Boy, 15, gets 60 years for StL County sex attack of girl, 6

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Lars

#141 November 21, 2007, 03:21:50 pm

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oh

if that was sarcastic that was actually pretty fucking excellent

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cowardknower

#142 November 21, 2007, 04:28:10 pm

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i LOVE how everybody who said
I AM DONE WITH THIS TOPIC MOTHERFUCKS
came back and posted again several times

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fatty

#143 November 21, 2007, 06:25:29 pm

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Quote from: LORd on November 21, 2007, 01:54:23 pm

fatty i just want to say i think you're trying a little too hard to be edgy in this topic.

Quote from: Couch on November 21, 2007, 04:28:10 pm

i LOVE how everybody who said
I AM DONE WITH THIS TOPIC MOTHERFUCKS
came back and posted again several times

everybody=just me right?

Quote from: Lars on November 21, 2007, 01:42:23 pm

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You're classifying people by their industrial worth. How much money they make/take for/from the system. You know what kind of people actually believe in that shit?

You seriously need to reconsider your moral views. Because right now, it seems money is the only kind of moral base you have. And to be frank, your last few posts actually made me nauseous (not the idea, but the fact that a person can honestly believe that stuff), and I have never experienced that at GW ever before. This is like the most morally disgusting shit I've read on here ever. I've read similar on youtube but I've pretty much discounted them. Reading stuff like that on GW is pretty shocking though.

The point of living isn't making society money. It's just a ride.

I think that the more GW realises that that Youtube hate-morality is coming here, the better because then we will be ready to face threats like KK4 and XaviarCraig, despite the fact that some people haven't realised the importance of the situation yet.

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dada

#144 November 21, 2007, 07:15:17 pm

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Quote from: LORd on November 21, 2007, 01:54:23 pm

fatty i just want to say i think you're trying a little too hard to be edgy in this topic.

He's right though. Doubting whether capital punishment is severe or not based on the fact you don't know what happens in the afterlife is pretty astonishingly stupid.

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cowardknower

#145 November 21, 2007, 07:47:39 pm

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doesnt killing someone amount to, as far as we know, infinite punishment? wouldnt it be overdoing it for a finite offense?

<edit> oops off topic

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Pepoke

#146 November 21, 2007, 07:52:53 pm

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Punishment should be about teaching someone a lesson. I dunno know about you, but if I was executed for doing something wrong I wouldnt of learned anything, you know, because Id be dead. I rather have someone imprisoned for 60 years than sentenced to death, because those 60 years gives him a choice to turn his life around[and ][/and], with execution its like YOU SCREW UP ONCE YOU DIE.

And dont get me wrong, Im not supporting the 60 year sentence. Im merely using it in comparision to death.

Edit: I also agree with the things that Dada said. Death is best left by natural causes, and we should have no control over it, imo.

Last Edit: November 21, 2007, 07:56:58 pm by Pepoke

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>>thatll do no good, im already in the house

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#147 November 21, 2007, 09:03:27 pm

orly?
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Wrong, punishment means punishment, not teaching.

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dada

#148 November 21, 2007, 09:21:03 pm

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Quote from: Kassey on November 21, 2007, 09:03:27 pm

Wrong, punishment means punishment, not teaching.

Everybody who had been involved in founding modern civilization disagrees with you.

(Since you didn't give any arguments, I guess I don't need to do that either, but it's still true.)

Last Edit: November 21, 2007, 09:22:53 pm by Dada

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Cray

#149 November 21, 2007, 09:29:39 pm

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punishement as always been about teaching of course, it's itls ultimate function, as a kid, when you're grounded or sent to bed without eating, it's because your parents want you to learn that you did something bad, and therefore not to do it again. when you're setn to prison, is just the same. when you get killed, you can't learn anything.

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Pepoke

#150 November 21, 2007, 09:33:59 pm

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Quote from: Kassey on November 21, 2007, 09:03:27 pm

Wrong, punishment means punishment, not teaching.

Well thats dumb. Thats like saying spank a child just to spank him, not to teach him not to steal a cookie from the jar again[thats ][/thats], hypothetically speaking.

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>im checking the windows before i go to bed..
>>thatll do no good, im already in the house

Oh, that dog of mine!

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LORd

#151 November 22, 2007, 03:03:26 pm

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Quote from: fatty on November 21, 2007, 06:25:29 pm

everybody=just me right?

I think you'll find that Couch posted after me! But beyond that I have no idea what you're trying to tell me.

