up the city and it has made me incredibly callous toward them. Sorry I am an asshole!

Also it is important to note that most people playing instruments, especially if you see them in the same place every day, aren't homeless people they're buskers. They have to get a license to play in that spot and pay taxes and shit. These people do this as a job and giving them money is cool (unless the suck then they should be encouraged to go away and let better street musicians play).

(only this time he didnt make it)

That's right, I didn't make it. Anyone who isn't humble about being in the Illuminati is full of shit. It's a part of my life (and can be anywhere from a major to a minor part of it depending on the day) and I embrace it wholly, and I'm just a bit sick of people constantly using it as the "go-to" organization for crazy world-controlling shit.

I am not trying to come off as a "I'm so tough I am in a secret order  ​" douchebag and if I have then I'm sorry.

What I am trying to do is dispel some of the more absurd notions about us, even if its to a relatively smallish group of people. You are looking at this like "oh it's such bs there's no way some dude is in the Illuminati" but what you have to see is that that's not weird. You've probably met lots of Masons and Illuminati members in the past, but didn't realize because it isn't something we are supposed to make a big deal out of. Even for me, I'm pretty safe behind my wall of internet anonymity, but it's not like we're forbidden from telling people we're members. It's just something we don't do very often.

We are a pretty down to Earth group, for the most part (like I said before, the younger members especially). I used to work with a Mason. If you want a group with ridiculous traditions, look at the Masons. They wear hats with horns in them and have lodges and ridiculous names for all their members and sub-members. They have secret handshakes coming out the wazoo. I don't want to come down on them too hard since they are in many ways like us, but behind their sense of community is a deep, almost religious belief in their traditional gobbledeegook which isn't present in most orders of the Illuminati. They have their secrets and we have ours, and I'm sure there is a reason they put so much more faith in their traditions that we do, but coming from my background it's hard to see what that reason might be.

Like I said, I'm just one member and of course my view of the organization is skewed by my positive experiences in it and my age and whatever other factors there may be. Ask a 60 year old order master or chapter deacon and his views would be waaaay different, but I am trying to show you that it's not as absurd as you guys (and the media and the public and the everyone else) seem to think it is.

haha for serious? what all does membership entail, i looked into freemasonry before but everything was really really vague

It's a pretty nepotistic group, just like the Masons. The best way is simply to know someone very well who is in the Illuminati- for me it was a girlfriend from a long time ago who remained a close friend after we broke up. Her parents were members, and she was a member, and she asked me if I'd like to join after we had been broken up for awhile. Her parents really liked me, so I think that had something to do with it. We're still close friends, and I think us both being members has really tightened that bond over time. Very rarely my chapter will invite someone from the outside to join, because trust is a major issue for us. I mean, it's no secret we exist, but there are lots of things we're meant to be hush hush about. We've had to take legal action a few times in a past, but literally only a few times, as a testament to how much we vet people before allowing them to join. Most of the secrets are pretty benign, especially the ones revealed to more junior members, but a lot of the time it's the principle of the thing. Like I said, trust is a major issue.

why did you join in the first place, i mean to me it seems pretty dumb. like what does being in this pretentious group offer you that hanging out with friends that dont wear dresses doesnt

I don't really see how it's pretentious at all. Some of the most senior members wear robes but I've certainly never had to do that. In fact, the only time I've ever seen someone in a robe up close was when I was inducted into my chapter. The main reason I joined is for a sense of sort of global community. I've stayed with members from different chapters who were in the same order as mine overseas before. I knew I could trust them because they went through the same process I did. Now I have friends who live overseas! Just like that. Most members of the Illuminati I know are youngish, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I know some of the older members take the more ridiculous conventions pretty seriously, and some orders are more strict about their archaic codes of conduct. My order is a younger one, so the chapters comprising it are allowed more freedom. We focus more on the aspects of community and mutual trust than we do on pomp and ceremony. There is certainly still an element of that there, but it doesn't invade our daily lives. I would say that it's the general trend within the Illuminati.

