Topic: FUCK YOU CAPCOM (resident evil 5) (Read 6110 times)

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Slow moving zombies with RE4 controls? That would be TOO easy. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot..............
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That's true but if you count the fact that in previous games you had little ammo to find, so you could shoot them and waste ammo or you could just run past them?
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I would personally find it to be more racist if they took out the black guys for the sake of being black to avoid any complaints about killing... black people.
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I'll have you agree with that rant. RE4 was a great game, but I don't know why they decided to change a formula. It was one of a kind and always a refreshing play. Instead, they made the game easier and took away the main challenges in the original REs. I used to like having to dodge some zombies because I was low on ammo and being stuck on some puzzles. I did think they would make 5 more like the originals, but yeah... those screens look they could be for RE4.

EDIT: And what was up with the story for 4? Leon has to SAVE THE PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTER. What the fuck? Is this Bad Dudes? I honestly think the story for the series is the best in games and it sucks that they're ruining something that wasn't broke in the first place.
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That's true but if you count the fact that in previous games you had little ammo to find, so you could shoot them and waste ammo or you could just run past them?

I really really think the pacing of RE4 wouldn't work with an older Resident Evil game, regardless of how much ammo you had

And I think there were more than enough Resident Evil games with the old gameplay formula to satisfy anyone, but I guess having one that's REALLY REALLY BIG presentation-wise like this game would be nice. They'll have to make a spin-off like SURVIVOR except it's not a spinoff it's the same gameplay
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But RE4 was way better than any RE before it. So RE4.2 with better graphics suits me perfectly. But as good as RE5 looks, I'd be more excited if they announced a Wii version. The controls in RE4 Wii Edition are fucking perfect.



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EDIT: I've played RE 2, 3 and 4 I didn't bother to play RE 1 but anyways wouldn't it be cool to have the game set in asia possibly japan or something and have an asian lead in a japanese city I was never the urban type of terrain guy either. To tell you the truth they should use the game mechanics in RE 4 and 5 and make a completely new game with it, I also don't think the game is racist I mean the damn game is set in Africa, you expect to go there and see lots of white people? stop being so close minded and saying it's racist or not intentionally racist.

If the next game takes place in Tokyo I expect to play a Manchurian national working a dead end job trying to pay off tuition for his education all the while getting beat up by Yakuza and Shibuya street punks (and being ignored by the police because he's a foreign national oh no!).  After the beginning which introduces his smoking hot Japanese girlfriend (who looks as caucasian as humanly possible except she has a tan) all the Japanese people turn into zombies and you magically find AK's and rocket launchers to kill them all off while spouting Confucian proverbs and burning down Shinto shrines.

Yes.  This game would sell millions in Japan.

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Oh yes, but setting the next game in Africa makes it a lot more interesting and fun doesn't it? I mean how exactly would he obtain weapons without buying them off a merchant? I just suggested it might be better to set it in a city which might make things more interesting in my opinion I think it would be better than in some urban terrain.
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I think what's ironic that Capcom didn't think it would be a problem because it was Africa and black people tend to live there. I do admit that having a black character would soften the blow, but just the thought that people can't handle that scenario and demand a "multi-racial" zombie crowd are not being realistic. You should visit foreign countries, they have a lot of foreigners there.

I wonder how this would have went down if it took place more in the NE of Africa like Egypt where the more middle-eastern looking people live. It's still acceptable to kill them in mass numbers virtually, right?
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I mean how exactly would he obtain weapons without buying them off a merchant?
Like in previous installments: from bathrooms, busses, random office rooms, in a room beyond a classic squasher trap room, you know places that make 100% sense. Like, damn I need bullets for this shotgun, now where could i find some... oh theres a sewer entrance there thank god now I can get some bullets. Or damn I wish I had some acid grenades for the grenade launcher I found inside the chimney... oh wait theres that bathtub in that one room I bet if I drain away the muddy water it will reveal some acid grenades.


