Really? I've got it downloading right now. I should stop downloading the 1.10GB HIGH DEF eps, it doesn't matter how SHARP it looks when it's just 40 minutes of people talking. I really like watching the ACTION PACKED eps in HD, because the production values on the show are really good, but it takes me all fucking day to download them because there are never as many seeders on the HD releases as the SD.

yeah this one stank. i posted this elsewhere about it:

Yeah, this episode was dodgy as hell. I really have been liking where the story and the characters have been going recently and with a couple of exceptions, this undone pretty much all of what has been built in the last 4 or so episodes. I'll go through a couple of characters that actually annoyed me who are usually my favourites to watch:

Chief - voting to jetski the hell outta there. What? I thought that whole "I'm a cylon, I'm beyond caring..." bit was the first half of the season, bud. In the last three episodes you've been acting like that great old guy we all remember, but a new more intense version of him by having had yourself really challenged and emerging from the other end just as good as you ever were. But...since we needed some kind of suspense in this episode, I guess SOMEONE had to vote know with silly old Tory, I guess? I would rather have been a little bored than totally let down by Chief's character development in this one.

Baltar - This season Baltar has had about 6 revelations about how pathetic and selfish he has always been, and while that led him down the path of religion in the first half of the season, since Earth it has been seeming like he has been actually trying to be good for people - to be more honest, less petty and stupid about things. Tonight he was, while yeah AMUSING I guess, where he was at about 10 episodes ago. I mean yeah he did seem more sincere about helping people with the food and all that towards the end, but really we have hit this character note so many times now it feels like going backwards. James Callis being clumsy is getting dangerously close to being hacknyed, now.

Ellen - Well, shit. If this is how it's gonna be Ellen, you can fuck off back to the baseship. I liked you there.

Boomer - not so much anything she did. She's made a choice by coming to Galactica I am enjoying and I look forward to seeing what she's got in store in the next couple of weeks (i haven't read spoilers, or anything), but I was disappointed in how Bill's response was basically "Get that thing in the brig.". We're so past that crap. Hold her for questioning, by all means. In fact I would have loved to see a nice long scene of Adama and Boomer in a room alone together, working all her shit out. But nahhh, we've got Ellen-Tigh-Caprica love triangle hi-jinx to get to.


and Jane Espenson wrote this anomalous wreck? Huh.

Hopefully the weird reverse character development stuff will have disappeared for next week and we'll get the actual next step in this story.

Although, I did like the stuff about Galactica becoming a blended beast. This is obviously the show's closing statement, and I just wish we could have focused on that rather than what was, like someone said, soap opera level shit. I actually didn't mind Bill's wandering around the bowels of the ship looking all "what the fuck am i getting into..." because it just provided a cool visual representation of what he was thinking and especially since his conclusion at the end of the episode was "this is what we need to do.". He knows it's the next step - I just wish the rest of the episode could have focused on that rather than actually undermining that message with the entire final five plotline and Boomer's imprisonment - which was another move that reeked of plot convenience at the expense of character development.

Tigh, on the other hand, dug his heels in and told his family to get to fuck if they want, but he's not budging. Thanks, buddy.

It was a shitty ep. after the first 15 mins I just minimized that sucker and listened to it while reading about stuff. I don't think I missed anything that wasn't pointless or yeah a step backwards

Yeah jamie I agree with you on pretty much every point, especially the thing about Chief. The moment he said I SAY WE GO, I thought "what the fuck?" He JUST saved the fleet by preventing Galactica from jumping during the insurection, he accepted Adama's offer to rejoin the crew, and he's overseeing a huge repair detail ON GALACTICA. And yet the SECOND the opportunity presents itself, he wants to run? Like you said man, they just needed SOMEONE to be with Tory and he was the easiest one to fudge I think. It felt like a filler episode overall though. Just like Mark, I had it minimized often.

i watched the mini-series again last night. it's cool how much bigger the world seems in that thing. i mean i know there's no indefinable quality to that - after the mini-series, it's a whole lot smaller! but it was like watching all these dickheads i've been watching for years except i dunno them at all!

the mini-series is not bad. it's different, aesthetically anyway

those cylons certainly were evil robot masterminds back then eh? with the way they've changed so much almost makes you think...ronald d moore never had a frackin idea what he was gonna do next.

those cylons certainly were evil robot masterminds back then eh? with the way they've changed so much almost makes you think...ronald d moore never had a frackin idea what he was gonna do next.

