maaaan this is so weird.

the first doctor was like IT LOOKS LIKE CANCER, the nurse was all SPEND THE TIME YOU HAVE LEFT, the oncologist is all IT COULD BE 50-50, GOOD OR BAD.

and then everyone else in my life, like without exception, has been like IT'S PROBABLY JUST A LYMPHOMA THOSE THINGS ARE CURABLE or EH ITS NOTHING.

instead of having the effect of relief this has made me more upset!

Lymphomas are not to be taken lightly... Depending on the kind, it can be really devastating. My dad was left with sequels for life because of a Lymphoma.
Additionally, I'm not even sure a lymphoma can develop INSIDE the lungs.

You people don't understand how medicine works. A doctor is never 100% sure of anything... Plus the fact it's not really against any ethical code to say that... It would be a different story if she had grabbed your medical record and written cancer on it or some shit like that. And how do you know she does not have experience with cancer and maybe it really looked like it? Or maybe she had had a shit week, was stressed out and misinterpreted the image? Chill the fuck out, anyone can commit mistakes and suing/getting someone fired for a comment is most certainly the douchest thing you could do.

Well, think of it this way:

- You complain to the hospital for what the nurse did.
- Hospital doesn't want to get sued, so fires the nurse.
- Nurse goes home and cries and possibly becomes vindicative.
- Hospital has to take the time and money to interview, hire and train a new nurse, who'll probably take some time to get used to procedures. Lots of bullshit occurs and everyone is upset about the extra work that needs to be done now to get back to the way things were before. So while the "right" thing was done, it pretty much puts a damper on everyone's life (except yours I guess). Also, you made a girl cry ​.

Or..

- You tell the nurse that what she did was unacceptable and that she could be fired for it. Hopefully if she's gotten this far in life, then she'll understand what you mean and won't do it again. People ARE capable of changing and improving after all.

Considering she's your nurse, aren't you going to see her again at some point? I don't know cause I've never been hospitalized, but I don't think it'd be that difficult to get in contact with her. And I mean like, if you're willing to go to the trouble of filing a complaint, its probably not that much of a step up to ask whoever your nurse is now, if you could see that particular nurse.

I find it hilarious that people defend this nurse - steel has every right to try to get her fired or even sue her. You DO NOT tell someone they have X amount of time to live without even knowing if there is cancer present or not... god you don't even tell them that their days are numbered. If this nurse doesn't get fired she may repeat her actions in the future.

Case in point: My friend told me a story about his uncle John who was diagnosed with cancer and one of the doctors told him that he had 3 months to live. With this knowledge, John sold all his assets including his house, cars, basically everything, and then donated the money to charity. 3 months later he was still alive... and... jesus, 6 YEARS later he's actually doing pretty okay! But he sued much earlier than that, oh yes. The hospital was going shit shit when John's lawyers came knocking on the door and, long story short, they settled and he was given 2 million dollars.

You people don't understand how medicine works. A doctor is never 100% sure of anything... Plus the fact it's not really against any ethical code to say that... It would be a different story if she had grabbed your medical record and written cancer on it or some shit like that. And how do you know she does not have experience with cancer and maybe it really looked like it? Or maybe she had had a shit week, was stressed out and misinterpreted the image? Chill the fuck out, anyone can commit mistakes and suing/getting someone fired for a comment is most certainly the douchest thing you could do.

uh...apparently you don't know anything about how medicine works. you are right a doctor is not 100% sure of anything that is why you don't tell a patient about a possible diagnosis until later and in private and after you've done some tests. it's completely against EVERY medical ethics code, what's wrong with you? you think nurses have any right to go and tell people they have cancer when they don't actually know? what if, god willing, I don't have cancer and it in fact is pneumonia (something she specifically ruled out)? do you know what PROFESSIONAL ETHICS are? oh whoops she got stressed because her boyfriend yelled at her and told me I was going to die of cancer are you fucking dense? on the worst day of my life I wouldn't fuck up that bad, and you're telling me it's just a comment.

this isn't some mistake, this is telling someone they are going to die. SOME MISTAKE, are you nuts? aren't you training to be a doctor, what's wrong with you?

nah that's not what it is.  she made a huge huuuuge mistake but i'm mostly not big on people being fired over mistakes that didn't actually REALLY hurt anyone.  like, i think in this case it'd be pretty obvious to her how she fucked up and probably not something she'd ever do again if she knew how close to being fired she came over it, so i don't even feel like you're really protecting anyone else from her.  if the person she'd told had done something drastic then that is one thing, but BIG PICTURE it hasn't really done a whole lot to you and this isn't really the type of mistake you don't learn from, so losing her job over it seems like a shame.

ps was she hot

what BIG PICTURE is there? like, you people are acting like this is someone getting a mechanic's order wrong and putting some tires on. what do you expect me to do? I don't know this woman's name, being that shortly after being introduced to her she told me I was going to die and that detail kind of escaped me with my mom falling wailing to the floor. the only option I have is to write to the hospital and tell them some woman who worked a shift that day told me I was going to die and yeah she'll probably be fired for it but I think you're seriously comparing a loss of a job to essentially proclaiming a death sentence on someone (regardless of whether or not it's valid) and I don't think that's too bad of a tradeoff.

maybe everyone thinks I'm going to regularly interact with this person or even see them again? because that's not how hospitals work!

Of course he has the right to. She's the one who screwed up, and because of it, he and his mom are potentially traumatized.

We're just debating whether he should or shouldn't.

Of course he has the right to. She's the one who screwed up, and because of it, he and his mom are potentially traumatized.

We're just debating whether he should or shouldn't.

I'm saying he has the right to, and should.

not so sick that he cant have big arguments--with bazookatooth no less...........

