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got some robitussin in glasgow! the guy was pretty suspicious of me buying four bottles, but he didn't do nothin' bout it.

i also got salvia x40 extract. i've been reading about it, but any suggestions or info you guys have would be cool if you haven't already posted it.
I have some info: it is stupidly expensive.
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This is going to sound pretty stupid, but what's the best method for taking powdered or resin extracts? If I wanted to smoke them, would mixing them with say, tobacco or cannabis work? I've just never actually used an extract before.
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I've never used an extract before either. Usually, one of us scrapes the resin out and turns it into a nice, smokable resin ball. Don't know if you've ever tried that. Boiling a piece could also get a decent amount of resin. Sorry if this doesn't answer your question, but these are alternative methods.
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I live in Canada where Salvia is readily available, thing is i cant find it... anybody know where to look?


Also  i have stuff to make a nice grav bong or a Vaporizer style bong... what is more effective for weed?
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i've never smoked from a vaporizer, however, i hear those are the best things to smoke out of. they give you a "cleaner" high from what i've read. but i'll tell you the best thing to do if you wanna get really high. don't smoke for about a week and then buy an eighth of the best crip you can find and roll a blunt with it. if you can manage to not smoke for that long, you will get fucking ripped. it may seem like a waste, but you can actually start tripping if you do. not like visual hallucinations, but it's more sensory and auditory. try this out and tell me how it goes.
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Drugs are for no hopers who don't want to achieve anything in life.

'Nuff said.
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This is going to sound pretty stupid, but what's the best method for taking powdered or resin extracts? If I wanted to smoke them, would mixing them with say, tobacco or cannabis work? I've just never actually used an extract before.

Fatboy's answer was true, but don't let it confuse you, because you're asking about something different.

When smoking chemical extracts in the form of powder/crystals/resin, the method depends on what you are smoking and the temperatures required. I assume you are talking about salvia extract, in which case the easiest method is to load the bowl of your bong or handpipe with tobacco or weed (some headshops will give you salvia leaf with your extract to use for this purpose) and then add the dose of extract on top.

Most other extracts and freebases, such as DMT, require the use of a crackpipe, which is any pipe that allows an indirect flame to be applied to the substance. 

I've never used an extract before either. Usually, one of us scrapes the resin out and turns it into a nice, smokable resin ball. Don't know if you've ever tried that. Boiling a piece could also get a decent amount of resin. Sorry if this doesn't answer your question, but these are alternative methods.

You don't need to scrape or boil your piece to smoke the accumulated resin. To get the resin in the bowl, simply apply a steady flame for the duration of a long hit. You can also smoke the resin lining the chamber of a handpipe (as long as it's not a waterpipe) by taking a crack lighter (one with an adjustable flame, like the kind they give you at circle k for buying two packs of cigs) and taking the hit through the carburetor and covering the bowl with your finger.

both of these methods will involve breathing butane fumes, but it comes with the territory if you're smoking hippie crack.

I live in Canada where Salvia is readily available, thing is i cant find it... anybody know where to look?


Also  i have stuff to make a nice grav bong or a Vaporizer style bong... what is more effective for weed?

In America at least, salvia is purchased at stores which sell tobacco and related equipment. These are normally called Smoke Shops or Head Shops.

Stoners love to argue about which method is most effective, but if you're just a normal guy who just wants to get baked, then it really isn't important. All that really matters is personal preference. That having been said, I need to bring up the fact that a vaporizer is a pretty fancy piece of equipment and I doubt you could wrangle one together from shit you have lying around. A vape works by heating the marijuana enough to vaporize the THC, (9 - Tetrahydrocannabinol, marijuana's active ingredient) but not enough to burn and disintegrate the bud.

Just make an apple pipe like the rest of us.



EDIT: I sure did use the word crack a lot in this post  :hmm:


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i've never smoked from a vaporizer, however, i hear those are the best things to smoke out of. they give you a "cleaner" high from what i've read. but i'll tell you the best thing to do if you wanna get really high. don't smoke for about a week and then buy an eighth of the best crip you can find and roll a blunt with it. if you can manage to not smoke for that long, you will get fucking ripped. it may seem like a waste, but you can actually start tripping if you do. not like visual hallucinations, but it's more sensory and auditory. try this out and tell me how it goes.

I am not a fan of vaporizers for the same reason that others like them so much. I agree with calling the high "clean," but the reason it fits that description is the fact that you gain a lot of control and lose the free-form thought that usually accompanies weed. I would say that I do not get as high with a vape, but it is certainly efficient in that I can stretch a gram out over three days if I am using one.

Drugs are for no hopers who don't want to achieve anything in life.

'Nuff said.

I know you are probably just trolling, but I am a college student with a job and friends.

'Nuff said.
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I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.
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I could defend myself against your assertions, but the truth is that they are completely without merit.

