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how was she a bitch? she's a reporter, and she doesn't ask fluff questions. she was mean to Pepper so she's a bitch? let's also not forget that the only reason his character talked to her was because she's "attractive" and the entire time he flirts with her and she's clearly not having it (but then they do it indicating that he's an asshole but also a charming one which was the point as we established).
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i haven't seen this yet but i bet she is a bitch because she's willful and snarky
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get the  fuck outta my press conference with that shit
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is tony stark gonn have to choke a bitch lol
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also I just remembered the worst part of the movie.

it's when he first wakes up and he pulls that thing out of his nose and everyone goes EWWWWWWWW and it's clearly for that purpose and I died a little.
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it's when he first wakes up and he pulls that thing out of his nose and everyone goes EWWWWWWWW and it's clearly for that purpose and I died a little.

Lol, so you try not to respond the way the director wants you to?

I definitely said "Ew," I mean shit, it was gross.
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no it's just stupid pandering bullshit and really didn't have a place in the movie.
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Fortunately it was also a short enough moment that I didn't even remember it until you mentioned it.
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so I was reading Filthy's review of this and while he and I usually agree I couldn't help but think he was being a wee bit critical with his arguments, but one of them was something I didn't think of and now feel stupid about.

why DID Obadiah hate Stark? I mean they are fucking business partners, he's making a lot of money, Stark was building fucktons of weapons BEFORE Obadiah had him kidnapped, and in general Obadiah could have killed Stark there or taken his share without getting some terrorist fuckheads to do it.

kind of doesn't make sense.
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idk i assumed it was some comic book related thing that the movie didn't cover, but i thought it seemed kind of like he maybe had his parents killed to take over the company, or even if he didn't, he felt he had a right to the company after stark's father died, and was probably resentful of tony coming in as a like 22 year old and taking over.  like, this should all be mine............... and instead he is clearly in stark's shadow!



also i don't know i didn't really see how him pulling the shit out of his nose was STUPID PANDERING BULLSHIT or whatever.  no one in the theater i was in even reacted and i just thought it was kinda gross but there to sort of convey how freaked out you'd feel if you were to wake up and find that someone operated on you.
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idk i assumed it was some comic book related thing that the movie didn't cover, but i thought it seemed kind of like he maybe had his parents killed to take over the company, or even if he didn't, he felt he had a right to the company after stark's father died, and was probably resentful of tony coming in as a like 22 year old and taking over.  like, this should all be mine............... and instead he is clearly in stark's shadow!

This.

I'm surprised Obadiah didn't say something like "I've been in you're shadow for too long!" or something, but that presentation at the beginning of the movie, where they show Obadiah in some magazines, and then behind Tony in a bunch more, clearly conveys the idea.



You have to assume the director and writers have these things done up, but probably didn't come out well enough in the movie. I didn't think of this until a few days later either, but I think the movie did well enough to keep me occupied both times (saw it twice lol), that a hole like this didn't stick out very much.
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I saw it on Monday, and it's my new favorite Marvel movie.  I liked it more than Spiderman, and I'm a huge Spiderman fan!

I have an interesting approach to watching movies.  While everyone follows the actors and the previous films they were in.  And they analyze the movie to the Nth degree, I do the exact opposite.  I barely know who Robert Downey Jr. IS, and I couldn't tell you another movie he was in.  With few exceptions, it's the same with all actors.  When I go see a movie, I see it with a blank slate.  I take it all in the way it was meant to be viewed, free of previous knowledge of how one actor was in some other role.  As far as I'm concerned, when I'm watching a movie, I'm not watching Downey Jr as IRON MAN.  I'm fucking watching Tony Stark becoming fucking Iron Man.

This Hollywood ignorance is fully intentional.  I prefer it that way.  Look at movie critics, they hate everything.  It's because they know every actor and role, they've seen it all way too many times, and now they're jaded.
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YES! That is how movies SHOULD be seen, and I think certain qualities of this movie make it successful because of that.

I am very glad that even the crabasses you mentioned, who go into a movie ready to hate it because of the people involved, liked Iron Man.
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I saw it on Monday, and it's my new favorite Marvel movie.  I liked it more than Spiderman, and I'm a huge Spiderman fan!

I have an interesting approach to watching movies.  While everyone follows the actors and the previous films they were in.  And they analyze the movie to the Nth degree, I do the exact opposite.  I barely know who Robert Downey Jr. IS, and I couldn't tell you another movie he was in.  With few exceptions, it's the same with all actors.  When I go see a movie, I see it with a blank slate.  I take it all in the way it was meant to be viewed, free of previous knowledge of how one actor was in some other role.  As far as I'm concerned, when I'm watching a movie, I'm not watching Downey Jr as IRON MAN.  I'm fucking watching Tony Stark becoming fucking Iron Man.