PS. these are not actual events in the series but they could be.
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btw for the sake of argument here is the old trailer:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ILuP43jcaXw


I'm anti-racist as hell but that doesn't look racist to me. Ignoring the fact it's a bit odd Chris would be sent into a place where he's the minority, it's basically just a different setting and as said, nobody had a problem with the previous game. Is it more racist suddenly because it's Africans instead of Spaniards? Saying that it's worse is almost racist in itself. I'm willing to say Capcom are probably really daft when it comes to cultural sensitivity but I think the suggestion that there's an intentionally racist element is a bit crazy. Chris is just one of the main characters, and although a black character would make more sense it doesn't change the fact that he's an agent in a different country and when shit goes to hell he has to fight to survive.

the thing is, on first glance, this really LOOKED VERY BAD. I mean, you've got a white dude coming in portrayed as saving a bunch of apelike Africans who want to club him on the head. take out the little subtitles and you've got a scene that just looks deliberately like a race war.

This is pretty true but anyone who ignores the fact that it's a videogame about flesh-eating zombies and gets their knickers in a twist without knowing the facts is a moron anyways.
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This is pretty true but anyone who ignores the fact that it's a videogame about flesh-eating zombies and gets their knickers in a twist without knowing the facts is a moron anyways.
Yeah we as gamers understand the fact that this is a video game and know how Resident Evil works. We all know this isn't intentional, but the media is going to eat this shit up man. They complained about a sex scene in Mass Effect, when it didn't even show any nudity and the game is rated Mature. Some are going to be skeptical if they've never played a video game before or are mild gamers.

People need to be more open minded, but you know they're going to jump to conclusions here(sadly).
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poor resi5...so misunderstood
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I'm anti-racist as hell but that doesn't look racist to me. Ignoring the fact it's a bit odd Chris would be sent into a place where he's the minority, it's basically just a different setting and as said, nobody had a problem with the previous game. Is it more racist suddenly because it's Africans instead of Spaniards? Saying that it's worse is almost racist in itself. I'm willing to say Capcom are probably really daft when it comes to cultural sensitivity but I think the suggestion that there's an intentionally racist element is a bit crazy. Chris is just one of the main characters, and although a black character would make more sense it doesn't change the fact that he's an agent in a different country and when shit goes to hell he has to fight to survive.
What?  First of all, do you not understand that there's a different racial dynamic between whites and blacks than there is between whites and SOUTH AMERICANS?  One is absolutely worse because the reason it's bad to begin with is because it's a white guy exclusively killing a bunch of black guys.  Something like that touches on a history of racial tension that goes back several hundred years, and that's why it's notable.  A white guy going into a South American village and killing villagers doesn't touch on anything nearly as bad.  Secondly, I don't think anyone knows where in Africa this game takes place yet, and there are a ton of areas in Africa that are composed of a lot more than just black people.  Considering this is CAPCOM, I wouldn't be surprised if this shit took place in ALGERIA or EGYPT or some shit and they just threw a bunch of blacks in there because hey, Africa is Africa, right?  The fact that there's a new trailer showing much more cultural diversity lends credence to the fact that, wherever this is in Africa, it's probably not an area comprised solely of blacks.

No one in the topic is saying it's intentionally racist or malicious or anything, but racism doesn't need to be intentional or malicious to exist, and for the most part we're just saying it's dumb and insensitive.

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Yeah we as gamers understand the fact that this is a video game and know how Resident Evil works. We all know this isn't intentional, but the media is going to eat this shit up man. They complained about a sex scene in Mass Effect, when it didn't even show any nudity and the game is rated Mature. Some are going to be skeptical if they've never played a video game before or are mild gamers.
Ahaha, to be fair, the people who targeted the Mass Effect sex scene probably won't be too perturbed by some white guy killing a village full of blacks.  RACIAL SENSITIVITY isn't really a big ticket issue for the pundits of places like Fox News, unless they're knocking it as being too PC and oversensitive.
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One is absolutely worse because the reason it's bad to begin with is because it's a white guy exclusively killing a bunch of black guys. 

