Topic: What is REALLY wrong with America? (Read 5333 times)

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I think what's wrong with America, is that there is a lack of maps > >
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CNN is notorious for reporting on non-news items, like one time a few years ago when they reported that Marlon Brando had, before his death, recorded dialogue for an animated movie that nobody has heard about since.  They were all "OMG, deceased famous actor playing the role of a woman!"  WHO CARES?!  It's not news, they only ran it because he had just died and the whole thing was slightly to the left of conservative.
They do this all the time and nobody even remembers these things

Well in CNN's defense they have to fill in 24 hours worth of programming every day. And when your channel is nothing but news, you gotta report everything lol.

And back on the sub-topic of 3rd parites. Yeah I actually COULD see the Green Party eventually becoming a major player. People are just now realizing the importance of the enviroment and how screwed up we are making it. And people like Dubbya Bush have gone a long way in helping to destroy it all so who better to take us into the Green Age than the Green Party? :P

As far as I know though (cuz of the lack of info about other candidates) I'm not even sure there IS a Green Party rep. Is it Nader again?

On a side note, how easy would it be to start up a chain letter thru email for someone wanting to be president. It would travel all over the country many times over and I'm sure alot of dumb people would vote for him/her just for shits and giggles.
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Well in CNN's defense they have to fill in 24 hours worth of programming every day. And when your channel is nothing but news, you gotta report everything lol.

And back on the sub-topic of 3rd parites. Yeah I actually COULD see the Green Party eventually becoming a major player. People are just now realizing the importance of the enviroment and how screwed up we are making it. And people like Dubbya Bush have gone a long way in helping to destroy it all so who better to take us into the Green Age than the Green Party? :P

As far as I know though (cuz of the lack of info about other candidates) I'm not even sure there IS a Green Party rep. Is it Nader again?

On a side note, how easy would it be to start up a chain letter thru email for someone wanting to be president. It would travel all over the country many times over and I'm sure alot of dumb people would vote for him/her just for shits and giggles.
I explicit explained to you that a third party could never win an American election. It doesn't matter how popular it becomes, it will never win an election because the American system is designed to keep third parties out. If you are ignorant about the American system, then at least listen to people who knows. A vote for a third party is a wasted vote and it will make the party you support the least win. Would you vote for a party that would make the party you support the least win? Also when enviroment becomes popular, then the Democrats will support action, actually they do allready.

If they changed the system and the representatives is distrubuted after how many votes you get, instead of how many states you get majority in, then the U.S. would have severall third parties.
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I explicit explained to you that a third party could never win an American election. It doesn't matter how popular it becomes, it will never win an election because the American system is designed to keep third parties out. If you are ignorant about the American system, then at least listen to people who knows. A vote for a third party is a wasted vote and it will make the party you support the least win. Would you vote for a party that would make the party you support the least win? Also when enviroment becomes popular, then the Democrats will support action, actually they do allready.

If they changed the system and the representatives is distrubuted after how many votes you get, instead of how many states you get majority in, then the U.S. would have severall third parties.

So bascially you are saying that you vote for the big 2 only because everyone else does it. So you would jump off a bridge if everyone else did that too I guess. I'm sorry if I actually believe we should vote the best candidate and not just who we are SUPPOSED to vote for. That's why third parties don't get votes. It's not because they aren't better, it's because people like you are apathetic and lazy and don't give a shit if things stay the same year after year after year. If people thought like you in the past, we'd still have slavery and women wouldn't be able to vote. Changes occur when people are brave and determined enough to take ACTION.
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No one goes for a walk for the hell of it anymore.

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So bascially you are saying that you vote for the big 2 only because everyone else does it. So you would jump off a bridge if everyone else did that too I guess. I'm sorry if I actually believe we should vote the best candidate and not just who we are SUPPOSED to vote for. That's why third parties don't get votes. It's not because they aren't better, it's because people like you are apathetic and lazy and don't give a shit if things stay the same year after year after year. If people thought like you in the past, we'd still have slavery and women wouldn't be able to vote. Changes occur when people are brave and determined enough to take ACTION.
I don't think you followed my reasoning. I said you should vote for the big 2, because if many thought like you, you would make the party you support the least win. The reason isn't because of the bandwagon, but because the American system is old and not working probably and Americans refuse to fix it.  

