Are there any open fascist bands that accidentally wrote songs promoting tolerance/

this blog is probably something stupid but yeah it did enough homework, Maya the Bee was originally some nazi propaganda

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2016/08/from-nazi-to-sjw-evolution-of-maya-bee.html

but that's not really the same thing as 'accidentally', that's more your thing about creating a weird version of a thing society sells to you


Edit: https://subaqueous.bandcamp.com/album/shatter-spell this was one of the ones that pissed me off, album trying to suggest you can channel psytrance vibez to explod illuminati temples with ur mind? Or something. Probably at least a few of the customers honestly believe that

I don't think there's a single case of "psytrance band that secretly hates 95% of its audience/fans" you know, like Radiohead probably is. It would either be too hard or too easy of an audience, wanting to fake-please the audience

Edit: and then how much of the fanbase is teenager-ish? At least teenagers sort of have some leeway to believe stupid shit. I did think The Matrix was a crazzyzyzy movie at the time, but mostly because it's sorta 'unprovable' thing? Maybe confronting unprovability can be healthy if done right, even if I were religious now I'd steer away from the supernatural stuff, vehemently say the bible was just written by some dudes and not beamed down from heaven, etc.

Edit: I mentioned this thread but forgot to post https://forum.watmm.com/topic/94934-sounds-influence-on-brain-chemistry/

anyone who says 'colundi', that's an album some guy did as a parody of 432 hz and weird tunings that are supposed to do stuff to your brain. So yeah this forum I think is a constant war between BELIEVERS and other forum members going under the radar pretending to believe. But some people in turn might be sold on the colundi thing when that album was very intentionally a parody? aaaaaaaaaaaaa

Edit: ahaha, guy on the 2nd page is almost formulating an argument against binaural beats that a layman can understand


this isn't technically psytrance or something but getting close

https://sourcevibrations1.bandcamp.com/music

oh btw HEALING used to describe music, I think I already said it but probably less detectable kook term than 432 hz but might be just as important? Ask them to define "healing", becomes a pandora's box of insanity

there was one bandcamp that was really interesting to me, they actually probably went all out with a modular synth to produce whatever frequencies these people are obsessed with, and the music was supposed to resonate with nature and maybe even the albums were themed that way ACTUAL ROCK MUSIC (RESONATES WITH ROCKS), and first of all the music didn't sound 'natural' at all, even creepy? It was an interesting situation, I think the guy had a Patreon too or some other way of getting fundz but doesn't necessarily mean he was scamming people, he might've honestly believed his own thingy with the music? Neo of psybient

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it's not that close but isn't "regression to childhood" still way too close to 'orgasm'. Also prayer

looks like it's from the 80s. It's always a tract/printout from the 80s

are the rings around the circle the 11 dimensions thing again. Is everyone who thinks there are 11 dimensions just a mandela effect of something jerry garcia said once/forgetting where they heard '11' and thought it was significant

also obsession with destroying the ego. Punkz had egos and they got way more shit done. What if merely wanting to eat and stay alive is 'ego' technically. What now psytrance guys

makes psytrance concept album that is secretly glorifying the ego, not even necessarily sincere belief just to annoy people


I also had a phase like a month or two ago where I just said 'psytrance is racist' a lot of places. Like it's a weird situation, a lot of psytrance glorifies shamanic cultures n shit, but in some ways it's like, the situation is a lot of these guys are European, and maybe dangerously promoting anti-technology to some third world countries? Like for the sake of some wet dream that the cultures were more 'pure' or something? Psytrance is actually 'international' but I think it's more white than at first glance still. Psytrance producers in Africa but South Africa, etc. Then there are Japanese psytrance producers but you've got the other side of the coin there, still a first world country. I REALLY want to find out if Goa, India was a resort town from the start, because I think it's BECOME that way now? But maybe it developed into a tourist destination out of psytrance people making pilgrimages there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Goa