It would be a lot worse if one of the unlockable secret costumes was blackface.
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Like in previous installments: from bathrooms, busses, random office rooms, in a room beyond a classic squasher trap room, you know places that make 100% sense. Like, damn I need bullets for this shotgun, now where could i find some... oh theres a sewer entrance there thank god now I can get some bullets. Or damn I wish I had some acid grenades for the grenade launcher I found inside the chimney... oh wait theres that bathtub in that one room I bet if I drain away the muddy water it will reveal some acid grenades.


PS. these are not actual events in the series but they could be.

Because there aren't hundreds of civil conflicts in Africa, fueled by other foreign countries shuttling arms to which ever group they favor at the moment. I feel like heavy arms in a poor African village ruled by a militant group would be a little more understandable than some random Spanish town.

All this racist talk is somewhat annoying. The whole 'theres no humanity here' thing is sort of blown out of proportion. You take a village full of non-zombies, then have a evil group of ruling militants and I wouldn't see a whole lot of humanity either, if the militants are like real life then their probably pretty bad heartless people. I think the setting of the game is pretty interesting.
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What?  First of all, do you not understand that there's a different racial dynamic between whites and blacks than there is between whites and SOUTH AMERICANS?  One is absolutely worse because the reason it's bad to begin with is because it's a white guy exclusively killing a bunch of black guys.  Something like that touches on a history of racial tension that goes back several hundred years, and that's why it's notable. 


This is true, I probably should've thought more about that, I basically just said that because I was tired and I wasn't taking real world events into account. I'm just still not convinced I should be that bothered about a fictional scenario where the people designing it are obviously not racist, just daft as hell. Although we all seem to agree on that point so yeah!

I guess I'd be more bothered if this was being made by a bunch of American white guys since they'd definitely have a large multi-cultural element in their lives and wouldn't have an excuse to be thick when it comes to this. As it is I think the change of scenery will be interesting.
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I'm just still not convinced I should be that bothered about a fictional scenario where the people designing it are obviously not racist, just daft as hell.

This is very sad that you cannot accept this possibility. I hope you see why.
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Because there aren't hundreds of civil conflicts in Africa, fueled by other foreign countries shuttling arms to which ever group they favor at the moment. I feel like heavy arms in a poor African village ruled by a militant group would be a little more understandable than some random Spanish town.
My point was more how the RE as a series doesn't make a whole lot of sense in how you can find ammunition and guns at the most stupid places ever most of the time and the puzzles had stuff like put-diamonds-into-statues-at-the-police-station puzzles that are just completely insane in that who the fuck has built this mechanism and why? So whether you are in a military warehouse or in the sewers the amount of guns and ammo you find is the same.

Its pretty stupid to complain about it, I know, since its just a videogame. But its just so inconsistent how some of the puzzles for example were like ok I need an ID card to log into this terminal to open electric locks and then there are the stupid ass collect relics puzzles and some otherworldy magical paintings.

I've only played RE1, 2 and a bit of 3 and some ps2 ones but they all seemed to suffer from these 'problems' I dont know if the later ones are more, idk, realistic in this area.

But if I ever get my hands on a new console I'll get Silent Hill 5 and not this because I'm genuiely interested in SH5 but Resident Evil hasn't really interested me at all after the ps1 ones. Now I know SH also is pretty stupid in its puzzles and places you can get ammo and guns but the games are all so fucked up anyway it feels less out of place.
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I've only played RE1, 2 and a bit of 3 and some ps2 ones but they all seemed to suffer from these 'problems' I dont know if the later ones are more, idk, realistic in this area.

RE4 pretty much tossed "puzzles" out the window and since you were in a pretty militant village I'm not surprised that there were weapons hanging around (although why pitchfork wieldings villagers carried grenades and shotgun shells but not the guns themselves is beyond me but LOL VIDYA MECHANICS).

But yeah, RE2 was the pinnacle of retarded puzzles.  I know the chief was a psycho but having a police precinct built around an esoteric chess based labryinth was ridiculous.  RE3 was a lot more "realistic" in that it had environmental based puzzles (cut fuel line, fill gas tank, etc. etc.) but then Code Veronica came around and it got ridiculous again.