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Fatboy's answer was true, but don't let it confuse you, because you're asking about something different.

When smoking chemical extracts in the form of powder/crystals/resin, the method depends on what you are smoking and the temperatures required. I assume you are talking about salvia extract, in which case the easiest method is to load the bowl of your bong or handpipe with tobacco or weed (some headshops will give you salvia leaf with your extract to use for this purpose) and then add the dose of extract on top.

Most other extracts and freebases, such as DMT, require the use of a crackpipe, which is any pipe that allows an indirect flame to be applied to the substance. 

You don't need to scrape or boil your piece to smoke the accumulated resin. To get the resin in the bowl, simply apply a steady flame for the duration of a long hit. You can also smoke the resin lining the chamber of a handpipe (as long as it's not a waterpipe) by taking a crack lighter (one with an adjustable flame, like the kind they give you at circle k for buying two packs of cigs) and taking the hit through the carburetor and covering the bowl with your finger.

both of these methods will involve breathing butane fumes, but it comes with the territory if you're smoking hippie crack.

In America at least, salvia is purchased at stores which sell tobacco and related equipment. These are normally called Smoke Shops or Head Shops.

Thanks man - I'm doing Lotus extract, but it's much the same I imagine, it's not a freebase. Cheers!
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Troops Battle 10-Foot Marijuana Plants

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Taliban takes high cover
Can’t smoke ’em out? Troops struggle with 10-foot Afghan marijuana plants
IMAGE: Soldier and marijuana forest

OTTAWA - Canadian troops fighting Taliban militants in Afghanistan have stumbled across an unexpected and potent enemy — almost impenetrable forests of 10-foot-tall marijuana plants.

Gen. Rick Hillier, chief of the Canadian defense staff, said Thursday that Taliban fighters were using the forests as cover. In response, the crew of at least one armored car had camouflaged their vehicle with marijuana.

"The challenge is that marijuana plants absorb energy, heat very readily. It's very difficult to penetrate with thermal devices ... and as a result you really have to be careful that the Taliban don't dodge in and out of those marijuana forests," he said in a speech in Ottawa.
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"We tried burning them with white phosphorus — it didn't work. We tried burning them with diesel — it didn't work. The plants are so full of water right now ... that we simply couldn't burn them," he said.

Even successful incineration had its drawbacks.

"A couple of brown plants on the edges of some of those (forests) did catch on fire. But a section of soldiers that was downwind from that had some ill effects and decided that was probably not the right course of action," Hillier said dryly.

One soldier told him later: "Sir, three years ago before I joined the army, I never thought I'd say 'That damn marijuana.'"
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Hey guys, so I'm sort of wanting to try something that will give me more visuel hallucinations rather then the whole auditory and stuff that weed gives you. I was wondering if someone could suggest a good beginner hallucinagen? And also, is it true that Shrooms contain penosillin?(Or howveer it's spelt??) and that if you're allergic you shouldn't take them?
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Hey guys, so I'm sort of wanting to try something that will give me more visuel hallucinations rather then the whole auditory and stuff that weed gives you. I was wondering if someone could suggest a good beginner hallucinagen? And also, is it true that Shrooms contain penosillin?(Or howveer it's spelt??) and that if you're allergic you shouldn't take them?
Thanks loads!
Shrooms do not contain penicillin, no.
I wouldn't say there are any 'beginner hallucinogens' only beginner doses. I would suggest either salvia or lsd.
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penicillin comes from the penicillium mold, which is very different from the fungus psilocybe cubensis.
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"psilocybe cubensis" I'm guessing this is the active ingrediant in shrooms?
And I've already tried salvia, I got nothing from it... only twice has it thrown me into an insane fit of laughter unlike weed or booze or anything... wont lie it was pretty sweet lol
But it's never done anything more for me. Any other things that wont get me all nervous? The thought of taking lsd frankly scares me a tad.
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"psilocybe cubensis" I'm guessing this is the active ingrediant in shrooms?
And I've already tried salvia, I got nothing from it... only twice has it thrown me into an insane fit of laughter unlike weed or booze or anything... wont lie it was pretty sweet lol
But it's never done anything more for me. Any other things that wont get me all nervous? The thought of taking lsd frankly scares me a tad.
Psilocyibe cubensin is the species. The main psychoactive is called psilocybin. There's two more I think but it's generally psilocybin that's counted as the psychoactive ingredient.

Also this shit is not like weed or booze or anything like it. Some people will tell you to prepare as best you can, but imo there's no way to prepare for your first trip except make sure you have good tripping music and a good setting available. MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS CAN NOT WALK IN ON YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. That is extremely important. It's not at all like trying to hide that you're drunk, especially during your first trip. The first trip is usually very intense and will take you places you had no idea the human mind could be taken. So yeah, just make sure you have a good setting where nothing unexpected can happen, have a few friends over and have some good music and take a moderate dose. You should be fine. Don't go around expecting "acting weird" etc because even if those descriptions are correct there's just no way to describe the subjective side of tripping to someone who's never done it.

