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Haha I love that fake achievement, it made me laugh :P
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Reviving GW... through L4D Steam Friends...

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cute gimmick.....
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hah hey Farmrush, ya I decided to join GW since I'm friends with about half of them anyways :P
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hah hey Farmrush, ya I decided to join GW since I'm friends with about half of them anyways :P
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oh that was harsh

i'm sorry p-burn :(




That being said, whenever I stop being lazy/having 10815 things to do(school/work) I should go and buy this game. :(
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I haven't bought it yet, but are you guys still playing it after you've beaten it maybe 3-4 times already? I figure it's worth the purchase if it has tons of replay value...otherwise, HAMACHI.

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Man, there are two issues dragging this game down for me.

1) I havent really played much with GW people! The matchmaking system is FRAUGHT WITH FRUSTRATION because I keep getting teamed with MORONS. i dont usually get angry at people in games (in fact, I never do) but there's so many instances of dumbfuckery with...with...with PUBBIES.
2) I've never been matched to a server with three full bars of ping for me. I'm always red or orange. I played a singleplayer game tonight and what a different it is when every single shot you make actually connects and there's no lag in animations and shit. I wonder if Valve will optimize netcode or if I've just got a really lousy network. It's certainly not unplayable with a bit of lag, but a solid connection does make it all the better.
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Haha hey Psyburn and Lodestar it's been a while :P

and Lode, get the game quickly I need to play with you again lol.
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Man, there are two issues dragging this game down for me.

1) I havent really played much with GW people! The matchmaking system is FRAUGHT WITH FRUSTRATION because I keep getting teamed with MORONS. i dont usually get angry at people in games (in fact, I never do) but there's so many instances of dumbfuckery with...with...with PUBBIES.
2) I've never been matched to a server with three full bars of ping for me. I'm always red or orange. I played a singleplayer game tonight and what a different it is when every single shot you make actually connects and there's no lag in animations and shit. I wonder if Valve will optimize netcode or if I've just got a really lousy network. It's certainly not unplayable with a bit of lag, but a solid connection does make it all the better.

I've been noticing better pings lately. Also I seem to start out in red/orange sometimes and then after about 2-3mins I go to green. Although I don't really notice it because the L4D ranking system is like:

<120 Green
120-130 Orange
131> Red

well you get the idea
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Some more GW games would be great, but with the low player limit I guess its tough to get everyone together.
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You know I've been wondering what the fuck is the ping icon supposed to represent? Like, there's 3 bars, and 3 colors. Why?

At first I wasn't even sure what the fuck the icon was, but shortly after I guessed it was ping and something else (3 bars). I thought maybe they were like ping, fps, and score or some shit like that. It's beyond me why you wouldn't just have a number that says the exact thing, and color the text if it's so important.

I don't know if the said icon is some CONSOLE STANDARD ICON (the game is pretty consoleish to my understanding as far as internet gaming goes) but this is the first time I've encountered it and it just doesn't really do the job. How bad of a ping is red bars? Like 150+ ping? Orange is 100+?

It's not much of a problem since you can tell if you are lagging just by playing and seeing zombies warping around but still.


Also I really wish there'd be more weapons. I understand there isn't much room for more powerful weapons without making the game too easy or some weapons obsolete but I dunno, there's just 2 tiers of weapons + pistols. Also, more maps please and gives us the SDK so we can make em too.
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Displaying the number would be infinitely better because I have to console in "ping" every time I'm not in the green so I can actually figure out what my ping is.

Also yeah, some weapon tweaks and more weapons would be interesting. It'd also be interesting if the weapon spawns were more randomized after they have more than three tier-2 weapons so they could spawn as "Autoshotty/Hunting rifle" or "M16/Railgun" (oh god plz don't add a railgun) and force players to make decisions as well as changing the gameplay up a bit more.

I suspect this will all come soon along with the SDK. They are most likely focusing on all of the major issues present before they continue to add more content. I'd also like to think that Dead Air and Death Toll are in the works for versus.
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Displaying the number would be infinitely better because I have to console in "ping" every time I'm not in the green so I can actually figure out what my ping is.

Also yeah, some weapon tweaks and more weapons would be interesting. It'd also be interesting if the weapon spawns were more randomized after they have more than three tier-2 weapons so they could spawn as "Autoshotty/Hunting rifle" or "M16/Railgun" (oh god plz don't add a railgun) and force players to make decisions as well as changing the gameplay up a bit more.