lol that one Jason Bourne movie where he was hiding out in Goa, it's actually not a low-key secret agent-type place to hide out at all maybe? Jason Bourne fights off dudes with shaky cam in the middle of a Goa rave party

but yeah I at least got someone on Youtube to hear my point that "it has the potential to become a caricature very quickly" at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DGORN4xSGI&lc=z235ypkylq2cxrul1acdp433kr5lqktj1c40a30arhpw03c010c.1523764343172282

here, just read the comment chain, I start off a little mean by saying it's pretty proven that even shaman stuff has incidents of abuse, so you can't argue 'purity' that way... who's to say it wouldn't do a catholic church style cover-up if it were more mainstream all of a sudden

but yeah outside of the youtube I'd probably argue a lot of psytrance fans have "magical negro"-type sentiments, and if they actually knew that term they would feel a little embarrassed? (or maybe not, too high to get embarrassed). Like some album art has a spooky tone and I get worried is this 'dark continent' imagery?

and that youtube pic is definitely reminiscent of early killer instinct games lol


Edit: the shaman abuse actually sounded pretty scary, like those people who have hypno fetish online, this is the closest thing to it in real life and it's not something you would 'want' at all, in real life? It sounded like, temporary amnesia that the woman actually had feelings for the shaman when she didn't?, type situation. But yeah it's the whole nine yards, that psychedelic stuff people take was literally used as the rape drug
 
 
Edit: I don't think it's that bad in the psytrance scene, but there's definitely possibility of it being like Sheva's unlocked costume in Resident Evil 5, mostly just fetishizing it as 'looking cool', as a literal fetish is a possibility, trying to make it 'deeper' than something shallow like that
 
Edit: also there is shaman stuff native to Europe, like in Scandinavia for one thing. But it isn't as 'cool' a theme for your epic psytrance album

thankz for letting me gripe about psytrance guyz

hahaha sorry about fetish stuff, but even from stuff I've seen through saltworld/dumbtopic it gets worrisome, like there is also less literal version of 'fetishizing' things but then a youtube channel comes up with random clips from movies isolated for the 'stimulating' parts and it's kind of even a revelation? Were some of these movie director guys just like the random internet fetish people but they spent all this time and money and effort filming it cinematically when it was actually the same exact thing/intent? You could even argue entire movies, Attack of the 50 Foot Woman?
 
and then arguing it's fetish in the super literal way, surely some Wicca people get turned on by thoughts of being a witch in some cases, lol
 
Bourne Identity movies, is shaky cam the director's secret fetish? lol in 15 years we'll see shaky cam compilations on youtube for that purpose
 
 
Edit: There could definitely be like, a "placebo/kind of sort of the musician's fetish/actual music" spectrum. People joke 303/acid sounds are kind of that way and the real reason it's overused
 
Edit: arguing it's fetish is kind of just me exaggerating but an online friend said 'people don't know the difference between 'actually good' and just STIMULATING', paraphrasing but I totally see that. Why vidcons suck in 2018

The internet might make some types flashier, or in general make it more obvious, but when people were all living on isolated little farms I think everyone might have been even WEIRDER, sexually, at least more in some ways and less in others. You can look up all sorts of hillbilly farmer doctor accounts from the 1800s of these gungy old men sticking, like, hay up their ass "accidentally" and needing help getting it out. And then he needs help again and again. The more we change...

flol

I'm glad I brought it up then kind of

like, I meant to say the first time you found out some weird internet fetish existed was it like a PARADIGM SHIFT in some ways? Like most to all media ever, now there is the sneaking suspicion that it could be THE MOST SHALLOW REASON this media was created. Like the X-Files I don't get that vibe but maybe it's just nostalgia, and I feel the grossout moments are /genuine/ grossout if such a thing exists? I always leave open the possibility that Chris Carter is just stimulated by monsters and alien goop and aliens operating on people n shit. And then maybe a lot of early season stuff was probably ripping off Silence of the Lambs and Twin Peaks. Bingo u got an entire TV series lol

even I remember reading about Francis Bacon, I think it turns out he was both gay and a party dude in real life (I think). Like not some depressive recluse necessarily? Did he actually have Chris Cunningham-style distorto men fantasies? lol Like some Bacon stuff is more grotesque but other stuff seems like, if he only could do it as a special effect on a Mac he would've had a deviantart account where he distorts random dudes



this one is totally, trying to simulate a (photoshop?) plugin that doesn't exist yet. How different is Francis Bacon from Instagram really



