Topic: Super Smash Bros. Brawl [11/05/2007: Fox's Misfortune/Fire Emblem Theme] (Read 77739 times)

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Mario could fire fireballs too :)​.
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With his pokemon. He just stands in the background and controls either Squirtle, Ivysaur, or Charizard. It's a pretty cool concept since it's basically three characters in one, kind of like how Zelda/Sheik were two in one. I just hope they don't half ass him and actually devote some time to make sure he's well balanced, rather than being some rushed character.

I'll definitely be trying him out though. Seems like he'll be pretty fun.

That's a great idea!
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It would be better if the wings were done in a different, more goofy style than almost realistic-like. I can actually see myself playing with every character, unlike ssb-melee.


 
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It would be better if the wings were done in a different, more goofy style than almost realistic-like. I can actually see myself playing with every character, unlike ssb-melee.

I agree with you there. I think they're doing a great job making every character more appealing than they had before. I'm sure I'll find a character or two to main with, but at least I'll be giving everyone a try this time, rather than just sticking to the "good" characters like I had before.

What's up with everyone bashing on Yoshi? His FS looks pretty damn cool. I usually don't take Yoshi very seriously, but his FS is makes him look badass.

EDIT: Just checked the Dojo for tonight's update. Petey Piranha is a boss after all. The fact that you can choose to save either Zelda or Peach is pretty cool and should offer some replay value. Man, a little bit over three months to go...I can't take it.
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Man, replay value? Didn't you play through SSBM with every character? And didn't that take like two days in all? :x

I like how they type about it like its some HUGE CHOICE but you can just save the other one in the next half-hour's playthough :D​.
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The Adventure mode also emphasizes character development. You’ll see many famous characters persevering under the weight of their personal histories, shouldering their unique burdens... It’s really something you won’t see anywhere else.

Petey Piranha battle: You're not choosing which princess to save. You're deciding who should be depressed drunk taking drugs emo: Mario, or Link.
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Yeah, I'm guessing it just chooses who helps you out in a battle later on, Mario or Link. Or neither. It'd be cool if you could save neither.
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I am a little bummed that you HAVE to be Kirby, as he is not one of my better or favorite characters. Oh well. The Petey Pirhanna battle seems pretty fun.e
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I don't think you have to be Kirby, he is just used as the example.
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Yeah, I'm guessing it just chooses who helps you out in a battle later on, Mario or Link. Or neither. It'd be cool if you could save neither.

That's a cool idea. But what if you chose Peach/Zelda for the one player mode? Do they still get caught?
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Maybe you don't get to chose a character but play a character's scenario?
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Dunno, I guess that or they replace the character. Yoshi if you play Peach and.. uh.. there aren't any other Zelda related characters announced yet so I dunno who could replace Zelda. Ooh, maybe they'll announce a new Zelda related character? :D
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Man, replay value? Didn't you play through SSBM with every character? And didn't that take like two days in all? :x

I like how they type about it like its some HUGE CHOICE but you can just save the other one in the next half-hour's playthough :D​.

No, Melee didn't have much replay value, since it was the same story regardless of the character. Picking a different character didn't alter the story nor did the story present you with options on how you wanted to continue. This however, seems like it'll be different. The subspace emissary mode seems like it'll be longer than the previous 1P modes.

That's a cool idea. But what if you chose Peach/Zelda for the one player mode? Do they still get caught?

I don't think you have to be Kirby, he is just used as the example.

I am a little bummed that you HAVE to be Kirby, as he is not one of my better or favorite characters. Oh well. The Petey Pirhanna battle seems pretty fun.e

This is how I picture it. You'll start the game off and you won't be taken to a character select screen. Instead, you'll have to do Kirby's story. Once you defeat Petey and save either Peach or Zelda, you'll be able to use whoever you save plus Kirby for the next level. Let's say the next level is a Kid Icarus stage. After beating that stage, Pit will join your roster and you'll be able to use either Kirby, Pit, or Zelda/Peach for the third level.

The reasoning behind this? Sakurai said that Petey is the first boss. That means that if you were given the chance to pick your character, and you picked either Zelda, Peach, or Mario, you wouldn't end up fighting Petey, since those characters get shot away or put in cages. That means that for those characters, Petey wouldn't be the first boss. So it seems pretty likely that it'll be a predetermined order and the choices you make as you play will determine who you'll play with and what stages you go to next.
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That idea is actually pretty cool Sarhan, I never thought of that. But one thing as well, Smash Bros DID have replay value. Replay value means you have reason to replay it. I'm pretty sure everybody who played Smash Bros beat the game with every character (thats a lot of replay) and then there was trophy collecting, and doing the events, and all that stuff.

