Debate What is REALLY wrong with America? (Read 5333 times)

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America fucked up when the white man killed the Native Americans.

America fucked up when they put little Africans on boats.

America fucked up when they made Chinamen build railroads.

America fucked up every time a white racist president was elected.
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Deep down the other countries know we aren't bad either.
That or the fact that we know you could start a nuclear war and actually win. You're not bad, just really bloody dangerous.

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Every time they need help, they ask US. And we always help.
Right, so you guys decided to help out in a few world wars. We probably couldn't have done it without your cannon fodder. But could you please just stop milking the whole bloody affair? Some of us here are trying to get on with it without stomping third-world countries into a bloody pulp and then letting the survivors buy our stuff.

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This is the first age of the world where the most dominant country is the good guy. We don't invade people to take their land. We don't commit genocide. We protect the peace.
Cough. I mean, really. Cough. You don't take other people's land (anymore) because it's not profitable. Sure, you don't commit genocide, good one. At least we know you're not run by full-fledged psychopaths. Protect the peace? You protect yourself by starting wars.

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Yes, Dubbya Bush has done alot of damage to the credibility of the U.S. but the kewl thing about our country is that every 4 (or 8 if there is a re-election) we get a new leader with a new vision and things that were wrong before can be made right.
Almost every developed country got that, and your elected the moron twice. Furthermore, all your presidents have pretty much the same vision. Really, all you ever do is pick between fascist nationalistic fundamentalist and lame nationalistic fundamentalist.

You're kind of like a (huge, delirious) bear. Sure, he's all hugable and fuzzy and you could probably get him to dance but then he rips out your guts and fashions a honey jar out of your skull.

Now, I'm not saying the world is a happy peaceful utopia except for the huge, festering wound that is the US, but you're still sort of a kind of big, bleeding scar, you know?
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Taraka: "My word? I shall be happy to swear by anything you care to name--"
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hahaha 4dsheep's post is so terrible.

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[Masta Ace]
I wish the president would stop lyin'
Black babies stop cryin'
And young brothers stop dyin'
I wish the police would stop killin'
Politicians a stop stealin' and actin like they not dealin'
When they know they got bricks in the street
At the country club fixin' to eat
I can see em' now
I wish we'd get this shit figured out
And stop goin' the trigger route
And actin' all niggered out
On the block with the nine cocked
I wish we'd try and stop, (what?) stop wishin' for the prime box
I wish she wasn't so obsessed with death
Tell me is it cuz we blessed with less?
I don't know really
I wish the world was safer, I'm scared to travel abroad
That's why, I travel with the Lord
I wish the cabs would stop for me in the rain
I know you wanna call me insane, I'm a dreamer.

[Edo. G]
I wish my pops didn't die when I was seven years old
If there's life after death, is heaven this cold?
I wish I could wipe the tears of all the cryin' mothers
Wish new york niggas didn't start flyin' colors
I wish my people stop avoiding the truth,
BET stop poisoning youth
We need changes for teenagers as they go through phases
More than just a concrete jungle the world got green acres
I wish I'd been more diligent
Smart cats rhyme militant the rest rhyme ignorant
I wish the world didn't give us funny looks
Think we all just dummies and crooks
Athletes and entertainers singin' hooks
We need more black babies, that's in the books
I wish God could take away the pain
I know you wanna call me insane, I'm a dreamer.

[Edo. G]
I wish I didn't get searched when I come through customs
I wish Christians stop beefin' with Muslims
Wish the poor didn't have to take welfare
Wish America had universal healthcare
Cuz there aint' no help here, in a country where we don't fight fair
The American dream becomes a nightmare
It's all hype here, and on this track my soul I might bare
I wish Bush just get outta office
Before he start world war three and try to off us
It won't cost him, but it'll cost us
And right now, believe me you lost us.
Last Edit: February 23, 2008, 05:37:44 pm by Omega the Unknown
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A rejection of socialism on a misled moral basis is what's wrong with America. Mind you America has been one of the most libertarian nations on earth unp until WW2, and things for Americans functioned well up until then. America worked best when no one was in chrage, and the government and army was small. It was the hypercapitalism/hyperpatriotism fueled by the Cold War and a Kennet/Reganist world view (every other nation is insane except ours) that has poisoned the American culture in the minds of other nations and its own populace as to thier ignorance of the world and the belief in the saving grace of thier own system when they can't even afford to go to the hospital when they get sick.

