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I meant as in cancelling the dash animation into a crouching state, not cancelling hitstun.

idk the usual term for it.

I believe it's called dash cancelling (not sure) but I call it crouch cancelling as well. Although I'm sad about cancelling hitstun being cut, I'm glad I can still run, crouch cancel, and F-smash right away.
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Man, I just played this on my friends modded Wii, and I really love it. We managed to unlock Snake, Luigi, and Ness, made a stupid stage, tried to play SSE. By tried, I mean it froze after the first battle. After we won, the game goes to a screen that has as hit load of Japanese and the only english word is "OFF". Anybody know what this is about? We tried it a couple of times.
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Your mod chip only supports single layer burned disks.  Since the SSE is on the layer you don't have, you can't play it.
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Ah, hmm. That's no good. Any way around that? Why am I able to START the SSE, but can't continue it? Also, is there a mod chip anybody would recommend, I'm intending to buy a wii soon, that'll be new from the store. Any issues with newer wiis as well?
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The majority of the second layer is SSE stuff I hear.
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Ah, hmm. That's no good. Any way around that? Why am I able to START the SSE, but can't continue it? Also, is there a mod chip anybody would recommend, I'm intending to buy a wii soon, that'll be new from the store. Any issues with newer wiis as well?
Wiikey supports the dual-layer disc (i'm a lazy shit and didn't download/burn the dual-layer dump, I unlocked everything anyway).

The reason SSE doesn't work is because most of the movies save a few are on the dual layer, the first cutscene being on that layer, so it crashes once it gets there.
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Sarhan...were you Ban or $.50 in those videos?
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Sarhan...were you Ban or $.50 in those videos?

I'm Ban. My friend saw the vids and gave me one star ratings on all the videos where he loses and comments me saying "boo," but 5 start the vid where he wins and comments about how awesome it was.

But yeah, he's one of the guys I'm going to the Brawl tourney with at Gamestop. Hopefully either him, my other friend, or I will end up winning.

EDIT: Tournament Rules: http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ssbb/tournament/ssbbtourney_rules.asp

Basically each match is one minute, single elimination. If you want to participate, you have to show up half an hour in advance to register. It seems like you don't need a reservation to participate. Brawl's tournament mode will be used.

From what I've heard, battlefield will be the only stage, items will be on, and only the starting roster is allowed. That's just a rumor though. I've also heard rules depend on the store itself. We'll see in a few days. All I know is, I get a chance to play Brawl tomorrow.
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Well, today I preordered SSBB given that I just got my Wii a few days ago. I can't wait to get my hands on it. :)
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Hurrah, I was sent an invitation to play Smash Brawl on the 29th at some  location in the city, still gotta figure out where it is exactly, I'm certainly gonna go to it, there is also a 1 in 50 chance that i'll win Super Smash, before it comes out, if anyone who works at a electronics store they should know what I might be talkin' aboot.
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I wonder if Pit will still yell his annoying NANANANANANA when he does his side-B in the US version.
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Yes, Belross.  I read it on Gamespy.
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Damn.

Well, it looks like I WILL be around for the US launch after all, so I should be able to participate in the tourney and whatever. I am looking forward to testing my skill against you all.
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Got a chance to play Brawl yesterday. Man is it badass. Only played with Marth and Meta Knight. Did around 10 matches total. My first game I got 2 stocked (out of 3 stocks). The next match I beat the guy who owns the game and ended his 13 win streak. After that, I ended up winning 5 matches in a row. A Pit player beat the guy who beat me and he then proceeded to beat down everyone in the place for around 15 matches straight. Pit is oh so broken. 5 jumps plus an amazing recovery, good speed, good priority, fast attacks, projectile...insane.

Marth is awesome in Brawl. He plays very similarily to his Melee counterpart. Took me a while to get used to him because I was trying to wavedash, l-cancel, and JC grab. Nothing's more amusing than running up to your opponent expecting a JC grab only to end up jumping and airdodging. I was starting to get out of the habit after the 8th match or so.

Brawl is going to kill the Melee fanbase. It'll die so insanely fast. I went back to play Melee a bit after the guy with Brawl left and it just felt so outdated. The graphics look so shitty and the game just seems like it's run its course. Nobody will play it after Brawl, even the most die-hard players.

Damn.

Well, it looks like I WILL be around for the US launch after all, so I should be able to participate in the tourney and whatever. I am looking forward to testing my skill against you all.

Awesome. That makes 25 people, unless Mateui's in. Which leads me to my next question...Mateui, are you in?

Tournament Tips (for people participating in the Gamestop tournament):

In case you don't know, the first tournament will be ran using the Wii's own tournament mode. Each match is only one minute long. As far as additional rules are concerned, it seems likely that all items will be on. Stages will be either random or battlefield only. More likely than not, only the starting roster will be allowed. This is how earlier Nintendo tournaments were done. What does this mean for you?