I'll definitely admit I fall back a lot on samples that sound like all mumbly or muffled in some way for mysteriousness effect, secretly stimulated by the thought of the sample sinking into goo or something? Who knows

"I like this game for the part where the guy kicks the other guy" - all people who dislike Resident Evil 4 are overthinking this, when I played RE4 I was like 'wow a post 16-bit game that understands dumb gameplay flow stuff'. I even compared it to River City Ransom for like combining random stuff that should be in an RPG, item management screens in a seamless way. Like there were times playing Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior and felt like ohshit jumping through menus even though logically you know it's TURN BASED RPG and you can just hang around in the menu for as long as you need to think things through? Had similar situations playing RE4, big time

secretly wishes the conspiracy culture now is like, random deviantart etc. accounts start getting discovered where it was that one guy in the youtube comments, and they've been writing hundreds of anime fanfics about secret society/high society secret debauchery stuff kind of Eyes Wide Shut style, and it turns out it was the most shallow reason afterall, needs to sustain belief in the conspiracy to make the fap plausible lol. I never intentionally set out to find hentai games online but one time I downloaded a bunch of X68000 ROMs and one game turned out to be, it had an air of legitimate first person adventure game but then random sex scenes. And it was like, you could write it off as the guy was Tuxedo Mask but it might've been some Eyes Wide Shut venetian mask thing going on, reduced to a scenario to make the hentai game plausible haha. Or just the conspiracy guys want to imagine random occult-themed rihanna x lady gaga lesbian scenes, totally plausible too, and they just build this mythos to justify their fantasies lol? I get annoyed at some conspiracy people because they obviously think 'gay is wrong' lumped in with the other beliefs, or full on 'the gay conspiracy exists' beliefs. But thinking about it now it also sometimes becomes 'lesbianism is wrong' what is this unstoppable propaganda machine making hetero men not like lesbian stuff anymore? haha Lady Gaga says she might be bisexual in interview, any other decade men would respond YEEAAUAH!! (imagine in the voice of the one guy who yells out at the Donald Trump rally) suddenly in 2018 it is now occult shits? Where did we go wrong

my mom believed some crazy stuff but she believed A LOT OF STUFF so some of it was bound to be pretty good or nice commentary on society? Like I think it was from her, I heard this theory that "religious ecstasy is just masked sexual arousal" which could turn into Illuminati thoughtz easily enough but I think Salt World would just read it as 'don't take religion too seriously, it could be your fetish' and then again, it would be the most shallow reasons. She also thought all religions ever were conceived on drugs, which is probably reasonable in itself, it's just some people believe that legitimizes drugs somehow? lol Like if you're an atheist doesn't that make it like, some of the most poisonous philosophies/thought patterns ever were because of drugs? haha I think the people who actually push that theory in real life, like it's kind of neutral in itself, but I think the people who like /write books/ about it want to argue that the early ver of the religion more influenced by drug thoughtz was purer I guess. People who think there's secret stuff in the Gnostic gospels even though those are like bad fanfics of the regular bible as far as I've seen

Edit: maybe I even mentioned this in recent posts, but the further you go into history how can you know that society didn't get JRPG vibes/stimulation from random things like going to church? Only reason society is more secular now, is secretly because the vibez have been replaced by 'holy' parts of Skyrim, and church stuff is going to be totally underwhelming unless you go to some basilica or something. Turns out the religious feels were exactly the same as watching The Fountain or something. And that church feels exactly can be boiled down to quantity of religo-stimulation

