Yeah, thanks for your input.
This wasn't even directed at you, or anyone, in particular.
I suppose this was mostly directed at me. I acknowledge I'm walking on thin ice here, making big bold statements, but I also have a perspective to this most here don't. I've only ever seen GW as it is now, and every time I hear about the old GW and what it was like, it becomes clearer how little it has to do with what GW is now and what I've found so great about this place. For some of you here GW is only the remains of what it used to be and you don't see what's good about it now.
I'm not sure that seeing what's good about it now and clinging with your last bit of strength to GW have in common. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. GW has been in a downward spiral for years. And we've tried to revive it. A lot of the passion in GW has died off. And I'm just not certain there's that much interest in trying to defibrillate something without a heart.
I thought I made it pretty clear there. To put it short, the problem is you're claiming it's a successor for GW, while it has very little to do with what GW has been for at least as long as I've been here. This means that you will not succeed in recreating what's great about this place today, but because of nostalgia and admin's authority and all that you may succeed in taking members from here and so weakening this place (this is what I referred to by saying you're ripping GW apart). To really compress it into one sentence, it's the fact that your new site will mean less people here, but it won't give me what I like about this place. In addition, it doesn't even make sense creating a gaming oriented site based on today's GW when all the gaming oriented people either have left or aren't gaming oriented any more.
My understanding is that it is a spiritual successor to GW (and I believe Drule used these exact words). I'm speaking on my own here, because I don't really have anything to do with the new site, but bear with me. They are interested in creating something akin to what GW used to be, albeit with some pretty significant changes. It's not about recreating this place today, and I don't think it ever has been. If they wanted to recreate the atmosphere of this place today... well they wouldn't... it would just be a matter of keeping GW exactly the same. So this is not the idea! I'm not sure the argument that a new site will mean less people here holds for two reasons:
1) People can visit more than one site.
2) But, more importantly, GW is already dying, and nobody is interested in paying for it. There will be no HERE.
As a side note it annoys me how you constantly belittle GW as it is now, basking in the glory of it's past and dismissing everything else. It's odd that the admins of the place are calling it dead and useless, while a lot of members disagree. I expect that what ever happens with your new site, now that you have that one you will be giving GW to somebody who cares about it and sees it as more than just potential member base for some other community. As this thread proves, those people exist.
This is basically just saying, "I am annoyed that you don't see things from my perspective and agree." While at the same time, you are unable to view things from some of our perspectives because you just weren't around.
Also, you keep repeating that Bart is going to shut GW down any minute now, creating a feeling that we're in a sinking ship and you are the lifeboat. Could Bart himself comment on this? The last I heard from him was in this February, here's the quote:
There are probably a hundred dozen other people closer to Bart than I am, but I highly doubt it is a conspiracy or anything. It is no secret that GW has been a sinking ship, though. That is apparent for most people who have been around. Although you won't hear from them... because they aren't around anymore... because it's a sinking ship. This isn't the whole story, because there are a lot of people who have developed friendships through GW and stuck around, and a bunch who aren't even interested in game making anymore. This is where I get confused. I'm not really sure what the argument is. Drule (and co.) are starting a new site that is based around concepts similar to what GW was. Anyone is welcome to come. It's not some exclusive club as far as I know. And then from that GW is left to its own evolution or demise.
In summary: I'm just not sure what the issue is. What would you have done? Are you trying to say that Drule shouldn't make a site, because you like GW the way it is? Or are you saying that they shouldn't claim it as a 'new GW' when that point has already been clarified?