I can't seem to remember it... oh well.

Anyways, dumb thing: when fighting Liquid, if he puts Snake in a choke hold don't press anything.  Liquid kisses Snake on the cheek.

I laughed.  I cried.

EDIT: BWAHAHAHA

so I've been playing this game, if you can really call it that. there's seriously no fucking gameplay, I pretty much have to decide OKAY I WANT TO WATCH MORE OF THIS MOVIE which is pretty annoying when half the cinematics are "DONT FORGET: WAR IS BAD".

I never really thought that would be a complaint I'd have but for fuck's sake this is ridiculous. I forgot to save after act 1 and skipped all the cinematics for it and seriously reached the end on normal difficulty in like 30 minutes.

this shit annoys the fuck out of me so far!

No gameplay?  I love the gameplay especially sneaking around and participating in the fights without being spotted.  Chasing Naomi in Act II is exhilarating if you decide not to storm through it and avoid getting spotted.

Them cutscenes are a different story.  Half of them are decent but the other half were like written for comedy movies in mind.  I want you to write down how long you laugh at the end of Act IV especially the scene where Raiden "saves the day" and Ocelot takes off running while taunting Snake who broke his arm (which is magically healed at the end of the act).

The fact that Mei Ling, a fucking CAPTAIN in the US Navy and CO of her own ship, was falling around, wearing the wrong uniform, and exposing her ass to everyone made me groan hard.

I give the game a six (outta 11).

p.s. before panda comes in here and throws a fit i want to let him know that i love fucking with his head and my original score was before i finished act 4 which is where the game's story seriously turns into a steaming turd.

its just I can't sit down and decide to play an hour of MGS4 like I can with any other game, because its fucking impossible. it really is more like OKAY TIME TO CONTINUE THE MOVIE and I'm just not in the mood half the time. I don't know why he made this decision to just be 90% cutscenes but it isn't conducive even remotely to pick up and play.

its just I can't sit down and decide to play an hour of MGS4 like I can with any other game, because its fucking impossible. it really is more like OKAY TIME TO CONTINUE THE MOVIE and I'm just not in the mood half the time. I don't know why he made this decision to just be 90% cutscenes but it isn't conducive even remotely to pick up and play.

Have you not played a MGS game? That's part of their appeal. If you don't like it, then shouldn't you have learned that you shouldn't be playing MGS games from the others? I mean this game has more cutscenes then the others, but I enjoyed all of it (a lot of it was really lame, but normally wasn't a killer or anything). And stop making up shitty statistics as it isn't really close to 90%.

MGS is not a pick-up and play game. you basically need to set time aside for it, and hope there are no interruptions. i don't mind this, but i imagine for many people this is a huge turn-off.

Have you not played a MGS game? That's part of their appeal. If you don't like it, then shouldn't you have learned that you shouldn't be playing MGS games from the others? I mean this game has more cutscenes then the others, but I enjoyed all of it (a lot of it was really lame, but normally wasn't a killer or anything). And stop making up shitty statistics as it isn't really close to 90%.

I used to think it was an exaggeration too but that was before I watched the making of disc and learned that the total amount of cutscenes is shy of 8 hours (MGS4's cinemas are longer than most commercial games jeezus).  Considering one of the accomplishments is beating the game in under 5 hours, 60-70% of the game being cutscenes is a fairly accurate statement.

Of course, you can say "well take your time with the game, then" to which I reply with "You can take your time with any game to stretch it out but that doesn't save it from a lack of content."  MGO really saves the game from being a horrible $60 purchase.  It's not like Uncharted which is 10 hours of pure gameplay for 60$.  This game is 5 hours of crawling on your stomach, tranq'ing guards, and watching cutscenes (oh yeah, press 'x' to view flashback) for 60$ and a good multiplayer experience if you like the game enough to give a damn..

Have you not played a MGS game? That's part of their appeal. If you don't like it, then shouldn't you have learned that you shouldn't be playing MGS games from the others? I mean this game has more cutscenes then the others, but I enjoyed all of it (a lot of it was really lame, but normally wasn't a killer or anything). And stop making up shitty statistics as it isn't really close to 90%.

