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Poor noobs who just joined will probably have such a hard time figuring out what's "acceptable" now. They just have so many rules piled upon them with no guidance in such a big big gaming world.You don't have to worry about this rule affecting new members. The problem is that it's becoming a fad among the members who have been here for some time now. It's something they do because others do it too. It's not something a new member does. And as long as members will follow our guideline, new members shouldn't pick up this habit at all. And that will improve things around here.
I know when I first joined for the sole purpose of "adding my opinions," I got stepped on. How is a new person supposed "show her personality" when nobody even knew who she was at that point? Also, in order for me not to be "stepped on" or "get noticed" was to try and post amusing one-liners, as it was popular.I don't know if you got stepped on or not but if that really happened, let's hope that we can stop that and stop making people follow some silly fad just to be popular or accepted. Let's all work so we can make things better instead of complaining how we shouldn't try to make things better. Sounds good to you?
Honestly, I think this whole movement against "bad posting habits" is targeting the wrong things. Trends and popularity happens, but now you mods are trying to stop what you in part help started? Do you see this stuff in our society today? (society as in the real world, not gw) If so, do you agree with what they're doing? It's like trying to stop people from buying ipods. It's kinda too late. And it'll only alienate the users.If littering or criminality increases in society, will you try to decrease it? We are well aware that moderators have also been doing this, and we have told them to stop as well. This is not something forwarded only to normal members but to everyone. Let's not forget that we are all humans and humans make mistakes.
What you really should be targeting are flamers. People who make harmless one-liners aren't hurting anyone. So what if the post count is higher? Does post count earn you money or something? No. I think the people who make one-liners for the sole intent of spamming up a decent topic or cruel flaming should be targeted. By that I mean people who, for example, give people crap for starting a harmless, serious thread. Those posts hurt people, not one-liners that say "I agree" and didn't show the poster's beautiful personality.Flamers get warned for breaking rules. Unless you know what's happening in the moderator forum, what all the moderators are doing and who all are getting warned, I'd like to ask you to be quiet about things you don't know about. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.I hope that helped you.
Should the ppl who only post one word be warned or something later on? :SWe don't want to be too strict about it. If someone starts to be annoying because of it and we feel like he's doing it for post count only, we'll start warning.And Wackfiend, the fact that you don't (or didn't) understand what this topic is about doesn't mean that it has anything to do with what you are talking about because it doesn't. You are just making an ass out of yourself by accusing Steel or any other moderator for their attitude. And for your information, it was not only UPRC arguing against Steel when that thing happened, I was as well. However, it was only before we knew that it was all confusion, we had misunderstood Steel and what he had done. So in other words, you don't even have any clue what you are talking about. Now, if you don't have anything good to say and all you want to do is TALK SHIT, please stop posting in this topic.and by the way, i don't know why you were bolding "at hand" but "on hand" is correct as well.
But on the other side of the coin, I'm sure we don't want to become uber strict communist forum either. Of course I know this isn't what the mods are talking about at all, but I'm just trying to get across that this doesn't mean no more fun and games, it just means not every other post should be "gay imo".Exactly. We don't want GW to become some very strict forum where nothing is allowed. We want to keep the old atmosphere and we will allow people to have fun and play around as long as it's actually funny or at least not just entirely shitty.
I think one of the things Azure was talking about was the aforementioned Hundley. I constantly see him post nonsense posts, and a lot of the times I find them quite funny, but that doesn't mean that they are needed. And as far as I know, he hasn't suffered any reprocutions because of such posts.This topic is not about spamming or one-liners. It's about how members have no personality and they all post in a similar fashion to the point you can't tell difference between them. I can tell Hundley's posts apart from others. Like I just mentioned above, we don't want people to stop having fun. This topic is not about that at all.
Another good thing Azure brought up was the Mod/Admin attitudes. A while ago I severely hated the way Steel got around doing pretty much anything he wanted, doing some pretty stupid things that normal members would get warned/banned for. Some of the mods even agreed with me (that whole "4 out of 5 moderators think Steel is an idiot" sig), but with Steel being a Mod there wasn't really anything to do. For whatever reason, I haven't noticed Steel doing anything "unmodly" for quite some time now, nor any other mods, but in the past I can recall this being a big problem, just as Azure mentioned.Jesus. There's nothing wrong with the attitudes of our moderating team. They are humans too and yes, they have done mistakes but this is not about that. Try to stay on topic. Thanks for pointing fingers though, you sure contributed!
I was just saying I agreed with what Azure had said, and gave some examples of what he was talking about. Sure, I didn't refer to any of the mods going "this", but it was still a problem plaguing GW because of the ways the mods acted. Basically, yeah, GW has a lot of shit in it recently, but its not necessarily (though most often is) because of the newer/younger members.You don't get it AT ALL. Azure wasn't saying HAY MODERATORS HAVE ATTITUDE PROBLAMS THEY DONT DO THEIR JOB WELL. He was saying that moderators and some other popular members are also part of the problem on hand. The problem on hand. The problem we are talking in this topic. NOT what you are talking about. Let me say it one more time. NOT what you are talking about. Do you get it? Moderators are part of the problem because they have been doing this shit too. Or rather, they have been INSPIRATION because they are fairly popular members. It's true that moderators have been doing this stuff as well but that's not all of it. Even targers like Hundley who have personality could be root of this problem. Steel could be one. Rowain or I could also be one cause of this problem. Not because we jumped on the bandwagon, though. It's because we have posted one-liners, we have double posted and we have posted in the lower caps style. But we have been doing it for a long time, long before this problem got serious because everyone started doing it in the SAME WAY. It wasn't always like that. The fact that we have this problem now doesn't mean we posted in a similar way as most of the members who are doing it now or that we didn't have personality. That's why it wasn't a problem before.Man, let me say a good example. I still remember when I started the "imo" trend on IRC and forums just to see how long it'll take before people start to use it. And it didn't take long until people started to use it. Was it a problem when I was doing it? Not really. But when others started using it in a similar way, of course it became a problem because everyone was doing it. Before I started the whole "imo" thing, I told some people what I'm trying to test. rami probably remembers it. However, the difference between my example and the issue on hand is that the members who jumped on the bandwagon aren't even necessarily posting in a similar fashion as the members who might be more or less reason of the problem.
You could at least dress it up a little. Leaving it at "This" is just laziness. Even "Yeah I agree. And what really gets me is ______" would do.Also I agree! The growing facelessness and loss of identity among a large portion of GW's members is pretty gay imoget itwhoever started the whole imo trend should burn in hell imoAlso, I personally don't really mind people quoting others if they share the same opinion but saying something more than "This." would be good. It gets pretty annoying.Anyway, I hope this will help a bit. I don't want to start warning yet since this whole thing is pretty vague and it's hard to create a definite rule to stop it as well.
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