Quote from: Dada on November 21, 2007, 07:15:17 pm

He's right though. Doubting whether capital punishment is severe or not based on the fact you don't know what happens in the afterlife is pretty astonishingly stupid.

You're correct, but I was just wondering if I'm really the only one bothered by how aggressive fatty suddenly became in this thread? I just find it slightly unbecoming of him to make what are essentially misappropriated The Truth posts.

Did I accidentally slip some lecturing mod tone in there? I only meant it as a personal aside and kind of regret it now since I didn't expect it to deviate this much.

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#152 November 22, 2007, 06:15:14 pm

orly?
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Quote from: Dada on November 21, 2007, 09:21:03 pm

Everybody who had been involved in founding modern civilization disagrees with you.

(Since you didn't give any arguments, I guess I don't need to do that either, but it's still true.)

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Well thats dumb. Thats like saying spank a child just to spank him, not to teach him not to steal a cookie from the jar again[thats called child abuse, btw], hypothetically speaking.

Well, I think punishment is a way to pay for your crimes and for the loss you caused, it's not like spanking children for eating a cookie. The government is not your father.

Giving chance for rehabilitation is a different story, I'm talking about prison. Of course it has a teaching side but it's mainly about punishing you.

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dada

#153 November 22, 2007, 07:08:33 pm

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Quote from: Kassey on November 22, 2007, 06:15:14 pm

Well, I think

I think a lot of things, too.

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Kaempfer

#154 November 22, 2007, 07:11:23 pm

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Quote from: Dada on November 21, 2007, 09:21:03 pm

Everybody who had been involved in founding modern civilization disagrees with you.

(Since you didn't give any arguments, I guess I don't need to do that either, but it's still true.)

You will probably totally destroy me in any argument, but: I wouldn't say they are correct in their assumptions that punishment=teaching, as crime rates are steadily increasing every year, with more and more repeat offenders. Obviously they are socio-economic reasons and factors in this, but it still stands to reason that the penal system does not work very well. I am not saying I have a better system, but it still doesn't work very well.

Punishment is usually used as a deterrent rather than rehabilitation, with regards to prison. More people are deterred by jail or the prospect of returning to jail than are "fixed" by the system.

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#155 November 23, 2007, 12:10:56 am

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I just noticed alot of people are quoting my posts BEFORE I admitted they were probably bad ideas... Did you people miss the 2nd post on the 4th page of this thread? I openly admitted my ideas were wrong and disregarded them. Zeratul's points convinced me I had the wrong approach, therefore I revoked all previous thoughts/ideas.... Just thought I would point this out seeing as people are still acting like I stand firmly by what I said earlier....

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olrox

#156 November 23, 2007, 06:54:50 am

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Raping a little girl?! Thats teh worst act that someone can do to a children, all that bastards deserve to die!!!

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#157 November 23, 2007, 07:06:55 am

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Quote from: olrox on November 23, 2007, 06:54:50 am

Raping a little girl?! Thats teh worst act that someone can do to a children, all that bastards deserve to die!!!

HE STILL IS A CHILDREN!

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dada

#158 November 23, 2007, 07:12:05 am

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Quote from: Kaempfer on November 22, 2007, 07:11:23 pm

You will probably totally destroy me in any argument, but: I wouldn't say they are correct in their assumptions that punishment=teaching, as crime rates are steadily increasing every year, with more and more repeat offenders. Obviously they are socio-economic reasons and factors in this, but it still stands to reason that the penal system does not work very well. I am not saying I have a better system, but it still doesn't work very well.

Punishment is usually used as a deterrent rather than rehabilitation, with regards to prison. More people are deterred by jail or the prospect of returning to jail than are "fixed" by the system.

I'm not saying deterrence isn't a factor, I'm saying that it's not just about one thing. Like I explained before, there are several functions a punishment given by the state fulfills. It's not all black and white.

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olrox

#159 November 23, 2007, 07:16:34 am

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Quote from: Catslacks on November 23, 2007, 07:06:55 am

HE STILL IS A CHILDREN!

Sorry, i cannot explained my self, i mean big guys that makes that kind of terrible things

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#160 November 23, 2007, 10:21:54 am

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Quote from: DarkPriest on November 16, 2007, 03:00:47 pm

He can rot for an eternity for all I care. Kidnapped, raped and abused a 6 year old? No compassion from me.

Précisement. Say bye bye to your life, kiddo. It's too bad they couldn't just give him the chair or something.

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