why is that post a question?

how is having babies at 20 better?

ok if your ultimate dream was to buy a house and you could buy a house would it be better to buy the house when you're 20 or wait a while? this is a bad example because housing prices fluctuate but i was talking from a straight forward MEETING GOALS point of view.

babies aren't actually that expensive! all the kids i've met that had a flash bike, house, pool and toys are dicks! honestly unless you get a nanny your kid is still gonna keep you up all night if you're 20 or 40.
advantages to having kids young:
-biologically (less problems with the infant, the mother recovers quicker)
-more energy to look after tots
-support from direct and extended family (this is only a possibility, included because they're not all dead)
-less commitments career wise
-when your kids have moved out you'll still be relatively young, you can still do stuff
-if your child dies you can make a new one
-sometimes making children takes a few years, if you start early it's not such a problem
-lowered chance of you getting ill/dying

advantages to having kids old:
-first hand experience dealing with children that are disabled
-probably more secure financially/can keep up with the joneses easier
-children will be more responsible adjusted maybe dealing with death (if batman is anything to go by)

i don't particularly think that the human species is in enough peril that we need the most biologically favorable point possible for offspring.  That isn't to say we should care or anything like that but having babies at 20 instead of 25 doesn't seem to be an absolutely necessary impairitive

i don't particularly think that the human species is in enough peril that we need the most biologically favorable point possible for offspring.  That isn't to say we should care or anything like that but having babies at 20 instead of 25 doesn't seem to be an absolutely necessary impairitive

i was talking individually, popping out a baby when you're younger is easier and it's less likely to have problems. i don't know what all this GET A LOT OF MONEY is about, if what you're saving for is a better future for your children because i'm pretty sure as a kid i'd have rather had knock off toys and no swimming pool than dead parents and downs syndrome.

Noop, met him through work, we were friends before we went out, then he became my manager lololol and we got together then ;D

My friend met someone online, they've been together like 4 years now and he flew from England to live with her

Noop, met him through work, we were friends before we went out, then he became my manager lololol and we got together then ;D

My friend met someone online, they've been together like 4 years now and he flew from England to live with her

iirc was that Zack of GW forums and your friend? They met on GW. That's a GW romance.

so my childhood really blew. ´

Why because you couldn't have the latest toys?

you're a dumbass.

you don't want kids when you're young because you aren't ready for it? It takes a certain amount of time and experiences in life to come to a point where you can (as an individual) pass on your knowledge and life experiences to a child and a fucking child can't do that. I don't care if you're 20 you're still a child and not ready for the ordeal and hardships that come with raising a kid. Not financially and not mentally. Some dumbass gets pregnant at the age of 18-20 and hasn't spent much time (if any at all) working, learning, or bettering herself in any way, she's still a child in my opinion and doesn't deserve that kind of responsibility.

Thats why I hate that young women grow up wanting to be homemakers or "mommies" or some stupid shit like that. Do you not have any life goals? or is that it? Who in their right mind would make their lifes achievement shooting kids out of their cunt? Its really really sad and immature to want to do that before you've even had a chance to live your life on your own unburdened and unchained down to responsibility.

My mom had kids when she was too young and she was stupid as hell and a pretty bad parent. I'm not saying I had a shitty childhood but she by no means understood how to deal with children and wasn't ready for it, even though she thought she was.

why is bad for a life goal to be a "good parent" or a good care taker  i mean not everyone has to shoot for the stars

i mean i think some people could definitely achieve more but i'm not going to put someone down because of it

velfarre are you jealous because you're not married yet??? ??

hell no man at 18 (which is how old this girl is) you don't even know who the fuck YOU are, how are you supposed to be able to form THAT serious of a relationship when you haven't figured your own life out, much less when it's with someone you've known for a year at most.  i had a teacher that used to talk about how she thought you shouldn't be allowed to get married until you're 26 because by then most people are at least starting to get ahold of your own life.  you can't start a life WITH someone until you get yourself sorted out, and at 18 that's not quite happened yet to almost anyone

like I agree with you and all but like what do you do in a situation where you know somebody is getting married at an age like this?  I ask because one of my friends from High school recently got engaged and she is the same age as me, possibly a little older (19 or 20 at the most) and they're getting married this next summer.  Like what the hell do you say to the person?  I haven't particularly weighed in on anything with her but I dunno if I'm even going to the wedding.

Well nobody that I'm especially close to has done this (mostly just people I knew in high school), so idk what I'd do if it was an actual close friend.  That is a very tough situation!  It's really rough when you see someone you really care about make horrible choices, but at the same time you could risk losing them as a friend if you tell them NOPE YOUR MARRIAGE WILL NEVER WORK.  I really don't know what I would do.  I'm lucky the people who have done this in my life weren't people I was close to.

Hey can I chuck a comment in here, I've got friends that have done the same thing (married a year or two outta high school), and bizarrely enough it's the girls who propose, not the guys, which kinda throws gender roles outta balance. I dunno, like, I think it's partly because they're like "NOW THAT I LEGALLY CAN... I'M GONNA LIVE OUT MY DREAM OF BIG WHITE WEDDING..." and I dunno it's kinda weird because it's ALWAYS the girls outta my friends that propose. It's weird as shit.

It's the girls that I know of that do this too.  I guess it's because 18 year old boys aren't normally looking for marriage, but I wonder why they say yes!  It seems really weird to me, I guess it's like you say that the girls want to be married as soon as possible but I just find it strange that the boys go along with it.

My mom got married at 17 but she regretted that decision almost immediately and it ended in divorce.  Then she met my dad years later and all was gr8.

It's just so weird to me that some of these people are not even old enough to have had their own place yet so they're moving directly from their parents houses to somewhere with their SPOUSE how can you make a decision like that when you've not even lived on your own before???

iirc was that Zack of GW forums and your friend? They met on GW. That's a GW romance.

I couldn't remember if they spoke on the IRC channel for Ragnarok or for here, but i introduced them on it and they started playing together/chatting together etc. Btw GW is online so it's the same thing.

Also getting married at 19? screw that o_O

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