If you want to change something, why don't you go forward and discuss against winner take all system? People thought like me in the past and therefore we have only had two parties since the civil war. The reason why both slavery got abolished and women got voting rights was because enough people started supporting it and then one of the big ones took it up and fought for it, not because of third parties. However, voting for third parties is a good way to promote single issues. If you are a socialist you better vote for the democrats, since voting for the socialist will only help the republicans. Third parties can only be used to promote single issues, therefore a third party will never be big.
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That question in itself, we should really be asking what is wrong with the WORLD.
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anyone who voted for nader in 2000 in florida should be shot.
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hmmm one of the closest elections in american history between a fucking dinosaur conservative and someone who knows global warming is real you know what this calls for??

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No one goes for a walk for the hell of it anymore.
I do too.

It's not actually for the hell of it but for the fact that it's a very positive mental experience.
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No one goes for a walk for the hell of it anymore.

I also do.

but what I think is wrong with America is the sheer amount of bigotry and prejudice that is still prevalent here.

it really bothers me
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  Also if you are poor in the U.S. you will end up in horrible schools, the colleges will weight down your GPA, because you went to a bad school and your school didn't offer any AP courses. Even if you get to a good college you will meet tons of problems, you have to take up more than a million dollar in loan because the college prices are extremely high. The previous high school has  probably skipped a lot of the syllabus or you don't need to understand the material to achieve a high grade and then you will fail and have to leave the college.

That is untrue. I am poor as shit, but I managed I find a program where I could attend community college for free while I was in high school! They paid for my tuition and textbooks and I immediately jumped on this opportunity and in the past four years of high school, I was able to complete 80 units of  college for no cost, and even after that, I have tons of opportunities to get good money through government grants like FAFSA and scholarships. Sure, its not enough, but its enough to get my by. The problem is, America is a very open-ended country. You are free to fail miserably or do amazing well. You have a lot of chances to prove yourself, but the issue is, at least in the education system, most people don't care enough to take on these chances or they just don't know about it because there is so much to consider and a lack of organization.
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That is untrue. I am poor as shit, but I managed I find a program where I could attend community college for free while I was in high school! They paid for my tuition and textbooks and I immediately jumped on this opportunity and in the past four years of high school, I was able to complete 80 units of  college for no cost, and even after that, I have tons of opportunities to get good money through government grants like FAFSA and scholarships. Sure, its not enough, but its enough to get my by. The problem is, America is a very open-ended country. You are free to fail miserably or do amazing well. You have a lot of chances to prove yourself, but the issue is, at least in the education system, most people don't care enough to take on these chances or they just don't know about it because there is so much to consider and a lack of organization.
You must remember that not everyone are as fortunate as you and can attend the university for free or is capable of following university courses. I'm not saying that poor people have no chances to become rich, but it's much harder. If you were rich you would probably attend one of the top universities now. It is true that they give less funding to public schools in bad areas. Why they do that is a good question?

Not only is this system unfair towards those who are poor, but it also cause more criminality and make more stupid Americans.
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[America] is getting dumber because religion is [becoming] more and more popular because of the internet mostly (internet is mostly [Christian])
Wow wut? Being an atheist is trendy nowadays. I don't think that was the case a few centuries ago.
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And ironically the one thing that would stop me from getting into a university is because I am of Asian descent.  :rolleyes: And because there are so many Asians in colleges, there needs to be leeway for those "poorer" minorities!
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Wow wut? Being an atheist is trendy nowadays. I don't think that was the case a few centuries ago.
I wonder why that would be the case.

Hmm, let's think about it.  Lets think very hard.
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And ironically the one thing that would stop me from getting into a university is because I am of Asian descent.  :rolleyes: And because there are so many Asians in colleges, there needs to be leeway for those "poorer" minorities!

whites are accepted to college at a still higher level than even Asians, but nice try with the bootstraps!
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That would vary on what state you are looking and which university system, but now I am digressing from the original topic.
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