WHOOPS NOT 90% THANKS FOR CORRECTING MY STATS don't be an idiot! I'd honestly say the MAJORITY of what I've played has been with the controller in my lap. also hahahaha HAS STEEL PLAYED AN MGS GAME.

my point is there's just this surprising dearth of actual gameplay so far. maybe I'm just great at games intrinsically though and firing my way through but I don't remember sighing and thinking "well I better beat MGS2 now". at least the cinematics there were also kind of interesting, but here I've had two conversations with this Drebin guy about shit I've figured out already. or this MISSION BRIEFING shit where you can drive around with a little camera. that shit lasted fucking forever and it's all dumb crap. the dialogue rehashes shit over and over or talks about stuff I don't care about. oh, the System has a great anti-hacking protection grid OKAY YOU SAID IT SHUT UP.

basically yeah this is the first game I've had to consciously make a decision that I'm going to have to commit a set number of hours to, and it's a weird feeling.

I agree with Steel, MGS4 is awesome.

harrrrgh right now okay they figured out that the System can control soldier's senses. they said it...and then CUT AWAY TO ANOTHER CUTSCENE explaining the whole damn thing. I figured this out when it happened, but hey, here it is talking about this. why does everything have to be so fucking overexplained? why can't they just say it and be done with it!

maybe I am just a supergenius not entertained by overexplaining but seriously if these cutscenes were entertaining I would not mind them as much! they are just WRODS WORDS WORDS that I've figured out already for the most part.

also I saw the octopus person when I hit L1 and Snake did not which is pretty weird.

edit: for fuck's sake it took like 30 minutes to finally reveal that Foxdie is a bioweapon, this is what the BEGINNING should have told us. someone needs to learn to write dialogue for these people!

so hey, is it possible to not kill the bosses, like in MGS2? like tranq them out? the octopus chick had too much health so I didn't bother!

so hey, is it possible to not kill the bosses, like in MGS2? like tranq them out? the octopus chick had too much health so I didn't bother!

Yes.  I did that to every boss.  It's a pain with the pistol but if you buy the sniper rifle that shoots darts it is much less of a hassle.  I am not certain what the special rewards are (I know there must be some) because I haven't beaten any of them the normal way!

the stupid thing about the solar gun is that there are actually five statues. four from the bosses, and one from a frog encounter (when you meet up with meryl) at the very start of the game. you need to use non-lethal means to beat this part and people have said if you shoot a frog while they are on a wall and they drop far enough, it counts as a kill for you. i had no problems on this part, but i have no idea why they added this fifth statue when they give you no real indication to use non-lethal weapons.

wait there actually is a solar gun, I thought that was a fakepost.

oh well it's not my copy of the game and I already killed the frog soldiers, so no big loss, it's just kind of funny. SOLAR GUN. what's it do?

After you defeat both their forms by stamina killing, you must acquire a small statue from the place you fought them. If you collect them all, you get the Solar Gun.

Son of a bitch I didn't know this

it's an infinite ammo gun because you can recharge it by holding O (takes maybe 20 seconds???). i don't know if you actually have to be outdoors for it to work. also you can vary the shot power by holding the fire button down longer and it shoots a ball of energy. it's basically a normal gun.

argh another mission briefing TIME TO BROWSE GW basically huh. also what's Naomi talking about, the trick to eggs is not to NOT SEE THEM, you have to see the eggs!!! the problem was she broke the yolk earlier.

SEE THE EGGS.

this is such a strange game, I don't know how to feel about it still. so much of it is cutscenes, and then there's all these aesthetic decisions, I don't know how I feel about it!!!

it's an infinite ammo gun because you can recharge it by holding O (takes maybe 20 seconds???). i don't know if you actually have to be outdoors for it to work. also you can vary the shot power by holding the fire button down longer and it shoots a ball of energy. it's basically a normal gun.

oh, so nothing too interesting for that level of work!

i downloaded a save with all the stuff unlocked. to do it for real you easily have to replay the game 10 times to get all the stuff, not to mention some of it is really hard to get. the stupid thing is, if you beat the game on BIG BOSS difficulty in under X hours and never get seen and all this other ridiculous stuff you get a SUPER GUN but you are already a mutant at playing the game and did everything so why bother? this is another reason why i downloaded a save, because i didn't want to get bored replaying it to earn stuff then never use the things i unlocked because i was sick of the game.

i don't think any of the secret items you get are particularly interesting. there's a lot of stuff to unlock but as a whole it's just quirky items. stealth camo is probably the best but i would never grind to get the money to buy it (5,000,000 drebin dubloons).