I suspect this will all come soon along with the SDK. They are most likely focusing on all of the major issues present before they continue to add more content. I'd also like to think that Dead Air and Death Toll are in the works for versus.

Agreed Farmrush, typing ping into the console every time is annoying (despite how lazy that sounds lol). I'm also looking forward to the new material Steam will release for L4D, I'm in love with this game <3
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I suspect this will all come soon along with the SDK. They are most likely focusing on all of the major issues present before they continue to add more content. I'd also like to think that Dead Air and Death Toll are in the works for versus.
I'd say MORE CONTENT is the biggest issue. Personally I haven't really encountered any issues with the gameplay like bugs or unbalanced weapons/infected, but maybe you have something in mind? I've only played this for like 2 days so what the fuck would I know.
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I'd say MORE CONTENT is the biggest issue. Personally I haven't really encountered any issues with the gameplay like bugs or unbalanced weapons/infected, but maybe you have something in mind? I've only played this for like 2 days so what the fuck would I know.

Well they just released two patches on the 4th and 5th that addressed some BIG ISSUES (you can check this in Steam: right click L4D and go to update news). I don't have a ton of issues with the game now beyond the scoring system and 'closeting' and although nothing comes to mind in terms of technical issues I know I've seen some here and there.

Also did anyone notice that they changed up the infected animations? You'll now see infected laying down more.
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Ya I agree with you Supra, more content will be needed in the later months I'd say, I'm content with the game as of now. As for bugs and unbalanced weapons, Steam was pretty quick to fix most of the exploits people have found and abused (including me :P). They still haven't gotten rid of the melee exploit though, which I am not complaining about :D

And the closets Farmrush mentioned :P Sure they make things very easy, but the games supposed to be challenging right? I think Steam needs to get rid of those.
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I'd like to see variations on the gameplay, ie more than just FIVE MAPS TO A CAMPAIGN GET TO THE SAFE ROOM LAST MAP FINALE format. A progressive, wave based defense map would be really cool. Maybe you're tyring to hold a military base or a mall or something cliched!

Another thing I've sort of considered is a CLASSIC ZOMBIE mode. Like, where infected move slowly but do wya more damage. It'd be really cool if they could even infect you, and you'd have to find a vaccine or finish the level or something or else you'd turn......and your team would gun you down.

edit: also yeah, I was sort of surprised to see a lot more infected on the floor. I also found several fighting each other, just punching each other around, idk if that was there before.
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Another thing I've sort of considered is a CLASSIC ZOMBIE mode. Like, where infected move slowly but do wya more damage. It'd be really cool if they could even infect you, and you'd have to find a vaccine or finish the level or something or else you'd turn......and your team would gun you down.


Ooo that reminds me of Resident Evil: Outbreak if anyone dared to play that shitty game :P The idea was great, but the result is something that of an trash baby :P But I definitely would like to see some kind of mode where you can turn into the infected overtime.
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Another thing I've sort of considered is a CLASSIC ZOMBIE mode. Like, where infected move slowly but do way more damage. It'd be really cool if they could even infect you, and you'd have to find a vaccine or finish the level or something or else you'd turn......and your team would gun you down.

There's a mod in garry's mod that does EXACTLY THIS, to the letter, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was called. And no, it's not zombie panic. Basically you start with 1 player on the zombies team and everyone else survivors. You've gotta hold off waves and waves of zombies, including the 'special' player zombie for as long as possible. As you kill zombies/collect food and wood and shit you can 'buy' new guns, ammo and health kits. You can use the wood and stuff to barricade places in town. At random intervals the game will automatically infect one of the survivors, who then has to run to the randomly generated vaccine on the map. Players can always see where the vaccine is, but it's always in the open and never anywhere defensible, and it changes location after you use it. When people die/are infected for too long they become zombies (much like ZP). Game ends when everyone's dead.It also has glorious slow zombies which beat you to a pulp in seconds, although they are glitchy gmod style zombies.

It's such a simple mechanism, but it works PERFECTLY because 'hiding in a closet' forever never works, as you'll have to go out and get vaccine at some point. The game doesn't let up on attacks either, so you've be offensive or you'll die.

The defence ideas....aka the finales? :p But I get what you mean, I imagine there will be mods doing this. (I intend to do one!)