the thing is that, they don't really care about the people. It's all thrown at you like this is the amazing western heroes comming in to save the innocents from oppression. And you have to think, Really?
Belarus is a dictatorship in europe, where people have a habbit of disappearing if they oppose Lukashenko.
Zimbabwe is... Zimbabwe, surely i dont need to explain.
What about those violent unrest in Thailand last year, where was the brave heroes?
Man, thank god the US is supporting the palastinians, because the US does what it does best, and helps the innocents against the aggressors... Oh wait, most of Israel's weapons come from the UK and US... NEVER MIND!
man, we really helped out by stepping in when the iranian protestors where getting beat.
Praise the brave western countries who have helped out stopping ivory coast's violence.
Thank god North Korea is a shining democracy thanks to american support.
etc etc etc
Western intervention is definately the key to solving the world. HAIL AMERICA!
Thank you for summing it up perfectly.
Western military interventionism is arbitrary. It has nothing to do with helping oppressed civilians. I like your example of Ivory Coast, where a bloody conflict has been going on since the elections in 2009. Another good example is Western Sahara, where the recent round of protests actually originated from in November last year. I'm willing to bet most people don't even know that Western Sahara is a country. It's been under a brutal Moroccan occupation for ages. There's a massive humanitarian crisis going on there, so bad that a huge number of civilians decided to stage a
mass exodus. In response, Moroccan forces came in and completely ravaged the tent cities, killing and wounding many. Western Sahara has also long been a source of human slave trafficking on a massive scale.
I'm pretty sure those that potentially have the ability to do something about this, indirectly or otherwise, know about this. They just don't care enough.
We have the collective memory of a fucking goldfish.
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Much of what made the PR runup to the Iraq war successful was that the left spent far too much time pandering to liberals and less time attempting to establish a militant pole of opposition that called into question the legitimacy of capitalism/imperialism.
I think you can put this into a broader perspective of the left, or at least the professional/popular left (politicians, pundits, popular figures), having been slowly but steadily moving to the right for quite some time now.
I don't have patience for liberals echoing imperialist propaganda and will shout them down when they support shit like this because I'm not some kind of fucking hippie who values everyone's opinion and thinks all perspectives need to be heard out: it needs to be shut down.
Well, I'm not really talking about "hearing people out" so much as recognizing that a lot of people don't understand how this stuff works and working from there. At least, that's the impression I'm getting. But I guess you're right, I am kind of a hippie like that. You're more serious about this than I am. I'm not an activist, I'm a talker.
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Has barack obama changed anything yet?