Topic: The Official New GW Topic (Read 4667 times)

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GRR NOT LETTING YOU FUCKERS RUIN MY GW!

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wow please don't smoke crack kaworu.
Anyway, what kinda frustrates me is people who say GW isnt dead, when they have only been around since 2008 onward.
Yes theres still life breathing in the forum, any forum with such a close community such as ours will keep beating somewhat, But its absolutly nothing compared to what GW was back when it was booming.. We are basically a forum on life support for the last few years, with a few failed surgeries,  think of the new site as a restructure of the GW body n mind and help get it off life support! :fogetbackflip:
besides the absence of some important members and the loss of some activity gw might be the best it's ever been. the good ol days were just hyper garbage. long live cheezepantz
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gw is far from the best it's ever been, don't fool yourself

fact: gw has been dying for years now and even though the community will stay around, one by one all the members will leave and the community will be completely dead in a few years. gw as it is is practically beyond saving.
Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 08:10:12 pm by Ghost_Dad
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thanks for the facts but we've always had way more stupid stuff in the past and I did mention besides losing people as a clause. no roleplay, no comics and anime? where has all this valuable content gone????

Creating a new website is inherently wrong!!!
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remember VB Corel WIP Steel(rip) Jester Waluigi_Soap fuck, i can just keep riddling them off..
Active and known mamebers back in the day,  Fuck you n your cheezepants earl, I love thid community as much as the next oldbie, but man gimme a break,  activity, interest, and member base have been peeling like onion skin from this place for about a year or so before gw6 we attmpted and failed..
Anyways, Birthday today, peace.
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we gotta bring back the glory days of animes and games
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GW died a long time ago, it's a community for a bunch of friends now.

If you want to make something else, stop trying to piggyback it on the success of a site that was based on something 9/10 people haven't even done here in like half a decade (Trying to make amateur games).

'Cuz no matter WHAT you make, it aint GW, won't have the same spirit GW has or ever had, and won't mean anything to virtually anybody who still comes here.

I don't say no to making a new site, go nuts. If you REALLY insist on making a site as you guys seem to have forever, go for it. Just be honest about it and accept the fact it has nothing to do with this place other than being  associated with a staff that came on board years after its relevant run.

Come back with as many "I guess we should just let this place die" comments as you want, but this place died as a content-producing site years ago. We're here now because we like each other or because we came here under the impression we could get help with our amateur games (Sure can't, that would take people actually giving half a shit about making games which I'd think is a fairly SMALL contingent of this place now).

Seriously, who are all you people who insist on "keeping the GW spirit alive" doing it for anymore? A love of amateur gamemaking (The thing that spun this giant wheel in the first place)? The spirit of a great community, or to have a big community of your own? Pretty much everybody here who wanted community found other ones a long time ago, so I really do ask who this is for? The internet is cluttered with communities VERY MUCH like this, they just aren't ours. And I think that's sorta what it comes down to, the fact it's ours. I'm sorry you guys sorta inherited this place in its fairly lifeless time, but you did.


All that said, I don't spend a ton of time here these days so maybe I'm off base on all this, maybe there in fact is strong community support. And if that really IS the case, well then I really am a relic of older ways of thinking at this place, and I apologize for being the type of guy who can't see the fact he's holding this place back. If that turns out to be the case, I'll respect it and back even further away. But I dunno...you watch this shit try to happen like 20 times over 3-4 years and you start losing faith in the idea it even SHOULD happen.

Maybe GW just ran its run? We had a lot of fun didn't we?
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remember VB Corel WIP Steel(rip) Jester Waluigi_Soap fuck, i can just keep riddling them off..
Active and known mamebers back in the day,  Fuck you n your cheezepants earl, I love thid community as much as the next oldbie, but man gimme a break,  activity, interest, and member base have been peeling like onion skin from this place for about a year or so before gw6 we attmpted and failed..
Anyways, Birthday today, peace.
hey watch your language, I don't appreciate being told F you for no reason. happy birthday.
Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 03:49:20 am by earlchip
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Well, at best you'll have a site to visit when GW is gone. At worst you won't like it and will go somewhere else. What is the actual problem? I keep seeing too many long-winded posts that really aren't pointing to a specific problem. This project probably isn't going to affect your day to day browsing of GW.
Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 09:10:41 am by Drule
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If you want to make something else, stop trying to piggyback it on the success of a site that was based on something 9/10 people haven't even done here in like half a decade (Trying to make amateur games).
I completely agree with this.
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HEY Drule I've been on and off for years and you all hate me : )  But I totally get where you're comin' from with the whole "spiritual successor" thing.  Don't let the few A-holes get you down, I'd be sad if this place died and there was nothing left of it.  GW deserves a proper memorial.
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fuck this shit microsoft should team up with sony and nintendo because i can not keep bying all there differt shit man look make one good peace of shit and never make one agen
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this place needs some new systems. Somebody please program a CBS for us
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Creating a new website is inherently wrong!!!
Yeah, thanks for your input.