Well that's pretty obvious isn't it? I think he's been fairly honest that he didn't have any huge master plan for the series. They apparently have writer's meetings and throw around ideas to see what sticks and seems awesome. When someone asks "How do we get out of this one?" they just go "We'll figure that out later. This is too good to pass up."

I don't really mind that approach as long as you know that's how it is.

I too liked the early episodes where the Cylons were a strange and unknown threat but the fact is they couldn't really do that forever.

Well that's pretty obvious isn't it? I think he's been fairly honest that he didn't have any huge master plan for the series. They apparently have writer's meetings and throw around ideas to see what sticks and seems awesome. When someone asks "How do we get out of this one?" they just go "We'll figure that out later. This is too good to pass up."

I don't really mind that approach as long as you know that's how it is.

I too liked the early episodes where the Cylons were a strange and unknown threat but the fact is they couldn't really do that forever.

yeah i know. i don't like that approach i think it's dumb and leads to vague shit.


i just watched the new episode. i thought it was a pretty good episode. i will watch it again and see if i still think that.

I liked the cold start. At least Kara's part. It was one of the better openings. It was more DOOM AND GLOOM but I really enjoyed the editing. The episode overall was another slow one, but one of the better slow ones to be sure, with some neat developments. I actually enjoyed the piano stuff too, and the final 3 episodes of the season should be good now!

i watched it again and i think the entire boomer storyline was terrible which was a big disappointment cos i was looking forward to that. i thought the opening was really good, yeah. it just sold the changes that have been happening and how everyone is more or less dead already anyway. starbuck's storyline was pretty good this week, i liked her. i usually don't like starbuck at all.

battlestar galactica has never been a show about character - and it's taken me until recently to figure this out - but the characters get sacrificed for minor plot beats all the time and it is terrible. i don't actually give a shit about many of the characters anymore, and the ones i do i could care less about the next week depending on how they are written. why did boomer do what she did this episode? is she just pure evil now and that's it? great stuff. helo fucking her in the bathroom was dumb as well but they needed him to let her go so she could go on with her plan. stupid writing, and it's probably been this stupid for almost the entire series and i just missed it before.

Yeah I was going to say this, I don't like episodes that delve TOO DEEPLY into characterization - because the writers will just FUCK THEIR SHIT UP without much of a second thought. It's why the Lee/Kara loveplot was so fucking annoying, it kept swinging wildly one way and then the other. Kara and Chief are two of the worst victims of the writers, Roslin and Baltar too, though Baltar can be JUSTIFIED a little in that it's in his nature to be wishy washy and a bit of a weasel. Honestly, Helo is one of the best characters because at least he's pretty FIRM - you can tell that he's a ROCK JAW DUTY MAN but if it comes between duty and Athena, he'd probably choose the latter. He's one of the only characters the writers don't really fuck with.

I liked the episode. The part when Starbuck and her father where playing All Along the Watchtower was amazing. It gave me chills with how everything just culminated in that instant, and then I was shocked when the Cylons came up to her and she was sitting alone all this time. Great little twist. I really think that that was Daniel who she was talking to. The natural assumption is to consider an artist to be someone who draws/paints but music is an art so I think it fits. It would also explain why Starbuck died and came back - she's a hybrid like Hera.

I liked the ep. I thought it was a good ep.

I'm surprised by the number of slow episodes lately.  You'd think they would want to get moving with the plot.  Still, the last episode was good.  Ever since Sam saw Starbuck in a bright light, it's been pretty clear she's some kind of Cylon.

Hi gents and dames I have a leaked script fragment from the finale:


INT. ADAMA'S QUARTERS - LATE NIGHT

ADAMA is hunched up against the wall,
grimacing madly.

ADAMA
Boo-Hoo
[sniffs]
Wah-Wah...

He chugs some whiskey. It burns good.

FADE OUT

Wow looks like we're in for some more of that Adama-Drama.

To Galactica. *raises glass*

That was a good episode, I thought.  There's a lot at stake now, and it's starting to feel like the end of the second act finally.