That said, shrooms are generally a nice first trip drug. Although I would recommend 2c-b for the first one because it's a very "nice" drug. It kind of cuddles with you. Other drugs can be far less friendly.
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Yeah, if you have your first trip in an uncomfortable setting, like where you're constantly concerned about parents or anyone finding out you're tripping, you'll most likely have a bad trip.  Extended periods of time in public might also be overwhelming.  Generally, a relaxed setting with close, trusted friends is your best bet. 

I would actually recommend shrooms over LSD if this is your first trip.  Shrooms have a much more euphoric and generally happy edge to them.  Plus, you can more easily measure a moderate dose.  If you take a blotter of LSD, God knows how many micrograms are soaked in there.  I've taken the smallest bit of paper soaked in LSD and tripped harder than anything ever before.
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i gave up weed for lent :(
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has anyone done salvia divinorum

it's a type of sage that has unique psychoactive properties, but no biological risk at all. ideally, the only way you can have a problem with it is if you have a bad trip but if you've got a friend to watch over you and make sure the environment stays calm that isn't a problem. I'd like to try it but I've already said why I can't in the woym thread (this is where the IDEALLY comes into effect; some people have bad experiences with it, but this is the case with nearly every drug and probably every hallucinogenic)

It sounds pretty cool though, so I'd like to hear someone's experience with it. my friend had a cool story about his trip on it, I'll add it to this post tomorrow maybe
haha, I expected that to be some binaural beat shit

 A few friends of mine tried Salvia, and nothing happened. Where I live they sell it convenience stores, it supposedly sucks.
 Well heres the entire story since you claimed you wanted to hear about an experience with it:
You have to be 18 to buy it but the guy at the store near where I live barely understands english, so my friends bought some and I sat out while they smoked it. According to them nothing happened, waste of money imo.
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If nothing happens, either you're doing the wrong shit or you need to up the dose.
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some kind of unnatural resistance to marijuana
that's not rare at all man
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That said, shrooms are generally a nice first trip drug. Although I would recommend 2c-b for the first one because it's a very "nice" drug. It kind of cuddles with you. Other drugs can be far less friendly.


2c-b sounds awesome - too bad it's nigh on impossible to get here. I kinda wish I was in a place which did drugs more freely.

Actually, scratch that - people do drugs plenty here. Experimented more freely. Seriously, there's like 4 different things (weed/ecstasy/coke/speed) that people do here (bar ice, but smoking ice ain't nothing to brag about, and also alcohol/nicotine) and that's about all you can get your hands on.

A few friends of mine tried Salvia, and nothing happened. Where I live they sell it convenience stores, it supposedly sucks.
 Well heres the entire story since you claimed you wanted to hear about an experience with it:
You have to be 18 to buy it but the guy at the store near where I live barely understands english, so my friends bought some and I sat out while they smoked it. According to them nothing happened, waste of money imo.

You'd need the extract I'd imagine - most people recommend 20-30x, but I think some even recommend 40x if you wanna do it properly. Your friends were probably just smoking it normal.
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that's not rare at all man
Nice to know, but it still sucks.
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Brownies Jeff. You may be resistant to it, but I'm sure an ample supply of brownies would be enough to overpower your resistance.
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Brownies Jeff. You may be resistant to it, but I'm sure an ample supply of brownies would be enough to overpower your resistance.
Yeah WC was talking about this as well. I will have to try that out sometime. It probably won't be soon. Marijuana in Jacksonville and around UCF is ridiculously expensive because everyone here things marijuana is some sort of HARD DRUG GOTTA BE BADASS AND SMOKE WEED. Well people in Florida are generally stupid, but at home my dad would be like WHY ARE YOU BAKING? And at school it is even more expensive.
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2c-b, whats that like? I think I've heard about it somewhere.... but I'm in Canada.... And I really don't think I'd be able to find it here =s. And I've thought of trying shrooms... but I always worry about having a bad trip and jumping off the roof or something lol.
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2c-b, whats that like? I think I've heard about it somewhere.... but I'm in Canada.... And I really don't think I'd be able to find it here =s. And I've thought of trying shrooms... but I always worry about having a bad trip and jumping off the roof or something lol.

Ugh, it's not like you have no idea what's going on when you take LSD. Unless you are on some absurdly high dose (I think 1500ug is the maximum effect) you are probably going to be aware that you have taken LSD.
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Salvia is pretty hit or miss in my experience, but if you want to try out hallucigens, I'd agree that shrooms are your best bet. Much easier to gauge than LSD, and I would go as far as to say more mellow.