Topic: Dump topic for stuff thecatamites/bonzi_buddy/etc. might like (Read 281212 times)

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Not really dumptopic, I'm sorry, but sticking this here for posterity - it's a post from 2008 about mp3s from 2001. When I first read this, I got inflamed by each passing description of forgotten musics and went on a huge search where I discovered that this guy's post is the only place these songs and artists exist anymore. I forgot about it for a long time until now.
 
 
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mp3.com had a lot of great bands / songs. I remember one band called The Masons of Fish On Toast who wrote this really great song called "One Hundred Dollars" that sounded exactly like something you'd hear in a tavern. Another artist called Doktor Barkey had a great acoustic song called "Smokin' and Thinkin'" and the chorus was "Stuck my hand down the back of my pants / thought about the girl on the telephone". Jeff Hollander (This Wine is Mine) had a ten-minute song called "Do You Feel Glorious?" and it was so happy and upbeat throughout. And finally, there was this crazy group(?) called Mom And Dad and their songs were so uninhibited and spastic and honest, I remember one song entitled "And All Of Her Lovers" which sounded like the Muppet Babies took a lot of meth and recorded themselves beating each other. All this would have been back in 2000/2001 right before mp3.com closed shop for a while before opening back up again.
 
 
And Jeff Hollander has an (empty, useless) soundclick account, so, horribly, I know they're not all just imaginary.
 
Except, holy shit - I just checked again out of reflex and I found Doktor Barkey has at last had some of his work uploaded over 10 years after the fact, and I finally get to hear what it's like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPMFS_a78s
AW yeah.
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I hate when obscure shit from the early internet disappears forever because no one archives it. Like tears in the rain.
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I hate when obscure shit from the early internet disappears forever because no one archives it. Like tears in the rain.
 
hell, I hate it when stuff we dig up on this site disappears.  like, I spent a couple hours this evening looking up "Stagger Lee" as performed by the Collins Kids, something thecatamites posted ages and ages ago.  the account that uploaded it had been fragged years ago for copyright infringement.  but right now it seems like it's impossible to get a hold of even through legit channels.  it ended up becoming an Internet Detective hunt to find info on the Collins Kids (what did they do with their lives? well, I guess the sister married Johnny Cash's manager and had a kid, and the brother wrote a couple Grammy winning songs in the 80's, but other than that had almost no public presence or anything like that.  a couple of talented rockabilly kids who ultimately became a total footnote in music history.)
 
it made me all moody and nostalgic, the same way I get when I feel the urge to try to dig up more information on Ruth White.  I still have no idea whether she is alive or not, and I would pay Big Money (by my meager standards) to get a hold of any of the children's records or books she made after the Flowers of Evil and Tarots and Pinions stuff she did in the 1960's.  it's amazing to think someone who did something so occult and obscure would just make happy little educational songs for children afterwards. 
 
it sucks that people who do really interesting things get buried under the detritus of history like that, and that their works fall into obscurity
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this one message was something I saw on a copy of Tarots and Pinions by Ruth White when I was visiting my sister a few years ago, and to my knowledge, it is the only thing written by her that still exists in known records.  by some bizarre coincidence my sister came into possession of that record despite having no interest in the kinds of internet channels I do, or even knowing what Space Funeral is.  when I was sitting in my sister's kitchen it kind of almost made me want to cry, reading this little story about the kind of live she lived in the late 1960's.  she seems like she was really cool besides just being an amazing musician
 

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oh and here's the other half
 

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controlled by computors
http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/
 
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https://sportinglife.bandcamp.com/album/slam-dunk-vol-i
 
barkleywave??
http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/
 
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A ruth white kids record for sale. https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/381864652?ev=bp_det

A lot of the early female electronic composers were into the occult. Daphne Oram, an early pioneer of the BBC radiophonic workshop wrote a weird book called "an individual note"



This Delia Derbyshire track is nice example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCF_mHKBH3k&feature=youtu.be&list=RDA-NLW9zh2go&ab_channel=MododeUsar
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i figured out the guy i was thinking of. matt schlapp
 

 

http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/
 
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http://www.mysticfractal.com/fractal_mirage/octonion.html
 
http://www.hyperfract.com/sedenion_gallery1/index.htm
 
 
8 and 16- dimensional fractals, respectively
http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/
 
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A ruth white kids record for sale. https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/381864652?ev=bp_det

A lot of the early female electronic composers were into the occult. Daphne Oram, an early pioneer of the BBC radiophonic workshop wrote a weird book called "an individual note"



This Delia Derbyshire track is nice example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCF_mHKBH3k&feature=youtu.be&list=RDA-NLW9zh2go&ab_channel=MododeUsar
hell yeah, I just put in the order, thanks obli!
 
also yeah their fascination with the occult was really cool, also it looks like at least one male composer was into the occult as well, if Mort Garson's album "Ataraxia" is any indication:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLrS311Ev0U
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also boys and girls, BIG NEWS!
 