Anyway, what kinda frustrates me is people who say GW isnt dead, when they have only been around since 2008 onward.
I suppose this was mostly directed at me. I acknowledge I'm walking on thin ice here, making big bold statements, but I also have a perspective to this most here don't. I've only ever seen GW as it is now, and every time I hear about the old GW and what it was like, it becomes clearer how little it has to do with what GW is now and what I've found so great about this place. For some of you here GW is only the remains of what it used to be and you don't see what's good about it now.


I still don't really see what the problem is here. If you could maybe be more specific about what is wrong with creating this new website.
I thought I made it pretty clear there. To put it short, the problem is you're claiming it's a successor for GW, while it has very little to do with what GW has been for at least as long as I've been here. This means that you will not succeed in recreating what's great about this place today, but because of nostalgia and admin's authority and all that you may succeed in taking members from here and so weakening this place (this is what I referred to by saying you're ripping GW apart). To really compress it into one sentence, it's the fact that your new site will mean less people here, but it won't give me what I like about this place. In addition, it doesn't even make sense creating a gaming oriented site based on today's GW when all the gaming oriented people either have left or aren't gaming oriented any more.

As a side note it annoys me how you constantly belittle GW as it is now, basking in the glory of it's past and dismissing everything else. It's odd that the admins of the place are calling it dead and useless, while a lot of members disagree. I expect that what ever happens with your new site, now that you have that one you will be giving GW to somebody who cares about it and sees it as more than just potential member base for some other community. As this thread proves, those people exist.

Also, you keep repeating that Bart is going to shut GW down any minute now, creating a feeling that we're in a sinking ship and you are the lifeboat. Could Bart himself comment on this? The last I heard from him was in this February, here's the quote:
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jesus christ people. I'm not going to shut the site down. It doesn't really kill my server to have it running so I don't mind it too much
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Yeah, thanks for your input.

This wasn't even directed at you, or anyone, in particular.

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I suppose this was mostly directed at me. I acknowledge I'm walking on thin ice here, making big bold statements, but I also have a perspective to this most here don't. I've only ever seen GW as it is now, and every time I hear about the old GW and what it was like, it becomes clearer how little it has to do with what GW is now and what I've found so great about this place. For some of you here GW is only the remains of what it used to be and you don't see what's good about it now.

I'm not sure that seeing what's good about it now and clinging with your last bit of strength to GW have in common. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. GW has been in a downward spiral for years. And we've tried to revive it. A lot of the passion in GW has died off. And I'm just not certain there's that much interest in trying to defibrillate something without a heart.

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I thought I made it pretty clear there. To put it short, the problem is you're claiming it's a successor for GW, while it has very little to do with what GW has been for at least as long as I've been here. This means that you will not succeed in recreating what's great about this place today, but because of nostalgia and admin's authority and all that you may succeed in taking members from here and so weakening this place (this is what I referred to by saying you're ripping GW apart). To really compress it into one sentence, it's the fact that your new site will mean less people here, but it won't give me what I like about this place. In addition, it doesn't even make sense creating a gaming oriented site based on today's GW when all the gaming oriented people either have left or aren't gaming oriented any more.

My understanding is that it is a spiritual successor to GW (and I believe Drule used these exact words). I'm speaking on my own here, because I don't really have anything to do with the new site, but bear with me. They are interested in creating something akin to what GW used to be, albeit with some pretty significant changes. It's not about recreating this place today, and I don't think it ever has been. If they wanted to recreate the atmosphere of this place today... well they wouldn't... it would just be a matter of keeping GW exactly the same. So this is not the idea! I'm not sure the argument that a new site will mean less people here holds for two reasons:

1) People can visit more than one site.
2) But, more importantly, GW is already dying, and nobody is interested in paying for it. There will be no HERE.