Edit: whirling dervishes are the most ridiculous religion idea to me of all time I think. SPINNING HELPS YOU SEE GOD, it's literally just autistic stimming as an entire philosophy, like how many of these guys would test positive for at least mild autism if they lived in another part of the world. I have the same theory about people who memorize the entire bible/quran. Rosary beads are totally just trying to please the autistic/autism-resembling elements/mores of society, repetition/structure is good and is totally an ok way to worship. Meditation seen as kind of evil by Abrahamic religions solely on basis of it involving /not doing anything/ to some extent. The Western religions are perplexed by it because they're waiting for some kind of stimming to happen

Edit: not even making fun of autism, I'm making fun of when religion has to be like 'something for everyone' sort of situation and it's obviously just to be marketable to the most people possible. Religion always based on stuff most people are capable of doing, facing Mecca and bowing or whatever happens (gets worried there is secretly a double entendre of mooning Europe). There is no religion that requires you to bench 50 lbs or over, I don't think. Most of the time nobody cares if you mumble the hymns in church as a kid, this is ok but not sure if they care in either direction, if you honestly want to learn the hymn better

Edit: I don't think Aphex Twin's aesthetic is a fetish, but I'm kinda surprised it never seemed to even become a thing in some weird circles? Did he find the right amount of wrong that nobody wants to make fetish stuff out of it

LOL that whole post is spot on, I agree with everything you say. Re: Aphex Twin I don't know specifically, but breakcore and idm in general seems like it has a lot of furry / weird sex stuff fans? E.g. Renard is a fox furry... Renard means FOX... I don't listen to Renard but I hear dopes recommending him in youtube comments etc. I think, not because idm perverts you, but if you're into media that's outre and web-based, you will statistically start to run into more inventive music and idm artist/style communities will see a benefit from that boost. I'm just repeating myself from my post earlier about black queers -> more likely to coincide on venn diagram with furries -> the "i like 'gross'" animals and bugs sphere.

 
Renard is like, wouldn't exist if Venetian Snares didn't exist, only real thing in common is having boundless furry ener-g to put out a lot of albums. Otherwise Renard is just like, good at finding samples and bittorrenting more samples, and also was fortunate enough to find out Renoise is a thing/program, otherwise if you're trying to make this kind of stuff in Reason or whatever it's a pain in the ass, once you learn to make it on a tracker and have a lot of samples it's easy to be prolific
 
I remember seeing this one when it was new (still actually Renard)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wj4gTXQhjQ
 
compare with this
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYusL_0HCkI
 
the renard track, probably heard this "Filth" album ("Slop", get it), makes 30 seconds worth of almost atmospheric stuff, like 10 seconds of something with the beats happening that suggests the entire song is going to be interesting rhythm idea but then it gives up and is a poor man's version of a pendulum track? This is probably /decent/ for a Renard track too, there is a little bit of detuned 8 bit stuff that is almost interesting? But most of it is relying on random tropes of what drum and bass is supposed to sound like?
 
what /actual/ venetian snares does for an idea for an track
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09t2hnWgHo
 
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be that random genre called 'neurofunk', but no neurofunk producer would ever actually make THIS because they're too autistically married to preconceptions about what neurofunk is supposed to sound like? Just by making it in a weird time signature it's already like NO RAVE MUSIC EVER lol
 
this track is also a reference to /something/, some random forgotten subgenre of a subgenre, but also like 20 songs worth of ideas, if it were the actual target genre
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Yz3tmuD9U
 
what annoys me more is the scene that throws venetian snares tracks into STEPMANIA or one of those games, and probably not even really transcribing the tracks, just pretending to know the structure of the song for the most part and throwing in sporadic up down left right triggers. Maybe some people actually like the music but it's approaching it as like a video game to be 'solved', or at the very least maybe an 'endurance test' of music, and I think snares has even made fun of this in interviews in an offhand way. He said like 'people treat getting good at music like getting good at a videogame' but it could be an offhand diss to the stepmania people too
 
also the renard aliases are like, the worst reason to make an alias ever. Everybody in that scene has to know it's secretly Renard, I doubt anybody is surprised to find out it's Renard all along, literally just a 'sona' for music, as half-assed a theme going on as most sonas
 
this track is also amazing if you get past the fact that it's dark angery vsnares
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgsC6oPRgzc
 