I was searching again for Ruth White info yesterday, and I stumbled upon
this recent website.
 
I got in touch with the webmaster, and they say that they'll be putting up a lot of Ruth White's children's stuff too.  Evidently the person who is doing this is some kind of trust of Ruth White's estate, but it was unclear whether Ruth is alive or much involved in these affairs or not.  Since they didn't give a clear response when I asked the first time whether or not she was alive, it felt like it might be kind of rude to press the point, so it remains a big mystery to me...
 
anyways it's cool that all the things she did and made may not be lost to the sands of time
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That's really awesome! I'm sure you ran across the Cotton Candy Castles wordpress first thing with all the fan info on her. (fake edit: Oh yeah, I see they supply that on the website as the official best source of RW information. :[ ) I've seen youtube comments from people claiming to have talked to her as little as a few years ago, I think; it sure would be nice if she's still around and available to comment. Hope you're able to upload something from that Mother Goose record, more Ruth in the records would be amazing!
 
The street address on that Tom Thumb site is the same as a (no longer around) company called "Malibu Arts Foundation", which was presided over by one Ruth White:
[/ )]https://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Malibu/ruth-s-white/102597032.aspx
someone mentions the company comes into existence
http://www.malibutimes.com/news/article_6bf7e46c-8c97-5155-a83e-d9f8f00ada41.html
It is said her studio was transplanted and contained within the Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix, Arizona, but allegedly they don't return calls about it. There was a Fiske Museum in Claremont that showcased rare instruments and had an entire exhibit on her, but that collection got liquidated several years ago.
edit: Her studio ended up in Claremont, moved to Phoenix, and now apparently they keep the whole thing in a box in a bathroom in a basement that nobody knows about. I mean, it's just the tools themselves of a legendary woman composer who has almost no available information, it's not like you'd want to i don't know display them or anything.
 
This one's pretty silly, but:
https://books.google.com/books?id=ti_5vncZaYQC&pg=PT111&lpg=PT111&dq=%22ruth+white%22+cherin&source=bl&ots=-OTt3pw3Hr&sig=WcXH9yl6pUGxC9gFTEcAgtg67SQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNuKjy54DPAhVB2WMKHdtMCJ4Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=%22ruth%20white%22%20cherin&f=false
Some random book on San Francisco Judaism mentions a Ruth White in conjunction with someone named Cherin; now, the trademarks Ruth registered for Tom Thumb/mr windbag etc. frequently list a Lotte Cherin as a trustee. But from the photo I'm thinking these are completely unrelated people.
 
Also I guess I missed her birthday - shoot.
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believe it or not, Lotte Cherin is the web manager! to be honest I did a lot of the digging that you did (including finding the Cotton Candy Castles website, which I've been aware of for some time but! which I only this week discovered had added a link to tom thumb records in February of this year), and from the information I dug up, I suspect this woman (who appears to be about Ruth's age) is very close to Ruth White, possibly even her lover?  that's a pretty wild thought, that this avant garde electronica musician may have been a lesbian.  again, not the kind of thing I'd go asking, because that would be rude, but an interesting little bit of insight into the kind of life she's had
 
anyways I'll totally upload the record once I receive it and have the opportunity to digitize it somehow.  heh, I don't even have a turntable, but I live in Seattle so it's not like there's any lack of options to make it happen I'm sure
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Oh, that would make sense... I saw this Cherin listed so frequently in conjunction with Ruth in these trademarks and city-council-type newspaper notices that I had the same thought, that they're presumably partners and it didn't make it into any biographies about her. And yeah, not the sort of thing you can just bring up at them. I see there are plenty of those background-check sites that have phone numbers for people who I'm quite sure are Ruth S. White but it's not like I can just RING IT UP and SEE; I'm not a telemarketer.
 
I observe a tendency towards a shaky feedback-ing correlation between "not straight" and "artistic in an unusual way" because of the alienation from traditional values. I think it's similar to the correlation between "mentally ill" and "artistic in an unusual way": settlement/living further from the Lifestream of conventionality makes every thought more noticeably alien. That's my stupid analysis of that little association.
 
I always thought one of those usb-capable turntables would be a good investment - I oughtta try and get one! I bet there's a great chance that if you put a flyer/ads up around any place of education someone would have one and be willing.
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They actually have quite a few of her kids albums on discogs

https://www.discogs.com/sell/list?artist_id=530390&ev=ab&page=2

The prices are reasonable (compared to her 60's albums)
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The real image disappointingly ended up having "I'm Gonna Let This" right above the other text, but it was cropped like this when I saw it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKIWKRwFYrc
Oh shit, Time Cube!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmsXsT0kbbg
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