fyi both of those episodes are what I was referring to. they deliberately pull at your heartstrings during the whole thing and while it was sad, it was also fuckin MAUDLIN if that makes sense.

oh well doooont feel like explaining.

that doesnt even seem like what you were talking about.  you said FOR EXAMPLE if dear zachary was fiction and i agreed because a series of awful/improbable events take place, but i wouldnt call those futurama eps MAUDLIN at all!  luck of the fryrish was a regular ep with lots of flashbacks and one kinda sad scene at the end.  how is that maudlin?  it didn't even pull at any heartstrings until the final scene!  also if we're talking about fiction here, how could it not deliberately do that kind of thing?

Vengeance Trilogy, I recommend it, personally I found the first one, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance the most realistic and depressing one.

Perhaps even more depressing because someone gets their heels slit and drowns for something they couldn't have helped. I'm a sucker for style as well as substance though, so I much prefer Oldboy; although both its predecessor and successor are excellent in their own right(s?).

That scene with the parents watching the killer's videos in Lady Vengeance though... Fuck, that gave me chills for quite a while. By comparison, their revenge was surprisingly mild.

- Eden Lake : A horror movie about a couple on their honeymoon trip but ended up pissed some kids around there off. The kids were really scary in the movie, and not in the "children of the corn" kind of way.

I saw this at the flicks, and it left me feeling really angry. Despite being an exploitation flick (which, let's face it, you have to take with a pinch of salt), it hits quite a few pressure points. Chiefly, the role of the parents in the disciplining of their own children. It's a concern that's particularly prominent here in the UK.

Now yes, the situation presented in Eden Lake is a little exagerrated, but I have met kids like these in the past, and I wouldn't be surprised if they would go to such extremes as sticking a tire over some poor kid's shoulders, dousing him in petrol then setting his head alight.

But I agree with you totally. The ending was certainly... depressing.

this is a depressing cartoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8aFxk0aUuU&fmt=18

I'll get around to watching this when I can spare six continuous minutes, but from what I did see on a cursory flick-through...

...bizarre.

Futurama...... episode Jurassic Bark

Oh yes

Even worse was the commentary for that one ... they didn't even make any mention about the ---. Grr.

- The Girl Next Door : This one is based on a true crime about a girl being tortured to her death by her stepmother and the kids from the neighbourhoods. It's really brutal and very hard to watch.

Wha? I thought that was about some former pornstar chick and a love comedy... or am I thinking of the wrong movie?

Heavy (1995)

Plot:
Victor is a cook who works in a greasy bar/restaurant owned by his mother, Dolly. It's just the two of them, a waitress named Delores, and a heavy drinking regular, Leo. But things change when Callie, a beautiful college drop-out, shows up as a new waitress and steals Victor's heart. But Victor is too shy to do anything about it, and too self-consciously overweight to dream of winning Callie away from her demanding boyfriend, Jeff. Victor's terrible loneliness overwhelms him when he has to face losing what he loves the most.  Written by Martin Lewison

Trailer: http://www.videodetective.com/titledetails.aspx?PublishedID=6793

existenz was a bit of a mindfuck for me. it's pretty weird, since the production kind of distanced me from it through most of the beginning but suddenly i felt a bit fucked up by it.

i wouldnt call it depressing though. just mindfucking.

Bicycle Thieves (Ladri di biciclette/The Bicycle Thief) (Italy, 1948)

A brilliant, but very, very sad film. That's all.

Yeah. "Brilliant, but very, very sad" is pretty much De Sica's MO. Also see: La Ciocara (Two Women) and Il Giardino dei Finzi-Contini (The Garden of the Finzi-Continis).

My film class was going to watch this but we lost a week of class due to an ice storm so this movie was the one we cut out, I guess I'll have to see it on my own.

Oh yea, The Ice Storm is a pretty depressing movie. I really love this movie so it's a real joy for me to bring it up. It's not real deep or anything, and it's been a while since I've seen it, but it's just about a family in the seventies not being able to deal with their problems. Also, some children die.

Il Giardino dei Finzi-Contini (The Garden of the Finzi-Continis).

This book is especially depressing for me because we were reading the book and watching the movie in my English class when my English teacher died.