I think the time signature in parts (I think you know which parts) is literally like 2.73/4, literally just throws in a golden ratio type number as the time signature perhaps, Aaron Funk gets sick of hearing or is even PRESCIENT OF people half assed-theorizing that the amen break contains the golden ratio somewhere and just makes it the freaking time signature MAYBE. But it's also like, a sort of rhythmic idea that a rave music person would have thought of, at the inception of the random sub-genre but it's not really rave music at all? It's just a rave-esque sort of rhythm idea? It also might be a deceptively simple track if you saw it in OCTAMED or whatever he was using at the time?
 
not going to post Dollmaker but that one is supposedly divided into septuplets, i.e. every beat has 7 places to put drum hits. And then if it's 7/4 like usual, technically you would actually notate it 7/7 I think. He literally is making square roots terrifying quite possibly?
 
 
 
the album also starts with tracks like this before it gets super-heavy and it's like /not even/ squarepusher, squarepusher would never do like this sort of, dissonance but it's a dissonant rhythm almost, ideas. Ughhhh the wikipedia article on this album is gone?? But I swear this track was in 31/4 or something. Songs About My Cats is also supposed to have some batshit insane time signatures but I'm not sure if it's as effective. Also the track has Earthbound sample supposedly
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5RoVFdoPss
 
 
 
I'm not even sure how I FEEL about this album but Renard would never be able to even start to imitate/ape something like this, so maybe you can use that as a measure of good music? lol
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjTyXIm_iE
 
 
but yeah like Snares also does have melodies at times, even when he doesn't there's probably ghost shit within the breakbeat samples, every Renard song I've heard is a bunch of 'whoa I thought of this melody, I'm so waaaacky' melodies that is literally just some rave/drum and bass trope with furry edge to it

<p>ahahaha I don't even want to say it, but keeping with the current theme, there was a guy at walgreens and he says something about "marvel vs. capcom pinball" like 2 or 3 times a little too insistently, and I get worried... like I'm pretty sure there is dickgirl porn of all the major female superheroes (psylocke becomes 'psycock'), 'pin' + balls, freudian... is this one of the people who browses said material or even proliferates it online? Is all that stuff even honest interest in hermaphroditism (sp) or is it just a manifestation/natural conclusion of when they say the comic book artist or movie director is just making 'guys with boobs' rather than genuine strong female characters? (I hear that about Uma Thurman's character in Kill Bill too) If Freud were alive, would he argue that most of the female comic book characters had the subconscious 'phantom penis' to begin with? Is it just some manbaby stuff going on where the guy has such a distorted view of strong female characters that again, it becomes the logical conclusion to copy and paste a penis on there? Is this just the modern day version of that outsider artist who drew girls with penises and maybe the guy was gay but it was also theorized to his outsider mind he had this illogical association that putting a penis on there made the female characters stronger, as like a combination of thought distortion mixed with sexism of that time? Is the online fan of Psycock even nice to transsexual people in real life or do they have pretty icky views on gender?</p>
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<p>I don't mind if these people are just actually gay or something more ambiguous, it's just the fact that it's comic book character makes it feel like.... this weird version of going super-saiyan where instead they suddenly have a penis? Or like a pokemon evolving but it involves a penis materializing somehow? I get an icky feeling to some people it is like upping the ante, to also have a penis?</p>
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<p>for the record I've seen some furry stuff and at least that stuff can run the gamut at times from 'magically has a penis-syndrome' to there being enough ambiguity in the art style that whoa, maybe this is /intended/ to be a dude? Maybe it's less significant than I think but the anime comic book stuff, whatever stuff I ended up seeing was just copying and pasting a penis each and every time. At least the furry crowd seems cognizant at times of ambiguous inbetween gender stuff, and there is the chance the artist is like that in real life, that there is an element of self-portrait going on, and I might be right or wrongly assuming the comic book dickgirl stuff is always made by some neckbeard who totally identifies as a dude consistently? And probably straight dude</p>
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<p>When you said 'black queers', do you mean, I actually did have an encounter where the person was a cat person and was black irl I think and they were a girl-boy as opposed to a boy-girl? If you know what I mean. Furry can be gros but it's always gonna have that element to me of, people trying to figure out what the heck they want to be? because there was the LGBT thing going on from its inception pretty much. When I see the same themes with some random anime stuff it always seems like some ham-fisted manbaby view on things and more just wanting to be stimulated without examining it much. And I think this cat person was totally not about porn, but liked having a little avatar of them as a male, literally just role-playing in a sense</p>
 
