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16
87 51.5%
-16
67 39.6%
I don't know how to do this math
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So today I typed "-4^2" into my calculator and asked my friend, who loves to correct people, to tell me what the answer to the equation was that I had typed into my calculator. He joyfully yelled "16" and then I hit enter and he's like "YOU NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC! WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT?" I found that quite funny.
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I like how you call Alec me because he's not a fucking moron. DIDN'T LEARN MATH
i call him you because his post was pretty much a steel post???

just look at it. it looks like steel posting.

also i meant pointless as in some people pretty much don't achieve anything ever it has nothing to do with math. just sayin that most people dont learn anything useful at all and have boring jobs all their lives for no reason at all.

SO kaworu's point kind of sucks since MOST PEOPLE DON'T LEARN ADDITIONAL LANGUAGES, MOST PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT ART etc yeah most people dont learn math. that doesnt mean there's anything wrong with the beauty of mathematics.
Last Edit: February 23, 2009, 08:21:11 pm by larsdood
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hey lars look at that you're using triple question marks and lower case letters and being a dick.

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im not sure we're all operating on the same definition of cheesy as ARTISTIC MERIT has nothing to do with cheese???
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i really want this locked btw. my question has been more than answered and now im picking fights because im a grouchy gus.
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the sad thing is DS predicted a 70/30 split favoring -16 and it's actually like 56/44 or something and the divide is possibly larger than it was the first time around.
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the point is there's no need for people to get so upset about people not knowing something they don't need to know. Like I'm not going to get into a paddy everytime someone says Tracy Emin's my bed or Carl Andre's Equivalent aren't art because shock horror most people don't really know about that kinda thing.  people who don't know maths are worthless ~ Lars09
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No, but I'm saying 'most people' doesn't mean shit as 'most people' are obese, unskilled idiots who have a lousy job, a bitter wife, shitty children and speaks but one language. I honestly don't get the 'most people' argument because living the lives that 'most people' do sounds pretty boring so yeah, fuck that shit!

I don't even care that much about mathematics, I meet a lot of people who know a lot, like people who randomly speaks fluently Russian or people who construct electronical devices themselves at home or people that are good at instruments. But most people are boring shits who can fix their cars or know what make-up is the best under certain conditions and those are not the kind of people one should aspire to be!

Pieces of shit that pretty much vote exclusively based on their xenophobia, who get shit drunk and go around picking fights with random people, that can name the last 20 entries in FHM but thinks caring about anything related to intellectual activity is retarded. Fuck that shit.
Last Edit: February 23, 2009, 08:35:21 pm by larsdood
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I should just not have answered. :\
I forgot all my "basic maths" upon leaving high school.
why equal emm ex plus bee?
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Hey guys there is a ball/object of unknown weight how much time does it take for it to hit the ground when released at any height, and also what would its position be at any given time.

Hint: Acceleration remains constant (-9.81 m/s^2 due to gravity) no matter what the time and disregard drag.

Absolutely no real calculus operations here, but can be solved if you know basic algebra and what a definition is. How do you go about doing this?

I mean shit not that it's an important problem at all (who cares about a fucking ball falling to the ground) but try and tell me that someone who knows calculus wouldn't at least have a much easier time going about solving this.
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Hey 9-5 ain't the life for me also(I refuse to live that kind of life) but I'm not going to judge people on it as a great deal of them are happy with what they do, a lot also aren't but that's the same with everything. It's their lives and people live how they live for different reasons.
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Hey guys there is a ball/object of unknown weight how much time does it take for it to hit the ground when released at any height, and also what would its position be at any given time.

Hint: Acceleration remains constant (-9.81 m/s^2 due to gravity) no matter what the time and disregard drag.

Absolutely no real calculus operations here, but can be solved if you know basic algebra and what a definition is. How do you go about doing this?