The point of view that you have has been forced upon you by government programs since you were barely young enough to read. (I am, of course, assuming you live in North America/Australia/Europe) If you understood the reasons I use drugs, then you would just accept that it's something I do and move on, instead of being "sad."

To be sure, countless people have wasted their lives through drug abuse, but instead of writing these people off as hopeless, perhaps you should actually look into the perverse ways governments deal with the situation they've created.
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I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.
I used to be like you.  Then I realized drugs aren't that bad (well, obviously depending on which ones).  I use to go around saying shit like fuck drugs...then I "woke up."  I don't do drugs and probably never will...but people can function normal lives taking drugs every once in awhile let them do their thing.
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I know enough about drugs without people trying to tell me what is good and what isn't.

I'm entitled to my opinion and call it uninformed or naive or what you will, but I have seen the bad side of drugs and what they can do to people and I don't feel their is any positive in them.
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You're right, it is a pretty well informed opinion when you ignore 18 pages of people talking about their lives enriched by drugs! (Also my brother has been in and out of rehab and tried to kill himself so don't give me that "you....don't know the dark side..." spiel)
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I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.
Hi I'm Lars. I like to have a psychedellic experience every 2nd or 3rd month. At max I use drugs twice a month, but those are rare and extreme cases, and it includes weed. How does that fit with your stereotype?

Stop moralizing. Maybe you didn't intend to troll, but that's exactly what you're doing.


edit: Also having only seen the negative side of drugs doesn't make you less uninformed if you haven't seen the positive side as well.
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Thank you for bringing a shitstorm to this thread. Now please go ruin another thread. You can't really expect this to go anywhere you come into a thread that is about drug use telling everyone they are failures.

Anyways, if you guys have a chance (and are interested in neurochemistry) pick up Zen and the Brain. The whole book is about the neurophysiology of mystical experiences (namely through zazen) but there's a few sections in there dedicated to psychedelic drugs.

http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Brain-Understanding-Meditation-Consciousness/dp/0262511096/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202226918&sr=8-1
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I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.

Ok, I smoke up maybe 2-3 times a month if that .... i dont do it to excape like your stero type seems to be, i use it with friends to relax and have some fun.  So stop spamming the fucking board with shit.




@Panda:  Lightbulb, salt, pop bottle ducktape and lighter.

not hard to make a vaporizer. apperently if you add a small pinch of salt into the vaporiser while heating up it helps keep the bud from burning a bit better and sorta heightens the strength? im @ school but i'll pm you or post the link to the homemade vaporiser..


also i hate apple bongs :(
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haha, wow I have never encountered a homevape!

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Well I am not happy that Kabana came in here and trolled, but I am also not very happy about how certain people handled it. Kabana raised a legitimate social stereotype about drug users. I left it alone because I assumed you guys to be mature enough to call him on that and try to persuade him otherwise, not STOP *CUSS* *CUSS* MOTHER FUCKING SNAKES ON THIS MOTHER FUCKING PLANE TAKE YOUR SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE. So congratulations, he probably disregarded the good responses because someone told him to fuck off.

If you can't deal with someone calling you on your drug use on an internet forum, I can't even imagine how you deal with it in real life.

I was going to warn him for trolling after a bit of discussion, but now I'd like to warn several people. Rather than that I think I will just warn nobody. Kabana, don't troll, the rest of you, if someone says something clearly meant to provoke aggressive reaction, DON'T BE MORONS AND BUY INTO IT. Thanks. Either ignore it or respond civilly.
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I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.

being high doesn't waste time.  Going into a thread about drugs and talking negativly about them is, though.  Maybe you should just smoke some weed and make something of your life.
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Holy shit, can everyone just stop? Like you know this is just going to lead to MASS WARNINGS and ultimately a bill delivered to your house for all the hours of physiotherapy the mods are going to need from clicking so much.

So let's start something that is actually constructive in some way. Tell me: do you believe drug use has benefited you? Have you ever had any experiences which you would consider 'profound,' 'mystical,' or important to you?
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I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.

See, you make the assumption that because one is a drug user that one is high all the time. I use drugs very sparingly (once every couple months), but the knowledge from those experiences and even how to maximize those experiences has not and will not ever go away. Quite frankly, I find it very hard to even have an opinion on the matter having never done drugs yourself. Used responsibly, there is nothing wrong with them as long as you do not pose a danger to yourself or others. I'm looking at you pcp. I'd say that doing drugs has caused me to gain a perspective on things that I didn't once have and couldn't have had otherwise. How do you gain a true perspective on what it's like to lose your mind unless you actually do? You just don't. And how do you know how you will view things from another perspective period, if you don't actually experience it yourself.

This was the case with anti depressants for me. I thought really negative things about them, but once I took them for a short amount of time I saw it had a positive effect. Regardless if it was the work of mind-altering or a self-realization, it doesn't matter. What mattered is that my perspective had changed in a good way and I strongly believe I do not think I could have done so otherwise. (maybe lsd :>)