This story is probably one of the most retarded, I agree.

But I enjoy it, somehow part of me can't hate retarded stories. From all the spoilers I've seen (haven't played the game yet and won't in a while), I found myself enjoying them because inside I'm a stupid retarded fanboy.
That's kind of an exaggeration but yeah, I'm a sucker for shit. Oh man that sounds so wrong.

I did like the scene with Big Boss though. Hate me.

And I thought a major plot point of the series is that the main character (Naked most likely, but Solid to an extent too) couldn't enjoy life unless he was blowing brains out.

And I thought a major plot point of the series is that the main character (Naked most likely, but Solid to an extent too) couldn't enjoy life unless he was blowing brains out.

Solid was made to be a soldier so of course that this is the only thing he ever came back to. So yeah, one major theme through the series as an whole is "A soldier can only exist if there is a war". With the war over the only thing those two men (Naked, Solid and in retrospect the Boss) had left to do is die.

Makes me think of the full ending of Halo 3 which was the deepest plot point of the entire franchise maybe: The war is over so Master Chief don't care about being left behind. That's why he says to Cortana "Wake me up when they need me". He was only made to fight wars, nothing else.

Because I spent 90$ on MGS4 so I feel even more ripped off than Uncharted.

Besides, Uncharted was mostly gameplay so it didn't feel like buying a 15 hour long movie with 3 hours of playable segments.

is any of the bonus content worthwhile (in the collectors)? i got the regular edition and got some metal gear saga dvd with it free because of some promotion, what does the collectors edition have? i've mostly gathered these days collectors editions are an easy way to get more money by providing a terrible bonus dvd or something to this effect.

i loled a few times

like when meryl and her team do the little SAILOR MOON POSE thing, and naomi having MASSIVE CLEAVAGE, jesus christ.

is any of the bonus content worthwhile (in the collectors)? i got the regular edition and got some metal gear saga dvd with it free because of some promotion, what does the collectors edition have? i've mostly gathered these days collectors editions are an easy way to get more money by providing a terrible bonus dvd or something to this effect.

Hey what do you know!  The special edition comes with a BLU-RAY (not dvd god you suck i hate your guts) of a "making of" documentary and "behind the scenes" (where did this buzzword come from?  BEHIND THE SCENES) footage of game studio.  It also comes with a soundtrack which is really good.

Really, collector's editions are only for the hardcore fans or people who look at these things as an investment 20 years down the road.

big mama is what, 50+ and she has CLEAVAGE?

She is more likely to be 70+.

EDIT:

"In 2014, EVA, now an elderly woman at the age of 78, contacted Solid Snake during his mission to terminate Liquid Snake. She went under the codename "Big Mama"."

I just beat it. I have mixed feelings about it.

The gameplay is really good, I especially loved the early acts, it was a nice change from the usual fare. The addition of Drebin's shop made killing enemies fun, and customizing weapons was a nice touch too. Technically, this is the ultimate Metal Gear game. The gameplay-to-cutscene ratio was also better in the first few acts, it's kinda nice how this game favors cutscenes to codec calls, compared to MGS2 and 3. The gameplay keeps changing throughout the game, and it prevents it from getting boring (REX vs. RAY... wow!)

Now for the story... uh... I'll admit I'm a fan of the series, and that I love how ridiculous/bad-written/weird/convoluted the plot is in every game. I'm aware it's bad, but it's also funny, it's probably the high quality of the whole thing, and the little things Kojima likes to throw it. This game... it was too much at times. It's like some bad fanfiction trying hard to tie all the loose ends while throwing in every single character in the series for fanservice. The story is just an extension, other games could be played on their own, but this one depends too much on the other games. The part after the voice actors credits was really bad, it's just the worst way that scene could've been handled, and I hated how that guy keeps talking and won't die (of course, bringing him back in the first place was dumb, but still...)

With that said, the story has its highlights too. I enjoyed the action scenes, and the interactivity in some of them. The bosses were interesting too, not so much for their back stories (at least they have stories, unlike the ones in MGS3), but because of the neat ideas the battles had. I guess it's what you'd expect from the series after all.

I played some online games and I thought they were fun. I only played death match and sneaking mission, but I liked how well the new game mechanics are extended online. I haven't played the online expansion of MGS3 after all.

