yeah that's not true

NDs can sometimes prescribe pharmaceuticals and perform minor surgeries, but they do not have an MD and if they "study pretty much everything a regular doctor studies" they would get an MD unless they are complete idiots.

The point of Naturpathic Medicine is prevention so you don't have to take drugs and undergo surgery.

This is what they study:
http://www.bastyr.edu/education/naturopath/degree_curriculum/4_year_track.asp
http://www.ncnm.edu/academics-at-ncnm/Program_Layouts.htm
http://www.nuhs.edu/show.asp?durki=475
http://www.bridgeport.edu/pages/2632.asp

So I wouldn't consider it a "bullshit degree/study."

I really like the word Naturopathic. Has a ring of authenticity to it

yeah dude I am not seeing someone without a medical degree. you're a fucking idiot.

wait what minor surgeries and drugs can an ND provide.

I would hope NONE.

yeah NDs aren't doctors, I can't believe you would even think I'd go to one instead of an MD. jesus christ.

buttttt hey if you guys know any other good cancer centers I might want to talk to, feel free to post them. I'm calling Johns Hopkins Monday. chances are the treatment I'm on is the best one but you never know.

also to those of you interested in the physical effects of stuff like this, and what I have to look forward to, Lance Armstrong's book was surprisingly informative. cycles 3 and 4 are going to be a bitch for me and the year after (remission) is going to be pretty scary!

it's not a good book really but it's informative so LIBRARY maybe?

I'm pretty sure that University of Pittsburgh has one of the best cancer centers in the world.

gimme a url pal!

I never said go to an ND instead of an MD.  I said go and get an opinion from one.  Go to both it's  probably the best way.

no, it's a waste of money and if I was more gullible (ie you) I might listen to a quackjob instead of getting treatment.

anyways posting because I have the answer to the question you all want to ask

chemo is taking away my pubes!

it's not as bad as with the hair but yeah when I wash down there, more hairs than usually come up. it's weird because I think my beard is still growing.

anyways, today was a good health day, no adverse effects or anything. as I mentioned in another thread, I've been taking a spoonful of honey instead of the nausea medicines and it's been working so far, so thanks Render.

I'd also like to address something someone said in another thread, which is that I'm using this basically as a blog. I'd like to say this is 100% correct! I'd ordinarily have created a blog (I mentioned a video log earlier) but honestly there are days when the pain gets too much and I just want to say "today was a bad day" and elaborate later, something a blog isn't friendly to doing. the pain killers also sometimes affect my ability to focus; Hundley gave me the script of Faceless to read, and while it's large I've made so little headway because I suddenly lose my thought process and WHO IS THIS HOBO WHY IS HE TALKING TO ME. so I've been using this thread somewhat as a blog, yes. I really hope you guys don't mind and I'll try and keep it limited to updates about interesting things (I genuinely think that picture of my throat is one of the simultaneously scariest and funniest things I've ever seen) and when stuff happens.

and hopefully we'll close this thread at the end of September with a WE BEAT CANCER (although there's a year of terror after that)!

also doktormartini, I know you won't read this (by which I mean understand it), but you really should.

http://quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/harmquack.html

Ruth Conrad, an Idaho woman, had a horrible experience as a result of consulting one of the state's many unlicensed naturopaths. While seeking treatment for a sore shoulder, she also complained of a bump on her nose. The naturopath stated that it was cancer and gave her a black herbal salve to apply directly. Within a few days, her face became very painful and she developed red streaks that ran down her cheeks. Her worried phone call to the naturopath brought the explanation that the presence of the lines was a good sign because they "resemble a crab, and cancer is a crab." He also advised her to apply more of the black salve. Within a week, a large part of her face, including her nose, sloughed off. It took three years and 17 plastic surgical operations to reconstruct her face

thanks, I'll give them a call monday as well!

if they give you a lifesaving treatment i expect a fruit basket mister

if they say they can up my odds and I make it through this I'll personally fly out to whereever the fuck you are and shake your hand.