Was there a closet on dead air? I don't recall one for that specific finale.

Yeah, there is one. Some guy found it while me and Sarevok were playing. It's near the edge of the map in the building. Just go left of the turret and you will find it.

It is pretty cheap, though. There's a reason why the maps are edited for Versus mode. In fact, you can apply the same tricks in every single level when you have to prepare for the horde. Having 4 people sit in a corner while you melee basically makes you unstoppable. No infected class can do anything to you at all. I know there's also a cooldown time for melee if you join certain servers in Versus(it might be all of them I'm not sure), because melee is basically a frontal shield. I'm only really using the closet method to help me get achievements, anyway. Everyone is already picking up on it.

Some guy, Neo? SOME GUY? WHO COULD IT HAVE BEEN

Dude was it really you? AGAIN!?

gomennasai, I play with too many people.

who the HE*LL is HI IM GODOT i've asked this a thousand times.

He's a friend of mine. Not from here, but wanted to join GW group anyways, and so they let him in. He's very capable, and a great team player.

I'm actually thinking of buying this for the computer! The last game I bought on the computer was the Sims 2, so it's pretty exciting stuff. Do you guys play on the PC or the 360? (It sounds like the PC, but...) Also I know you can get a physical copy of the disc without using Steam, but would I still be able to play with people who DO use Steam?

Thanks for the help, if anyone knows anything. I don't play many video games but this one is really fun, so any help is appreciated.

Yeah, you'd still play with Steam people.

Because all a physical copy really does is save you time on the Steam download.

Oh, Steam..

In europe, at least.

In america, same price.

Well besides TF2 I really can't say, it's just a waste of time to collect them, at least I didn't give two shits about any Episode2 achievements or any of the achievements on the Valve supported mods (and in DIPRIPs case they were like GET 1 KILL, GET 3 KILLS, GET 5 KILLS all the way up to like GET 1000 KILLS so it's just pointless because you are going to do that anyway if you play it a lot). Needs a reward.

I'm not certain but doesn't XBOX/360 games all have achievements and you get XBOX POINTS or whatever that you can spend buying shit from xbox live??

I'm not certain but doesn't XBOX/360 games all have achievements and you get XBOX POINTS or whatever that you can spend buying shit from xbox live??

Nah, you get reward points for achievements and they're worth absolutely nothing except for bragging rights.  I'm sure maladroithim has some longwinded story about how he pissed off a 10 year old boy or something by flaunting his massive amount of points.