Well nobody that I'm especially close to has done this (mostly just people I knew in high school), so idk what I'd do if it was an actual close friend.  That is a very tough situation!  It's really rough when you see someone you really care about make horrible choices, but at the same time you could risk losing them as a friend if you tell them NOPE YOUR MARRIAGE WILL NEVER WORK.  I really don't know what I would do.  I'm lucky the people who have done this in my life weren't people I was close to.

Hey can I chuck a comment in here, I've got friends that have done the same thing (married a year or two outta high school), and bizarrely enough it's the girls who propose, not the guys, which kinda throws gender roles outta balance. I dunno, like, I think it's partly because they're like "NOW THAT I LEGALLY CAN... I'M GONNA LIVE OUT MY DREAM OF BIG WHITE WEDDING..." and I dunno it's kinda weird because it's ALWAYS the girls outta my friends that propose. It's weird as shit.

also wouldn't discovering who you are with your partner be a better grounds for a marriage then comming in with concrete identities?

they're not usually the ones that plan their children anyway

Divorce sucks

So the point is to get the good life before you marry, so you have something you can definitely give your kids.

No it's because I didn't have food. I'm not gonna joke around when I say I had a shitty childhood. It sucks to be hungry when you're a kid. It sucks to live with drug-abusing roommates. It sucks when mom pulls a knife on dad. It sucks when dad shoves mom into a closet. It sucks being strip-searched by child protection services looking for bruises (wire hangers suck). Divorce sucks. My childhood blew. So the point is to get the good life before you marry, so you have something you can definitely give your kids.
This sentence makes the most sense here.
We're not saying that all people are incapable of being good parents naturally. There are some naturally good parents. My mom is. Goddamn hardworking to say the least -- she never 'lived life' of course and always comes home to us three kids and doesn't have much to look forward to every day because she works 6 days out of 7 and....well, do you get the point? At the very least, you've got to have the career you've always wanted, and you've got to make enough money to at least provide for your kids. You make a good point with 'not finding yourself until you actually do stuff' but marriage is different because it's *not* about yourself anymore. It's about your spouse and kids.

babies aren't actually that expensive!

For 2004, the newest data available, the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that families making $70,200 a year or more will spend a whopping $269,520 to raise a child from birth through age 17. Higher-income families in urban areas in the West spend the most, $284,460.

Though not as steep, the figures for lower-income families are just as unsettling: $184,320 for families earning $41,700 to $70,200 and $134,370 for families making less than that. That breaks down to nearly $15,000 a year from birth to age 2 for families in the $65,800 -plus income bracket. As your child ages, he or she gets even more expensive, topping out at $15,810 from ages 15 to 17. This is no back-of-the-envelope guesstimate. The survey involves visits to, and interviews with, about 5,000 households, four times a year.

babies aren't actually that expensive!

US numbers

Bah, by court order I had to go between both every so often.

That's pretty strawman imo. What about them?

That sentence makes sense because a good relationship is founded on good understanding of who you both are.

lol

I bet I could raise a healthy baby cheaper than running a car and evidently you can turn out pretty well after eating mostly grits!

You're on.

i said i could not that i would, though give me a healthy baby i'll do it. actually thinking about it, my friends only spend maybe $10-$20 a week on petrol (driving around town and to uni mostly) which is about how much i spend on vitals a week after rent and power etc, it'd be a peice of cake.