he deserves it.

Yeah, keep crying about the 15 year old.
I mean, seriously, the girl is SIX years old, the boy is FIFTEEN. If he doesn't know better at 15 then he's not going to know better at, say, 18. If they gave him LIFE I wouldn't have any sympathy for him. He deserves EVERY. FUCKING. YEAR. of his sentence. There is NO reason whatsoever why his sentence should be lightened.

Just for fun, let's see what this kid inflicted to get this OH SO HARSH PUNISHMENT: He should rot in hell and you should go there with him for suggesting his sentence was too harsh. You don't do this shit to a fucking 6 year old (or to anyone, for that matter). You're probably thinking he's not going to have much of a life because of what he did to her. Good, because she may not either.

Zeratul is 23. Zeratul has been alive for just over a third of his sentence.

Zeratul doesn't quite understand that if his sentence runs through he will be 75 years old when he leaves prison.

While this might be extreme, since he was a minor at the time, I really find it hard to care. He horribly beat and sexually assaulted a 6-year-old!

Did you read the description of the girl?

She had half an ear torn off, a lascerated liver, a skull fracture and bruises from the top of her head to her thighs.

That doesn't sound like he just roughed her up a bit. It sounds like he practically tried to kill her. Half an ear torn off? Fractured skull? Seriously, I find it really hard to care that this guy deserves anything less than he is getting.

I don't think he deserves 60 years. He should spend some time in a rehabilitation facility with psychological evaluation before being released. Upon released he should be monitored carefully.

And you also believe that the eight year-old girl who shot a classmate should get 60 years in prison?

Nobody has said it wasn't horrible and no one says that he shouldn't be punished,but there is no reason to give him 60 years when he can improve and become a responsible person.

I tend to feel that sex crimes should be dealt with more harshly than other crimes. But, yeah, I don't necessarily think that 60 years is necessary. I just find it really, really hard to care about this kid.

Depending on the laws in the jurisdiction, this kid's life was pretty much in the can anyways. Give him a "regular" jail term and let him out - he's a sex offender. He isn't getting to drive, go to school, or really...work.

How do people react? If you're John Suburbia with Kathy Homemaker (maiden name) for a wife, with little Susie (six years old) asleep upstairs and you hear that the perpetrator of a crime like this has moved in...down the street/around the block...

Can you say witch-hunt? Death sentence imposed by the general public?

This person would become a horrendous burden on a system that is already over taxed because he would have essentially no way to imrpove himself or support himself. Lets put him on welfare that some other person (with a legitimate dissability) could be utilizing? No...

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Laws with regards to sexual crimes are always touchy. Even the allegation can destroy someone, regardless of whether it is justified or not. For every case where it seems like a "hell yeah, let the bastard rot", there is an "innocent man/woman who can never live a normal life again."

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That said - there are really only two ways to look at this.

If I were the father of a child who suffered what that little girl did - I'd want them to take the rapist's balls off with a razor and feed them to him. I'd want to see the individual tendons sliced through and witness the pain as they snap back against the bones. I'd want them to give him a blood transfusion and make it go on for about six weeks. I'd see him BEG for death or release, as I'm sure that little girl BEGGED, and then I'd see him left in a very small room to starve to death (or drown, not sure on that point- whichever is worse.)

Conversely...

If I were the father of the perpetrator, any sentence would probably seem like too much. I'd just want them to help my son out, who is obviously messed up. He needs to be helped not caged, he is misunderstood. Maybe with the right pharmaecopia he could lead a normal productive life...

As a complete outsider, with nothing invested in either party - I'd say that it sounds about right to me, because, like I said above, this kid was done anyways.

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Yeah, keep crying about the 15 year old.
I mean, seriously, the girl is SIX years old, the boy is FIFTEEN. If he doesn't know better at 15 then he's not going to know better at, say, 18. If they gave him LIFE I wouldn't have any sympathy for him. He deserves EVERY. FUCKING. YEAR. of his sentence. There is NO reason whatsoever why his sentence should be lightened.

Just for fun, let's see what this kid inflicted to get this OH SO HARSH PUNISHMENT: He should rot in hell and you should go there with him for suggesting his sentence was too harsh. You don't do this shit to a fucking 6 year old (or to anyone, for that matter). You're probably thinking he's not going to have much of a life because of what he did to her. Good, because she may not either.

PS, the girl WAS six. Not IS six. He WAS 13 when he committed the crime. Not fifteen.

While this might be extreme, since he was a minor at the time, I really find it hard to care. He horribly beat and sexually assaulted a 6-year-old!

Did you read the description of the girl?

That doesn't sound like he just roughed her up a bit. It sounds like he practically tried to kill her. Half an ear torn off? Fractured skull? Seriously, I find it really hard to care that this guy deserves anything less than he is getting.

Yeah, what he did was absolutely disgraceful, but sixty years. If he's going to be there, it'd probably be better to just kill him since we're talking losing his entire life for a really stupid, and really horrible mistake/explosion/etc.

Sure, for what he did I'd totally understand a 10 - 20 year sentence, but coming out as an old aged pensioner for something he'll regret incredibly 5-10 years of looking at the same cell?

I mean, jesus. Noone's experienced 60 years of life on this forum (unless someone is hiding something), we're all young, we've all lived for around a third of the sentence, maybe less in some cases (maybe more for old people like ktt). We've been alive for a long long time, and even then we can't remember our first few years. Imagine 60.

In Canada, there was a 12-year old girl who killed her brother, father, and mother. She has sentenced to ten years, including four years in a psychiatric institution and four and a half years under conditional supervision in the community.

I would say what this girl did was much worse than sexual assault.

Yeah, what he did was absolutely disgraceful, but sixty years. If he's going to be there, it'd probably be better to just kill him since we're talking losing his entire life for a really stupid, and really horrible mistake/explosion/etc.

Sure, for what he did I'd totally understand a 10 - 20 year sentence, but coming out as an old aged pensioner for something he'll regret incredibly 5-10 years of looking at the same cell?

I mean, jesus. Noone's experienced 60 years of life on this forum (unless someone is hiding something), we're all young, we've all lived for around a third of the sentence, maybe less in some cases (maybe more for old people like ktt). We've been alive for a long long time, and even then we can't remember our first few years. Imagine 60.

20-25 years without parole. He gets seriously punished, and still has a chance at a semi-normal life in his mid-life years.

Or 10-15 years, plus time in a mental institution?

I don't know. I'm not really qualified to determine what sort of punishment this kid should get but, the more I think about it, the more I am agreeing with you. He is/was just a kid, after all. A seriously fucked up kid, but still a kid.

I dunno. I agree that 60 years may be too extreme, but a "stupid mistake?" That's a bit of an understatement.

No one here has sodomized a 6-year old girl before either. Don't compare us to him. He was 13 and he beat her up, but he was a screwy little kid when he raped her. He raped her before beating the shit out of her? He raped her while beating the shit out of her? He raped her after beating the shit out of her? If either of the incidences were separate, I would have recommended juvvy, but I can't see how you can compare his actions to a person not in jail right now.

It is important not to forget that outside the area he lived, he is not very well known. Therefore people will only know that a new guy moved in the area and as long as CNN doesn't come and try to fuck up his life, then he will live there fairly peacefully.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I was pretty sure the residents of the neighborhood you move to have to agree to let you move in or at least be alerted that a sex offender is moving in.  Even if this isn't right, there is someone in pretty much every neighborhood that keeps an eye on sex offenders in the area, it's not something you can really keep secret.  I've looked in my area before, it takes about two seconds to see the sex offenders anywhere in any general area.