 
Edit: also I've never noticed much furry/aphex twin fan overlap as vsnares stuff. I think maybe it might've happened thru the stepmania type scene, lol. There is online obsessives about vsnares tracks being the ultimate stepmania levels but again I think it's half-assed and little effort is made to actually transcribe the music, but I might be wrong

ha, I guess my version of why that shit would be appealing was always like, the first time someone saw ELVES in a fantasy book was that a paradigm shift for the right person? Like furry stuff, my notion of it was always almost the Zootopia tagline 'where anybody can be anything' or however it goes. The character can not even be trans but if the right species is chosen can sort of be a surreal version of human masculine/feminine stuff. There is one character who is female irl and they have like a dual persona, one character is stereotype feminine fox woman and the other is uber dyke sabertooth character (no offense lol). But yeah it's like this fantasy space for them to be totally beyond the norm/pale what a woman is supposed to be and I think that's kinda cool regardless of whether they see it that way. The character also came across as like 'animal woman thing that is capable of kicking your ass' and not the comic book man with boobs phenomenon
 
But yeah the furry thing to me was totally 'weird impossible versions of people', just thinking humans are mostly mundane unless they're EXTREMES OF HUMAN like models or actors or olympic athletes, furry as instant shortcut to imagining oneself or others as super elegant or graceful or gruff or literally beefy because they're a bull, or whatever other trait. There was a swan woman one time and I said "is this the secret account of Tilda Swinton" lol The way you explain slime stuff sounds really weird, and I hope where I'm coming from for appeal of furry stuff that it makes perfect sense why it'd be weird
 
also though, I never really saw the appeal of animal genitals even if not realistic, I'm pretty sure most people who fetishize it are not coming from a place of zoophilia but the MODULAR thing you mentioned, like interesting to them the way a sex toy is interesting
 
Edit: yeah the slime thing sounds like some extreme thoughts about trans, no hope of any definite gender ever for all eternity... something scary
 
Edit: or like trans and gender things as pac-man logic, pac-man plus a bow and lipstick instantly becomes ms. pac-man, basically mickey and minnie mouse are also this. If this person is trans in real life, I'm not even worried about passing, that idea is stupid, but would the person know/be able to break down into steps, dressing like a woman. Should just say 'feminine' to be fair, but you know what I mean, is trans all modular to them, is it just a matter of putting on the bow like ms.pac man. Future society, gender has become completely defined as bow/non-bow, the presence or non-presence of a bow

 e.g. "Attribute absorption" (by sexual contact) from one another

 
what's if it's all, all traces back to Megaman and absorbing the bosses' abilities lol
 
 
Edit: there's a raccoon guy i knew who likes to melt or something, and I think it's kind of bad like melting in place of actual intimacy, but like the guy likes Animal Collective too so I always imagining his version of melting as some druggy Animal Collective version of melting lol
 
Edit: 'I stop the world I melt with you' actually fetish confession lyrics
 
Edit: the megaman angle doesn't sit right with me haha, what if everyone had a slight excitement at the prospect of absorbing new weapon/abilities and we just, we didn't make it as EXTREME as others, is all