I just saw this topic and let me tell you, it's pretty fucking insulting to an actual member of the Illuminati.

We're not some super-secret sect of government overthrowing goat murderers. Ever heard of the Masons? Secret societies usually aren't that secret. The Illuminati isn't a particularly small organization, either, and I'm not sure why it has such a bad rap. I mean, I'm aware of all the bad press about us and shit, but why is it so readily believed? Some of the founding fathers were members of the Illuminati. So what? Some of them were Masons, too, back when we got along.

Most of what the Illuminati does is fundraising for charities. Like any group of our kind, we have members in fairly high places. It's not like every Illuminati knows every person who's in the Illuminati, though. You'd be surprised the number of rumours we hear, and the genuine shock when we learn certain famous people are Illuminated.

I don't know, I don't want to get all pissy anout the whole thing but Illuminati aren't so bad. We don't control the world bank or anything, those guys are just rich dicks. Yeah, some of those rich dicks are in the Illuminati, but so what? Every group has dickheads in it.

Speaking of dickheads, does anyone else get the distinct impression that Yugoslavian Ghoul is a real dickhead in real life? Because I get that distinct impression. Seriously:

all we got locally is the masons and I fuck with them sometimes. Last halloween I saw some of them dressed up in fancy dresses and powdered wigs so I screamed profanities at some old white fat lady and acted like I was horny for her.

What are you, a Brazilian youth? Real fucking clever, bro, let's go throw back some brews.


edit: I guess if you guys have any serious questions about us I can try to answer them. I don't know everything, but I'm in contact with a chapter head and I can relay the questions to her and the answers back to you guys.

Yes I agree with ron paulo in that 7legionarmy's game looks good the way it is. I'd say amazing, really! There is a lot of detail in the graphics, they're just not textured yet. Texturing can always come later if it's even going to come at all, it looks fine the way it is. It's all consistent, anyways. Don't be jerks!

@7LegionArmy: I am excited that you are still working on that!

@KillerWolf: Looks good. I spot a bunch of unfinished animations, though!

@Gongo: Really nice. I know how hard it is to edit Theo chips, so it's nice to see something so comprehensive.

Thanks for all the beard compliments guys although I am pretty sure they are sarcasm

And yes Alec I have lost a little weight, but not that much!

kaempfer's a cool lookin dude. i'd like to drink beers with him.

We could get drunk and drive off in my ride



Or maybe call a cab from this phone booth if we were feeling responsible

google: where did I leave my giant collection of terrible anime

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Light speed to Endor!

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I have to say, Skarik, that looks confusing as shit. Amazing, but confusing as shit!

@Azn:

a) I didn't insult you until it became clear you weren't really listening to me anyways. The insults were also hardly so bad as to even make note of them. This isn't a debate forum. Ad hominem attacks are allowed (not by the rules, but fuck da police) on the internet.
b) I didn't say that it was "ripping off" Mother 3 (not ever), I said it looked similar and it was foolish to argue otherwise, especially from what we've seen. I also did give you advice on how to improve and depart from that several times (the same advice, but still). That advice: Take what you have an give it something that clearly defines it from Mother 3 if you don't want it to look like Mother 3 (which I, ONCE AGAIN FOR THE TENTH TIME, am not oppose to it doing). I don't know what additions would work, because I don't know what would fit without altering the style you are going for. There are lots of options.
c) Please actually read my posts before you respond to them instead of just skimming over them. If you have been reading them, please re-read them, because it seems like you are drawing conclusions about how I feel from thin air and misconstruing every word I type.
d) Logical defenses for arguments are invalidated if you choose to argue only a third of the points in an argument.
e) I didn't say you only cared about praise, I said you didn't handle criticism well. There's a major difference.

and lastly

f) I didn't say it wasn't my fault for not editing, I even called myself lazy. What I did say was just that, however, and you continued to try to levy it against me. Once something has been explained, don't just ignore that explanation.