And the thing about Yoshi... it's okay, but it does seem out of place. And don't say that it has been in other games, because his wings in those games were small little angel wings, in a slightly different style as well. I think those would have been more suited for this game.
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This is how I picture it. You'll start the game off and you won't be taken to a character select screen. Instead, you'll have to do Kirby's story. Once you defeat Petey and save either Peach or Zelda, you'll be able to use whoever you save plus Kirby for the next level. Let's say the next level is a Kid Icarus stage. After beating that stage, Pit will join your roster and you'll be able to use either Kirby, Pit, or Zelda/Peach for the third level.

The reasoning behind this? Sakurai said that Petey is the first boss. That means that if you were given the chance to pick your character, and you picked either Zelda, Peach, or Mario, you wouldn't end up fighting Petey, since those characters get shot away or put in cages. That means that for those characters, Petey wouldn't be the first boss. So it seems pretty likely that it'll be a predetermined order and the choices you make as you play will determine who you'll play with and what stages you go to next.

But you see, it wouldn't be to hard to put different characters in the cages.  There isn't much continuity there really, because Kirby has no relation to Peach or Zelda, so they could of very well put anyone in those cages.  Those maybe the deafault ones perhaps, but it dosen't mean that you couldn't use them.  A major factor in any SSB game is that you can really use any character.  I don't think they'd change that
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It would kill singleplayer if it was always the same battles with the same people.
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Maybe there will be certain scenarios in which you get to choose any character?
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But you see, it wouldn't be to hard to put different characters in the cages.  There isn't much continuity there really, because Kirby has no relation to Peach or Zelda, so they could of very well put anyone in those cages.  Those maybe the deafault ones perhaps, but it dosen't mean that you couldn't use them.  A major factor in any SSB game is that you can really use any character.  I don't think they'd change that

Kirby doesn't necessarily need to have any relation to Peach, nor to Zelda. Methinks Masahiro Sakurai is just trying to build a story with all the characters. Kirby's Adventure Mode couldn't include just Kirby characters. I am thinking that the story is preset in place, meaning that Peach and Zelda are the definite characters that will be caged. If other characters could easily be put in the cage instead, that would essentially mean that while you can pick anyone for Adventure Mode, every Adventure Mode would effectively be the same, aside from the specific characters in the story.

At any rate, what about the Subspace bomb that went off? I would've thought that Kirby would have been taken away into Subspace, but evidently you fight Petey Piranha, as per today's update.

I'm thinking you can start as at least Mario and Kirby. Mario was knocked away, so his Adventure Mode would start from there, whereas Kirby's would start right in the middle of the action. You might be able to pick other characters too, I am just theorizing based on the four shown in the video. Once Kirby saves Peach or Zelda, you would get that character for Adventure Mode as well, and get the opportunity to save the other later. I am betting that some characters have similar Adventure Modes, but for the most part, they will all be different, yet intertwining adventures.

I realize my theory has been stated numerous times over and over again though.
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But you see, it wouldn't be to hard to put different characters in the cages.  There isn't much continuity there really, because Kirby has no relation to Peach or Zelda, so they could of very well put anyone in those cages.  Those maybe the deafault ones perhaps, but it dosen't mean that you couldn't use them.  A major factor in any SSB game is that you can really use any character.  I don't think they'd change that

Well the thing is, the video we've seen with Kirby and Petey is actually a movie. It'd be a pain in the ass for the staff to make enough videos for every single possible combination of characters. Because of this, it's safe to say that it'll always be Kirby, Mario, Zelda, and Peach in the intro, which means that you're probably forced to use Kirby.

At any rate, what about the Subspace bomb that went off? I would've thought that Kirby would have been taken away into Subspace, but evidently you fight Petey Piranha, as per today's update.

The bomb probably doesn't go off until after you defeat Petey. Remember that it has a 3 minute timer?

That idea is actually pretty cool Sarhan, I never thought of that. But one thing as well, Smash Bros DID have replay value. Replay value means you have reason to replay it. I'm pretty sure everybody who played Smash Bros beat the game with every character (thats a lot of replay) and then there was trophy collecting, and doing the events, and all that stuff.

Yeah, you're right about the replay value I guess. It stopped being fun after beating it a few times though and the only reason to keep going was to unlock additional characters and stages.

It would kill singleplayer if it was always the same battles with the same people.

I'm sure you'll be able to pick characters for different scenarios as you acquire them, though you will probably be forced to do the first fight with Kirby.
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