This Hollywood ignorance is fully intentional.  I prefer it that way.  Look at movie critics, they hate everything.  It's because they know every actor and role, they've seen it all way too many times, and now they're jaded.

this is pretty dumb.

see I don't think I've seen anything with Robert Downey Jr. in it or if I have I don't know (other than THE SHAGGY DOG), but I don't go into a movie predicting YES IT WILL BE GREAT IT WILL BE TONY STARK but rather the facts of the movie have to present themselves. I'm pretty sure most critics don't go into stuff thinking HMMM THIS ACTOR, although it does help form a critical review because you can say "he's doing the same character again and it's pretty boring" because a wider sense of context is useful.

no on is watching Robert Downey Jr play Iron Man but I think if you don't believe the character is real, I don't care what the movie says, they aren't anyone interesting or good. like the Man from Earth guy couldn't act at all and that ruins his character. there's a blank slate and then there's deliberate ignorance of context and ability.

idk i assumed it was some comic book related thing that the movie didn't cover, but i thought it seemed kind of like he maybe had his parents killed to take over the company, or even if he didn't, he felt he had a right to the company after stark's father died, and was probably resentful of tony coming in as a like 22 year old and taking over.  like, this should all be mine............... and instead he is clearly in stark's shadow!



also i don't know i didn't really see how him pulling the shit out of his nose was STUPID PANDERING BULLSHIT or whatever.  no one in the theater i was in even reacted and i just thought it was kinda gross but there to sort of convey how freaked out you'd feel if you were to wake up and find that someone operated on you.

it probably was the whole shadow thing but they never actually establish it. and also, Obadiah was already doing under the table shit, making ducats, I just don't see why he went through this elaborate plan to have terrorists kidnap a man and have him build a bomb Obadiah would probably give them anyways.

also I guess I can buy the "freaked out" thing but everyone in the audience going AAHAHAHHA EWWWWW made me feel kind of "ugh" about the whole scene. at least with ITS TIME FOR IRONMAN VS...UPGRADED IRONMAN... there was a sense of inevitability attached even if it was a dumb fight scene that we all knew was coming.
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why DID Obadiah hate Stark? I mean they are fucking business partners, he's making a lot of money, Stark was building fucktons of weapons BEFORE Obadiah had him kidnapped, and in general Obadiah could have killed Stark there or taken his share without getting some terrorist fuckheads to do it.

Greed.  Makes people do stupid things.  I just figured he was tired of following around this arrogant fuckhead.  The way he talked with the bald terrorist it was almost like they knew each other already (most likely how they got the weapons in the first place) so I'm guessing Obadiah was just like "heh kill two birds with one stone; get rid of Stark and make it look like a terrorist activity."

Think of it like this: war initially boosts the economy because spending goes up.  The military buys stark technology, terrorists buy stark technology.  One side grows stronger, the other side needs to compensate for the increase in power.  Stark Industries practically has a monopoly on the weapons share and no one fucking notices because half the deals are done under the table.
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Think of it like this: war initially boosts the economy because spending goes up.  The military buys stark technology, terrorists buy stark technology.  One side grows stronger, the other side needs to compensate for the increase in power.  Stark Industries practically has a monopoly on the weapons share and no one fucking notices because half the deals are done under the table.

This is a huge gamble though, because if anyone found out that terrorists were obtaining Stark weapons, Stark would be taking HUGE losses.
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no one notices because even though we have fucking satellites everywhere and shit we can't even see a bunch of fucking boxes in the open with the words STARK INDUSTRIES on them



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man he's fucking Nick Fury and he's talking about the Avengers how gay are you.

also one of the cooler things is how dialogue is a little SNAPPY/WITTY but also natural; people interrupt each other and don't get to finish their jokes or whatever. also it's kind of funny! a lot of it LOL HE FELL but yeah, it is funny.

oh wow what's that it's like a little device it's like a thing that'll pick the lock
you might wanna take a few steps back

the dialogue with the robots and jarvis was pretty STARWARS EPISODE 1 also

here's a gay reference that i think most people would have gotten: black army guy is war machine and says 'next time baby' or something looking at a spare set of iron man armor

also this is nick fury
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This is a huge gamble though, because if anyone found out that terrorists were obtaining Stark weapons, Stark would be taking HUGE losses.

I assumed they took it from American soldiers.  America gave Afghanistan weapons and trained their soldiers 20 years ago and everyone knows that pretty much every terrorist cell and freedom fighter uses second hand weapons that developed countries no longer want and sell off.  Besides, there's usually a middle man (arms dealer) that has a contract with a weapons distributor and it's up to him to determine who he sells it to.
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oh wow what's that it's like a little device it's like a thing that'll pick the lock
you might wanna take a few steps back

the dialogue with the robots and jarvis was pretty STARWARS EPISODE 1 also

here's a gay reference that i think most people would have gotten: black army guy is war machine and says 'next time baby' or something looking at a spare set of iron man armor

also this is nick fury


thats the old nick fury and he was huge gay.

new nick fury rules okkk