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As a side note it annoys me how you constantly belittle GW as it is now, basking in the glory of it's past and dismissing everything else. It's odd that the admins of the place are calling it dead and useless, while a lot of members disagree. I expect that what ever happens with your new site, now that you have that one you will be giving GW to somebody who cares about it and sees it as more than just potential member base for some other community. As this thread proves, those people exist.

This is basically just saying, "I am annoyed that you don't see things from my perspective and agree." While at the same time, you are unable to view things from some of our perspectives because you just weren't around.

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Also, you keep repeating that Bart is going to shut GW down any minute now, creating a feeling that we're in a sinking ship and you are the lifeboat. Could Bart himself comment on this? The last I heard from him was in this February, here's the quote:

There are probably a hundred dozen other people closer to Bart than I am, but I highly doubt it is a conspiracy or anything. It is no secret that GW has been a sinking ship, though. That is apparent for most people who have been around. Although you won't hear from them... because they aren't around anymore... because it's a sinking ship. This isn't the whole story, because there are a lot of people who have developed friendships through GW and stuck around, and a bunch who aren't even interested in game making anymore. This is where I get confused. I'm not really sure what the argument is. Drule (and co.) are starting a new site that is based around concepts similar to what GW was. Anyone is welcome to come. It's not some exclusive club as far as I know. And then from that GW is left to its own evolution or demise.

In summary: I'm just not sure what the issue is. What would you have done? Are you trying to say that Drule shouldn't make a site, because you like GW the way it is? Or are you saying that they shouldn't claim it as a 'new GW' when that point has already been clarified?
Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 09:14:40 pm by Farmrush
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GW has been in a downward spiral for years. And we've tried to revive it. A lot of the passion in GW has died off.
Basically this REALLY sums it all up. It's not about reminiscing the GOOD OL' RPGMAKER DAYS and trying to bring that back! This community was so much more active, creative, cooler 3-5 years ago than it is now. You can exclude the whole game making aspect and that still holds true. There was something interesting going on somewhere all the time. There was a constant flow of really good topics and great posts by great posters. Compared to the community we had back then, GW is in such a bad shape right now that I just find it hard to imagine that anyone who was active and cared about GW back then can seriously think the current GW is in any way, form or shape better or nearly as good as it used to be a few years ago. Seriously, look at this community. It has deteriorated so much. So, so much. I don't personally care about indie games at all but whatever will bring new members and some creativity back to this site has got to be a good thing even if some of you see that as some kind of sacrifice. GW still has its moments and there are a lot of cool members here but most of the time both IRC and forums are actually pretty boring.

The way I see it is that Drule doing what he wants with this site and taking it to some direction which will possibly bring some new faces and creativity here is nothing but a positive thing. Listening to all the impossible requests of you people and trying to please everyone isn't going to accomplish anything. The important thing is that the site Drule and co. are working on can have this same community (IF YOU WANT TO) and in that way GW can live on. What you post on forums now, you can do the same exact thing on the new site. Why is that so hard to realize? This new site is not going to take anything away from you, it's just trying to save this slowly dying community. You guys can go on and talk about Drule shouldn't be doing this and how you want this and that but before you realize, half of the current active members will be gone and then it's even harder to do anything about this place. Moriason said that he thinks we should let GW die a natural death but I don't see anything wrong with what Drule is doing, I rather take that than have GW dead in two years. All this complaining you people are doing is just silly. But then again, I suppose that will never change about GW.
Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 09:42:34 pm by Ghost_Dad
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also i am not trying to belittle gw or whatever marge thinks i might be doing, i just think the lot of you need a reality check. this place will be dead sooner, not later. i really honestly think gw is in a bad shape right now. of course i am going to compare it to how it was a few years ago, that's a natural thing to do. i'm behind drule on this because he's one of the few people who will actually get something done. he still has some passion left in him. the rest of you just talk or don't have the technical skills to actually do something for this place. i really don't think gw can afford to wait another year or two to get something done.
Last Edit: June 06, 2010, 09:52:37 pm by Ghost_Dad
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Last Edit: June 07, 2010, 01:00:42 am by Ghost_Dad
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the unidentified numbers are decreasing! surely SOMETHING must be going wrong!

but yeah idk, I think that what Drule is doing is positive but I guess I'm biased because I like making video games! i do not think that an influx of new members or a new front page will all of a sudden drastically transform the gamingworldsnet community into drule's vast corporate game empire for destruction of creativity and creative individual. if the idea to generate more traffic through the site succeeds then things are good. elsewise i do not see how it matters even remotely.
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