also 10x is guna do nuttin, get 40x.

Heh Salvia has been a really mixed bag for me.  The extracted leaf is NOT standardize, so you are really playing russian roulette with the potency.  I have had 5x that sent me on a full trip with one good rip and 20x that didn't do anything more than the threshold/light effects.  I personally just buy the cheapest extract and hope for the best.  I don't use salvia anymore though, so good luck!

I've had the same experience. Sometimes 120x ends up being 40x, which is only as strong as the 5x someone else had. So it's really all over the place.

Salvia, haha. Everyone I know just finds it to be an uncomfortable trip, but some people like that ish I guess.

I decided to take a break from smoking so I can get my life back together, but I had one hell of a last day of it. It's my brothers 22nd birthday and we're (both brothers and friends) going around to all these bars and they I.D.'d everybody so I couldn't drink. Only 20 =(. It just made me want to smoke so bad. I hadn't smoked like all week and I remember buying some crip earlier in the week to help me with some stupid stomach virus I caught; I had like a half-eighth left. I ended up smoking it with a buddy of mine in a blunt while driving around after it had been long enough watching everyone get drunk. As soon as we get back to Applebee's I just noticed I was high as hell. I started conversation with people outside and I noticed this fucking sound that wouldn't go away. The best I could describe it...it sounded like there a motorcycle, like a sport bike, and it sounded like it was far away constantly driving closer but it never did. I started freaking out and I was like, what the fuck is that sound? and i guess nobody else heard it. i remember a girl asking what sound and that's when i decided not to say anything. About the time I thought it was going to drive me crazy I went inside to see if it would go away. It atleast sounded muffled when I closed the door behind me and I went to the safe zone - the bathroom. I was just sitting on the toilet trying to get all my thoughts in order and everyone in my party made their way into the bathroom had conversation and I walked out at the end. I was ripped as hell. I still felt weird and I couldn't really sit down without feeling anxious. I saw this chick with a piece of gum and I begged for it, had cottonmouth like a bitch, and I started chewing it. And that's when I realized something else. My mouth felt like it was numb and I had that pins and needles feeling whenever I was chewing. It came to the point when everyone wanted to leave and they were talking about going to party more, but I was freaking out so hard. I kept saying, yeah we should go home. After a few minutes of freaking out, sitting down, standing up, walking around, sitting down, I realized I was tripping and started laughing. Called my friend to tell him of the instance and went back to our friends house to have a few beers to get rid of the fading anxiety. It was one hell of a night.

the fuck did you smoke? cannabis?


or was it about salvia?

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Salvia doesn't last that long.

Oh shit. Yeah sorry forgot to clarify. Yeah it was cannibus. I never heard of anyone refering to salvia quantities as half-eights or rolling blunts with it. 

bro could you break up your big text walls into more manageable chunks

I dont even want to read your posts because all I see is a big huge impregnable block of characters

I don't know if any of you have seen this, but I laughed during it several times.

It's featured on the YouTube Canada page.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i2spZ-NDfS4

I'm not a perpetual drug user (not to say I haven't tried some small stuff like pot though..), but I have no problem what so ever with people doing drugs (hey, everyone should be allowed to enjoy what they want, right?). So my question is this: Those of you who would readily call themselves active drug users, how do you feel about the public perception that all druggies are slow, dumb, lazy, etc? Do you think that drugs have really made you more lazy/whatever? Does it piss you off people think this way or do you honestly not give a shit?

Sorry if this question was asked already (I bet it has..) but I didn't feel like reading through the entire thread.

A lot of people, and I will say the majority of drug users, are using simply to escape some aspect of their life, or perhaps to fit in with the crowd, or maybe just because drugs are seen in a negative context and they embrace that as a sort of counter-culture action. And so the public is largely correct with their generalization that druggies are a little slower, dumber, or lazier, however it is important to note that this is, in fact, a generalization. Drugs of the kind we talk about, and this goes heavily for psychedelics, are largely misunderstood. The government, and other private antidrug organizations, propagate lies and misinformation about how these drugs work, what their effects really are, and what risks are involved. They are largely hypocrites; the ones who say mushrooms wrecks the mind and then continue to drink, smoke, and take pop antidepressants like candy-corn. This social idea has been created that drugs, which are not legal or are similar in effects to ones that aren't legal, are just plain 'bad.' There's no explanation beyond that.

We can take a drug like Salvia, for instance, and use that to point out the obvious failings of the government to provide either sufficient reason why these drugs are illegal, or why some of these drugs aren't illegal. The laws are basically defined on a whim and are pretty arbitrary. They help create black markets, which then causes of to waste more money trying to stop that very black market and perpetuates the negative view of drugs by relating them to underground markets, shifty characters, and violence. It is a sad thing that many of these drugs aren't even available to scientists (legally) and this halts research and further impairs our ability to understand more about how they work (which could potentially lead to great advances in the fields of neurology, biochemistry, and cognition study). There is a lot of what I would call misuse in the community of drug users, and these people far outweigh the psychonaughts and intellectuals who are genuinely interested in understanding their universe more deeply.

Devnore, please dont EVER use copper or tin foil (or a plastic pen for that matter). You can get a bong about as high as that coke bottle for 9$ at most head shops. You'll save more weed, and will have better tasting, cleaner hits.

Hey guys, serious question - I heard they were doing some research with Sativex in Spain or somewhere, and they found that it might reduce brain tumors or something like that. Did I imagine it or what? I couldn't find the article again and I'm weirded out

Dunno why that would wierd you out. When I found out THC was used to treat glaucoma, and cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, I felt a strange sense of pride

I'm not a perpetual drug user (not to say I haven't tried some small stuff like pot though..), but I have no problem what so ever with people doing drugs (hey, everyone should be allowed to enjoy what they want, right?). So my question is this: Those of you who would readily call themselves active drug users, how do you feel about the public perception that all druggies are slow, dumb, lazy, etc? Do you think that drugs have really made you more lazy/whatever? Does it piss you off people think this way or do you honestly not give a shit?

Sorry if this question was asked already (I bet it has..) but I didn't feel like reading through the entire thread.

I think that perception is just ridiculous - nothing is going to be good for you unless you enjoy it in moderation. The certain people who take it too far are the stereotypical 'druggies'.

I smoke a fair bit of weed, I drink heaps, I experiment, but I'm just having fun. I'm still studying and getting good grades and I'm holding down an office job. It's just, I'm 18, I know my limits and I want to have fun. I think many others are in the same position. I feel sympathy for the people who slowly go into a drug spiral without noticing, but for people who abuse it for the sake of abusing it I don't have any sympathy, since it's people who abuse drugs (mostly 'hard' drugs) that give all psychoactives a bad name, when it shouldn't be.

I've been high pretty much non stop for the past week (christmas holidays for the win) and I've still been going out lots, being social, working and doing other hobbies. I guess it just depends on the person, and that person knowing their personal limits.