I'm saying he has the right to, and should.

I'm guessing this is what'll happen if he does:

- You complain to the hospital for what the nurse did.
- Hospital doesn't want to get sued, so fires the nurse.
- Nurse goes home and cries and possibly becomes vindicative.
- Hospital has to take the time and money to interview, hire and train a new nurse, who'll probably take some time to get used to procedures. Lots of bullshit occurs and everyone is upset about the extra work that needs to be done now to get back to the way things were before. So while the "right" thing was done, it pretty much puts a damper on everyone's life (except yours I guess). Also, you made a girl cry ​.

All in the name of preserving the justice..

EDIT:

ps was she hot

Considering she's your nurse, aren't you going to see her again at some point? I don't know cause I've never been hospitalized, but I don't think it'd be that difficult to get in contact with her. And I mean like, if you're willing to go to the trouble of filing a complaint, its probably not that much of a step up to ask whoever your nurse is now, if you could see that particular nurse.

no I won't be seeing her again. I'm at home, I don't HAVE A NURSE or whatever.

I just don't get why I'm sparing this woman's job when, let's face it, she's ruined my week. and I don't mean like UGH I DIDN'T GO TO CHARLOTTE THIS WEEKEND TO HANG WITH SREDNI, but I'm 22 years old and considering what I should do before I die (although right now and hell usually when I'm at GW I try and keep those thoughts distant), that's not something I should have to do. my dad died of cancer so my mom has just been a wreck and praying constantly and keeps putting weird hindu stones on my head and all this shit because she's scared shitless, as am I!

am I angry at her, of course I am, but this isn't vindictiveness, this is a basic job requirement that she's failed and spectacularly at that. even if this is cancer, she didn't deal with it in the right way at all and that was really fucked up. so yeah, what the fuck. also as I said earlier, my mom's doctor friend essentially begged me to file a complaint since this kind of shit is stuff they need to improve and even if she doesn't get fired (which if she's as magically competent as GW seems to think she is she won't be) it's something the hospital needs to address anyways.

big picture means in the grand scheme of things you worried for a few days WHICH SUCKS but it's not like you did anything that you shouldn't have as a result of what she told you.  in a few weeks or months or years or whatever you will be like "man those few days were terrible" but it won't really have any lasting impact whatsoever aside from maybe putting you in touch with your own mortality, which is arguably a good thing.  i don't really think she's a danger to other patients and like i said this doesn't seem like it will have any negative lasting effect so it's kind of EHHHH to try to get her fired which VERY WELL MIGHT have a huge lasting effect for her and possibly her family.

that's a whole lot of presumption based on nothing that she's not going to do this again and this shit has been pretty traumatic for my family as a whole so it's not just "worrying for a few days", so yeah fuck her etc. everyone seems to ignore this is her job and she fucked it up pretty goddam badly!

like, I think everyone saying "no steel dont" is ignoring the fact that this was passing a death sentence on someone else, not just "whoops forgot your middle initial". I don't really know what qualification there is for being fired short of her actually KILLING or HARMING me there is, and I disagree that there is none! there's basic professional ethics and when you violate them so grossly, get fired.

- You complain to the hospital for what the nurse did.
- Hospital doesn't want to get sued, so fires the nurse.
- Nurse goes home and cries and possibly becomes vindicative.
- Hospital has to take the time and money to interview, hire and train a new nurse, who'll probably take some time to get used to procedures. Lots of bullshit occurs and everyone is upset about the extra work that needs to be done now to get back to the way things were before. So while the "right" thing was done, it pretty much puts a damper on everyone's life (except yours I guess). Also, you made a girl cry ​.

that's stupid. that's like saying no one should be fired for anything ever because OH NO; YOU HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE NEW AND THE PERSON WHO GOT FIRED WILL BE SAD.

not so sick that he cant have big arguments--with bazookatooth no less...........

honestly this stupid little derail keeps my mind off the fact that someone told me I'm going to die not that long ago and I find out whether or not tomorrow at like 2:30.

but thanks adeline you grounded that little plane.

basically this entire thing reminds me of the emo phillips comedy routine where he says he found a wallet and he thought to himself "what would I want if this was my wallet and I lost it

I would want to be taught a lesson".

Steel,

(aside from the prior posts about the arguing about the nurse) I noticed your comment about the possible mold.  I went to see my little sister today, and I was reminded, she actually had a growth which ended up being mold, growing on the outside of her stomach/esophagus.  They put her on some antibiotics for a few months and she kicked that shit goodbye.

So hopefully that's a possibility too and they don't even have to cut you open or anything.  Anyway, it's a little more common than I thought (the mold), so thought I'd bring that up -- hopefully you're all good!  Best luck with the results tomorrow!

--Terin

big picture means in the grand scheme of things you worried for a few days WHICH SUCKS but it's not like you did anything that you shouldn't have as a result of what she told you.  in a few weeks or months or years or whatever you will be like "man those few days were terrible" but it won't really have any lasting impact whatsoever aside from maybe putting you in touch with your own mortality, which is arguably a good thing.  i don't really think she's a danger to other patients and like i said this doesn't seem like it will have any negative lasting effect so it's kind of EHHHH to try to get her fired which VERY WELL MIGHT have a huge lasting effect for her and possibly her family.

ahaha what about the next 10 patients that take up bullfighting and donate their organs etc when the nurse diagnoses the doctors thumbprint in an x-ray as terminal cancer?

edit: it's be awesome if it was mold if only for the jokes we can make

honestly this stupid little derail keeps my mind off the fact that someone told me I'm going to die not that long ago and I find out whether or not tomorrow at like 2:30.

but thanks adeline you grounded that little plane.

fuck sorry about that pal. you know i wouldn't mean to do that!!