Overall it was a very good game. The story was really ridiculous (even for metal gear solid games), some of the cutscenes were too awkward and boring, and the whole nostalgia/fanservice thing was overdone. But it still had great gameplay, graphics, music, and atmosphere. I don't regret getting a PS3 for it, but I'd have really liked the game to be longer (I beat it in 20 hours, half of which are probably cutscenes). It would've nice if they had a battlefield part somewhere in the later acts (maybe in Europe?), both to extend gameplay and to balance the amount of cutscenes.

In retrospect, MGS1 is still the best game in the series. I'm not sure which is the next best game though, they all had their ups and downs; I guess MGS4 would be at the top when ranked by gameplay, and at the bottom when ranked by story.

This game has the most Cinematic Feel to a game i've ever experianced.
It was fantastic.
Saying that the storyline was abit WTF in places.
The main two gripes i had was that Liquid Snake was FUCKING RIPPED for an old guy, and that big mamma... Well im just going to say Big Mamma and leave it at that

I thought Drebin's Introduction was a bit of hit and miss. I didn't really mind his addition but maybe they should've put a delay on the recieving of the items, Like you place an order and the MK.II dissapears for a while, Then after a few minutes it shows up with the stuff.
It just occured to me i never used the MK.II at all during the game....

The BOSS Fights were fantastic.
Laughing octopus must've been my favorite.
I loved the ENTIRE act that crying wolf was in, That would be my favorite act. I was running around with Face Camo on and it all felt very Lost Planety.
Raging Raven i was dressed in the civi Costume and used the double shot. I loved that Chapter too it felt like an Old Noir Detective Movie. Trailing the dude, Avoiding guards and patrols. Fighting a winged beast in a tower.

Heh i remember back in the day when i was making a metal gear fan game with that guy Naked Snake. And i was talking about metal gear Vs Metal Gear Combat. And i proposed that snake should get his hands on a metalgear and pilot it against the newest model. And some guy on the forum said "No thats just stupid thats just fanboyish shit" well... FUCK YOU BUDDY!

I need to get a hub to hook up my PS3, Then i will give multiplayer a go.

Yeah, the story was a wee-bit akward at some points and there were some soap-operaish moments, but overall it was amazing. Tranq'd every boss, but I mean really, who didn't right?

Yeah, the story was a wee-bit akward at some points and there were some soap-operaish moments, but overall it was amazing. Tranq'd every boss, but I mean really, who didn't right?

I tranq'd both versions and found out later that you get statues for tranqing the beast.
Didn't Tranq mantis's though, Could not figure out how.

As for Metal Gear Online.
Im Having a blast. The Automaticing is useful it matches you with people around your skill.
I started off last on the list and after afew games was in the top 3. So it worked out nicely and has a pretty easy learning curve if you've played through solo. Although i think you have to spend money to buy more equipment, I dont know. how it works.
I'd like to get the FiveSeven though, As i use mostly Pistols and CQC

I liked MGO on Subsistence. Though, it wasn't all that great really. Anybody played the MGS3 MGO before and can compare it with MGS4's for me?

The problem with MGS3's MGO was mainly the controls not transitioning well from single to multilayer. Naturally MGS4 has much more improved controls which compliment the frantic style of the multi player.

But that's just me, alot of people seem to enjoy the original MPO, but I hated it. The only way I could kill was using auto aim, and even, then if you got tangled with someone else life or death is dependent on your health and ammo count. Also the whole crouch, stand thing was a total mess.

Yeah, like I said it wasn't all that great. Everybody used autoaim, there was no other way to succeed really. As for coming face to face, a quick stab to the foot was insta-kill....

Im still on the second act but this game is fantastic. I love the way the cut scenes are handled even though the story so far is a tad over the top. I dont mind the overly long sequences because I really enjoy the sickness of the graphics and the quality voice acting. So far I am not playing this game as a Metal Gear game but I'm not saying that as a bad thing, so far Im playing it as Metal Gear Rambo since I had around 233 kills in the first act and I'm not so far behind on the second act. Also, I didnt know you were suppose to tranq the bosses so Laughing Octopus is currently dead forever. Eh well. Ill probably try tranqing the rest of them or maybe just killing them and then just replay the game in tranq mode.

I also like how you can customize the weapons (aka furthering the Rambo aspect) like adding a silencer, shotgun, and handler thing on the m4. It's banging and this is my favorite MGS game out of all of them. I have yet to try out the online but I'll probably hit that up after I beat the game. Sick game.