What really and truly baffles me is how hard you are arguing against me when I've never once said that it looked bad or even derivative. It's clearly is a different game. What I've been arguing is that it is very similar at first glance and that should be a stigma you strive to avoid. Do you really want even a single person to be justified in writing it off as an Earthbound clone? You can respond to this if you want, but bear in mind I tried to make it as simply explanatory and unargumentative as possible, given the circumstances.

Just so we're all clear I am totally looking forward to Chromatose!

@Corfaisus: I would do something for the top of the walls. You have all this prime space up there, but it's empty and lifeless. A lot of RPGs do this. Why not have something interesting to look at along the top o' the wall?

Nope, semper internet arguments

Uh, basically this post sounds like "whoops i shouldn't have said dialogue because i didn't know there wasn't any" and trying to turn it into some sort of argument against me?

Nope, wrong again! I misused the words "the dialogue" when I should have said "words I've seen" because I was too lazy to go back and edit it. That's all there is to this. Don't read more into this. Don't assume I secretly thought I had read all the dialogue because it helps your argument.

And no. How to argue like Azn: write statements based on logic and evidence? If you actually look through my history of posts on RMN where I argue things, I provide sources and evidence often. If you look a few posts up, you can see I have done so too here, where I did a side-by-side comparison, linked some NES images, and linked another post. That point was hardly the crux of my argument.

Evidence, I'll give you. Logic? No. Learn what logic is. The evidence you give always supports the narrowest sliver of actual points in the other persons argument; like I said, you just skirt around the points you can't defend. I'll admit that the points you do tend to focus on (invariably the least important points) do tend to have evidence to support them. But I guess that's why you choose those points in the first place! Your last post was a four point rebuttal. Three of the points were either "uh, what?" or "WRONG", one (the dialogue rebuttal) was three times as long as obviously has research put behind it. Learn what "crux" means.

You responding to Origin had nothing to do with me. I didn't bring it up. I didn't compare the two games. They don't look the same, I never thought they did. I understand that you are trying to prove your amazing arguing ability, but that was a fucking slam dunk. When you are losing an argument due to your own incompetence you don't do half as well.

And no, you are wrong. Other than a general atmosphere of quirkiness, the game's writing is not really influenced by Earthbound or Mother 3. I don't see how funky stat names relates to those... Those had normal stat names? Yes the graphics are influenced but honestly not much else more. The majority of the game is actually much more inspired by an entirely different game (that is still quirky) but Chromatose still has a strongly separate identity from it.

If you don't see how the irreverence of Chromatose and the irreverence of Earthbound are similar, you are seriously retarded. Like, actually mentally handicapped. I am not saying they are IDENTICAL but based on THE SCREENSHOTS YOU HAVE PROVIDED they are so strongly reminiscent of one another you would have to literally not have eyes to spot it.

You're right about me not seeing the dialogue, and likewise I haven't seen anything but... what I've seen. Which is exactly what you've provided me to see. What else am I going to draw conclusions from? You are so knee-deep in Chromatose that it has obviously taken on a life of its own in your eyes and has nothing to do with the Mother series. I am not knee-deep in it. Like I said before, I am trying to give you an outside opinion. You are furiously arguing it is because I don't know what I'm talking about. Only a fool assumes everyone else knows what he knows.

Also calling me a cunt doesn't really prove anything... and I definitely do make a lot of changes to my games based on what people say.

I didn't say you were a cunt. I said you act like a cunt when people give you criticism. If you are changing your games based on what people say, that is great. There is no sarcasm there, that is very good. But if you respond by arguing their opinion every time (or almost every time, I'm sure there are exceptions which you have found and are waiting to post) then it doesn't matter what you do when you log off, because you're still coming across as a douche. "NO YOUR ADVICE IS WRONG HERE IS A TEN POINT DISSERTATION ON WHY" *later* "hmmm better secretly take his advice..."