I mean shit not that it's an important problem at all (who cares about a fucking ball falling to the ground) but try and tell me that someone who knows calculus wouldn't at least have a much easier time going about solving this.

yeah okay thats a math problem.

meaning.

no one cares.

i will never need to do this. i'm not sure you get what the point of REAL LIFE SITUATION is.

oh fuck dude my gutters are clogged i better clean NO WAIT

AT WHAT RATE IS THE FLUID FALLING.
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similarly, i don't remember the last time i had negative sixteen of anything.
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NEWS ALERT: KNOWING MATH HELPS MATH PROBLEMS.

yeah no one was talking about that. marmot was arguing that you can analyze things better if you do CALCULUS instead of ALGEBRA and I really don't think any new brain pathways or whatever are created by calculus. the same analytical shit is used in both, they are just different. if there was an increase in analytical stuff it would be so weak and minimal that it would be insignificant. this is why when faced with big decisions the president does not pick up a phone and say

GET ME A MATHEMATICIAN

because these same pathways are developed by poli sci dudes, writers, philosophers, just everyone.
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similarly, i don't remember the last time i had negative sixteen of anything.

the topic was never about that though, it's just someone brought up calculus being a high school level class, I mentioned the benefits of calculus to a non math situation are minimal, and then marmot tried to say NO

YOU WILL DO BETTER IN LIFE WITH CALCULUS. IT TEACHES YOU...ANALYSIS.
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It's not about the problem itself. I specifically said no one gives a shit about a falling object. I'm saying that there are a lot of situations where a someone who just does more complicated math in general would be better at going about solving the problem.

fake edit: If there was like a ELECTION CRISIS obviously you don't need algebra. The poli sci dudes, writers, and philosophers probably don't know beyond the most basic level of algebra but their problems are of a totally different sort, what's your point? If some expensive thing needs to be modified would a political scientist even know where to start?
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It's not about the problem itself. I specifically said no one gives a shit about a falling object. I'm saying that there are a lot of situations where a someone who just does more complicated math in general would be better at going about solving the problem.

fake edit: If there was like a ELECTION CRISIS obviously you don't need algebra. The poli sci dudes, writers, and philosophers probably don't know beyond the most basic level of algebra but their problems are of a totally different sort, what's your point? If some expensive thing needs to be modified would a political scientist even know where to start?

what?

the whole point is marmot said CALCULUS, not math, CALCULUS, specifically increases your analytical abilities in such a way that it affects every day life.

I'm arguing that I think these basic analytical skills are set up in algebra already and while there are a few instances where calculus makes you think in a different way for a a problem, comparing it to something like the liberal arts in how it affects basic thought process seems a little fuckin grandiose.

I mean the only times I could tell calculus had improved me in some real tangible way was when I thought about zeno's paradoxes or really neat math shit. I do not think by doing lots of math I was able to see a homeless person and somehow my analytical skills from calculus kicked in and I gave them some change because I don't need it. I'm even going so far as to argue those kinds of skills are created anyways with people who don't even do MATH of any kind.

and for day to day math I can't think you'd need to do more than algebra.
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math is important
lit is important
science is important
knowing stuff is important

learn as much as you can
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BUT time is limited so you have to pick and choose! some of us

some of us might be dying joe...
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No, there certainly wouldn't be any pressing need to but I can definitely think of times when I wanted/needed to find out something and knowing processes like that has saved me a whole hell of a lot of tedium.

Maybe marmot exaggerated a little bit because he's majoring in something that uses math heavily (and I guess I'm a little biased there too) but I honestly can't think of anyone who wouldn't benefit in some way from it. At the very worst you gain nothing.

I mean shit reading all those english classes in high school didn't do anything for me just by virtue of making me read a lot of fiction, but the act of analyzing them definitely diversified the way I think now.
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BUT time is limited so you have to pick and choose! some of us

some of us might be dying joe...
MIT and berkley put a lot of course lectures and materials online and there are bittorrent links with the entire teaching company catalogue and rosetta stone software language software. Plus project gutenberg has a lot of the western classics online!

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