Well, since there is no stock, the person who gets the most kills in the first minute will win. Since you've probably never played the game, you will want to test out the controls first and get a feel for the game, but this will screw you over since you only have one minute to get a KO. Instead, you should focus on camping. It may be cheap, but if you want to win, this would be your best bet. Camp items and punish your enemy's mistakes. Shield grab a lot.

When it comes to picking a character, you may want to avoid characters that have bad KO moves. This includes Meta Knight and Sonic. You want to pick either powerful characters, characters you're familiar with from Melee/64, or characters that are balanced all around. Kirby, Pit, Ike, Mario, and Fox come to mind.

Basically, to sum it up, you should:
-Pick a character that you're familiar with, is very powerful, or is well balanced.
-Camp and camp a lot. Dodge, roll, shieldgrab, and chuck items at your enemies.
-If you get a smash ball, try not to choke and use it only when you know you'll connect because it may be your only kill.
-If you opponent gets the smash ball, either beat it out of them (only when you're sure your hits will connect) or dodge around like a madman (only do this if you're already a kill ahead).

This is the biggest tip I can give you but it's also kinda cheap:

When you get a KO in timed matches, you get one point for killing your opponent and your opponent gets -1 for getting killed. This will leave you at +1 and them at -1. When your hit percentage gets really high, to avoid a kill, you could just suicide, which will give you -1, putting you at 0, but still ahead of your enemy. This will prevent a tie by preventing the enemy from killing you and will bring you back to life with 0%, allowing you to live the rest of the match. Make sure you do not suicide after already getting hit in the air since it will count as a kill for the enemy. You have to land on the ground and then run/jump off without getting hit in the process. It's cheap, but if you get a KO and want to keep the lead, it's the best thing you can do.

Also, if you played Melee and used advanced techniques of any kind, make sure you play an hour or two but avoid using the advanced techniques completely to get used to not doing them. It caused me many deaths when I was playing Brawl and would have probably screwed me over at the tournament.

Oh, and if you want to play just for the hell of it, then by all means, go for it. This advice is only for people who actually want to win and would like a bit of an upper hand.
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Man you played 10 matches and only played two characters, only one of them being new? If you like Marth, you should have tried Ike since he is FANTASTIC. Well I guess the game will be out soon, but it seems such a waste! I agree that Pit is pretty rad; my friend was playing as him a lot last night and was owning us. He is very fast and well-balanced, and even has a reflector. And his arrow is so annoying.

I've been having a ton of fun playing as Dedede. Even though he is super slow, once you get the hang of his timing you can speed him up a lot. Some of his moves, like his sidestep, aerials, and forward tilt-A, are surprisingly fast. For the most part he has little lag between moves. His hammer has decent range (especially his forward tilt) and his A combo is killer, almost as good as Ike's (which is insane.) And of course Dedede packs an incredible wallop... So even though he is hard to win with, it is a blast just to play as him, throwing Waddle Dees/Doos around and Jet Hammering people in the FACE.
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Man you played 10 matches and only played two characters, only one of them being new? If you like Marth, you should have tried Ike since he is FANTASTIC. Well I guess the game will be out soon, but it seems such a waste!

Yeah, you're right. I mostly wanted to get a feel for the differences in physics and since Marth was my main in Melee, I figured I'd be able to notice all the small details best with him. Should've played with Kirby though since I'm probably going to use him for the gamestop tournament, but meh.

Ike seems cool, but slower characters aren't my style for the most part. I'm horrible at timing slow moves, which is one of the reasons my Fair's with Dr. Mario and Ganondorf don't connect well. Dedede looks cool just because of the chaingrab and waddle dee spam, and his Ftilt, Dair, and Fair all seem like really good moves.
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Oh yeah, Dedede also throws capsules instead of Waddle Dees about 2% of the time, even if items are turned off. These capsules can contain just about any item in the game, including Smash Balls. That's right, even with items turned off, Dedede can generate a Smash Ball. I will seriously laugh my ass off when that happens in a tournament and some self-righteous nerd just about has a stroke.
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Oh yeah, Dedede also throws capsules instead of Waddle Dees about 5% of the time, even if items are turned off. These capsules can contain just about any item in the game, including Smash Balls. That's right, even with items turned off, Dedede can generate a Smash Ball. I will seriously laugh my ass off when that happens in a tournament and some self-righteous nerd just about has a stroke.


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Oh yeah, Dedede also throws capsules instead of Waddle Dees about 2% of the time, even if items are turned off. These capsules can contain just about any item in the game, including Smash Balls. That's right, even with items turned off, Dedede can generate a Smash Ball. I will seriously laugh my ass off when that happens in a tournament and some self-righteous nerd just about has a stroke.

yeah, because we all know its been decided that items will for sure be disabled in Brawl tournament play





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Awesome. That makes 25 people, unless Mateui's in. Which leads me to my next question...Mateui, are you in?
You bet! Unless it's at some crazy time during the day when I'm unavailable, but I'd love to participate.