Actually, furries, the way you put them, makes me think - I don't think I've really seen much in the way of, like, a weak scrawny bull fursona? Like you can find a buff version of anything, but some animals definitely seem to have more limited appeals. Like if they're the sort to choose some weird rare lemur a lot of the time they'll be playing up the uncanniness, or if they go for a fox it's a lot more likely to be pretty vanilla or like "clever, gracile, louche" the sort of people who describe themselves as "snarky".

 
yeah the nice thing is we figured on a chat it's probably a personality-based decision at least and not like 'all asian people want to be dragons' or something horrible haha. Also a lot of black people seem to end up being wolves, I mean something super generic like that, the movie Black Panther is wrong from furry perspective. There definitely isn't some precedent to be an animal of African origin which would be horrible as well. There was a furry guy who is also probably alt-right but their world building was troublesome in exactly this way and people joked about it constantly 'hyenas are black people' haha Also white people were cats and you could super-read into it, they're /domesticated/ cats, while the hyenas are technically, like, wild? There are rasta lion pictures but it's mostly meant as jokey, I don't think any actual jamaican furry has ever felt compelled to be a lion
 
I saw a lemur character one time and they said it reflected their irl personality, bugged out eyes, do they have anxiety problems or something? lol
 
but the more you think about it the more impossible the MLP stuff seems... it's like there's absolutely nothing to build on there. No preconceived notions/traits to build on/even just do for dumb fun, except like the one is supposed to be a cowgirl, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
Edit: one pony character is like a princess, the other is like a slightly different princess, aaaaaaaaaaaaaa make it stop

F.A.T.A.L. design, where Rectal Circumference is a germane statistic lol.

 
even in furry stuff, you get worried that nobody has ever not had an unhealthy fixation with anuses. This is regardless of orientation as well. It's as arcane as the mystery of foot fetish to me. A foot is just a foot, an anus is just this ring thing. People get weirded out about overly fixated about vaginas but at least it seems like there's a lot of attention to detail there to put it one way I guess haha
 
Edit: one time I found this guy who I think posted on salt world, the only things he could draw properly was anime hair and anuses, I could never figure out if his character proportions was something he sincerely liked but it looked pretty nightmarish, to this day I'm not sure if it was his intent, it could've been like idea of a wolf dude with a sort of feral looking build but it was sooooo wrong looking, or if the ugliness was unintentional and was just too busy drawing anime hair and anus. I'm pretty sure when the guy drew nipples it also looked exactly like, when people say 'a witch's teat' they would imagine this nipple
 
Edit: I think the guy was also a holdover of that OHRRPGE rpg maker program, whatever the abbreviation was. He was the last vestige of that scene quite possibly, maybe still working on the perfect rpg in extremely limited engine to this day. I think the rpg was preoccupied with crystals, are the crystals and the attention to detail anuses just signifiers of something deeper, possibly holy? who knows
 
 

Whatever you'd call that object crops up AGAIN AND AGAIN in trans-themed fantasies - the magic wand / kiss / machine / alien parasite / cosmetics that painlessly destroy your dick and give you tits + make your hair poofy and whatever else the author likes

 
trans macguffin

Dumpt topic in a new golden age but so much over poor Earl's head.
 
game from last page sounds sweet Tony, the best experience from roguelikes as we know is being in a vast and incomprehensible world and having no idea what you're doing, yet all of your actions somehow have quantitative importance and thru your scrambling, adaptive wiles or luck you occasionally can scrap together a handful of good decisions for a few glorious moments of success before burning out and meeting your gruesome doom. and I don't even play many roguelikes, but fucking juicy contextual ways of meating ur doom are great too
 