I do respect the traditional American system (pre-1940s America) that had a more hands off apporach to the running of the nation, and inspiring rather than indoctrinating certain values in thier populace. Today things are much different. I think its a long way back to a sane and stable America though.

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There isn't anything wrong with America that a change in President won't fix.

This is correct. I remember back before the Gee Dubya administration, there were NO problems in the United States.

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That or the fact that we know you could start a nuclear war and actually win. You're not bad, just really bloody dangerous.

This too is correct. The only reason the rest of the world pays attention to the United States or allies itself with it is because of nukes. Totally. That's why there's been many a country, particularly in the past 8 years, who haven't supported the US or its plans. How did the US retaliate? By making their late night comedians make scathing comments about those countries.

What's wrong with the United States? Most citizens don't care, and the ones that do, complaint but don't act. Saying, "This is a problem, someone should really do something about it!" doesn't accomplish anything.
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I do respect the traditional American system (pre-1940s America) that had a more hands off apporach to the running of the nation, and inspiring rather than indoctrinating certain values in thier populace. Today things are much different. I think its a long way back to a sane and stable America though.



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What's wrong with America is the pre-teen adolescent people from European nations that think they're 'edgy' or informed by bashing us bashed on broad generalizations, untrue stereotypes, and what they hear from their Internet friends or the media. Of course there's a lot more that America could improve on, but that's a start in our foreign relations issues.
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I'll not TAKE ANYTHING you write like this seriously because it looks dumb
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the problem with america is that, since it's inception, the concept of freedom has been perverted by a collection of greedy individuals to mean, "i can do whatever i want to you, as long as the law says i can." i certainly made this up, but it's my feeling that every bad thing that has happened in america is the result of some form of corporate-political symbiosis. things like slavery, the iraq war, etc...


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and all of these things that you guys are complaining about (youth culture, ignorance) are directly caused by corporations who want you to pay more attention to the discovery channel and "political" or topical hollywood movies, instead of paying attention to their activities.

also, this situation CANNOT be changed by a new administration, and it WILLL NOT be changed by the next administration or the one after that. you guys seem to put a lot of faith in obama, but just because he is a democrat, doesn't mean that he doesn't have corporate interests. (though certainly less than hillary) bill clinton was a democrat too, and he approved nafta, which was one of the most harmful treaties in recent american history.
Last Edit: February 23, 2008, 07:17:37 pm by PandaBear
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maybe we just suck

also everyone uses drugs to solve their problems
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also, this situation CANNOT be changed by a new administration, and it WILLL NOT be changed by the next administration or the one after that. you guys seem to put a lot of faith in obama, but just because he is a democrat, doesn't mean that he doesn't have corporate interests. (though certainly less than hillary) bill clinton was a democrat too, and he approved nafta, which was one of the most harmful treaties in recent american history.

bill clinton is considerably more moderate than obama. and obama is kind of basing his entire campaign over reform and the exclusion of corporate interests so unless he totally deviates that i think it will be a step in the right direction
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i know, but i think i had a pessimism sammich for lunch today
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america is getting dumber because religion is becomming more and more popular because of the internet mostly (internet is mostly christian)
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america is getting dumber because religion is becomming more and more popular because of the internet mostly (internet is mostly christian)
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america is getting dumber because religion is becomming more and more popular because of the internet mostly (internet is mostly christian)
Source?

I've always viewed the internet as a very strongly leftist demographic. That's the idea I've always had, no matter which community I went to (and I've been active in them since somewhere in 1997). The majority of the (somewhat serious and active) internet users may be christian (but I refuse to believe this so easily), but at least the majority should also be open-minded about it.
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Source?

I've always viewed the internet as a very strongly leftist demographic. That's the idea I've always had, no matter which community I went to (and I've been active in them since somewhere in 1997). The majority of the (somewhat serious and active) internet users may be christian (but I refuse to believe this so easily), but at least the majority should also be open-minded about it.
i don't


i don't think he's serious

also this topic is terrible.
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i don't


i don't think he's serious
You're right, I'm not good with conputer

Also I didn't read a single preceding sentence in this topic.
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Guilt.
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The Stock Market (I hate how it functions.)
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