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox
 
halp

 
the paradox of the imogen heap. sorry
 
the true degenerating desperation of crypto scam clickbait:


 
check the tactically crooked round glasses and messy genius hair. the ads usually say something like 'crypto genius who predicted bitcoin breaks silence on next crypto boom'. the guy is actually an opportunist named james altucher or something like that, a career hedge fund manager who called crypto a fad-scam until 2017
 

a few wealthy aliens
 

just imagining the incredibly sad situations wherein this book has been purchased for $30.0 on walmart.com

but yeah why bronies are weird
 
MLP is basically a jackson pollock of everything marketable as things little girls like. Not LISA FRANK level but still pretty bad. The main characters are basically someone went, little girls like princesses right? So we'll kind of make them princesses I guess. And girls like ponies, but they're already princesses, they can have ponies as pets or somethig... NO WE WILL MAKE THEM BOTH PRINCESSES AND PONIES SIMULTANEOUSLY lol And then like throw castles and rainbows and a non-threatening dragon I wouldn't be surprised if the pony kingdom is entirely made of candy too
 
meanwhile there are plenty of random cartoons marketed to boys and plenty that can be seen as having crossover appeal into adulthood and MLP sort of stands out as one where that's a complete impossibility? haha like nowadays adults being able to enjoy cartoons can be simultaneously mainstream and not necessarily mean furry vibez, but MLP is one of those things where there is no, not adult humor but adult-level humor? I don't think
 
at least possible 90s reason for furries existing... back then the standard with cartoons was that they are always for kids, cartoons of that day emit mind rays where the adult can only find the cartoon appealing for 1.2 seconds, nintendo power also emits said mind rays, the technology existed lol, obama hid the technology for islam/communism reasons (jk), and then child basically can only talk about the cartoon by themself or possibly friends. But if the child has a fetishy moment, remember even animal people cartoons of the time sometimes went for realism as well, at least in a way that is nearly nonexistent now, completely plausible a leg or a boob could be too real for a few frames of animation maybe? And then there is the added element the child's cartoon world is like completely shut off from the adults' world, adults are too busy reading about clinton not inhaling, or listening to nirvana or whatever adults were doing in the 90s. "Adult" can even be teenager or an older age bracket come to think of it. I think there was a lot more sibling feuds back then about what kinds of media the older sibling has outgrown but maybe it's still about the same in 2018, I think I remember though it was pretty bad in the 90s, at a certain age you have to like ninjas, then mortal kombat comes out and solidifies ninjas being for that age group. Anyway since certain media is like completely designated for a child of whatever age in the 90s, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles existed and maybe that had more traction with appealing to a wide range of young people, but a lot of 90s cartoons are going to feel kind of cloistered to a designated age group or something? If a funny feeling happens it's easy to imagine you are ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD that would ever understand? It's maybe the kind of thing you would want to talk about to family, probably not friends, embarrassing enough to try to explain to a family member but TV experiences again were maybe kind of cloistered back then? And then if it was kind of a gay experience, the cloistered feeling can manifest as maybe animal person character has a special understanding? Gay characters in regular human tv shows probably don't exist yet. In other cartoons, it's the gay acting as fuck disney villain or some annoying shit. I remember will and grace was MINDBLOWING for some people and it's still like dumb gay jokes lol. A random furry character from the 90s ends up being the most honest depiction of gayness in a kind of irony? Disney Robin Hood was voiced by some gay guy, is it canon disney robin hood is gay. I'm almost being honest here, is it possible disney robin hood if gay, is a more honest depiction of a gay person in hero role no less, a freaking furry but all the human efforts so far have been like, the bond villain who is pretty damn gay (Skyfall bad guy was just outright making him gay/bisexual, making it canon, I don't think it was meant as offensive), again nearly every or every disney villain, and if not a villain something completely stupid
 
that's all I can think of right now sorry
 
 
Edit: but yeah MLP almost harkens back to, that kind of 90s cartoon that like I said was super designated to the age group in this case little gurls. It's the kind of cartoon even the bronies themselves would've went ewwwww girl stuff as young lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0lco_wiT74
 
ahahaha is that that REVENGEANCE game