Zeratul: You believe that if a person might destroy the life of a person (with intention?) then he deserves to rot in hell. Why doesn't all other rapist get life sentence? Why don't everyone who murders someone get life sentence? For instance there was a girl at about age 8 i think and she took her father's gun with her one day and killed one of her classmates. She should get life sentence right? I pretty sure she's out now and haven't killed another person, but you believe that she should get life sentence.
I don't preside over cases. I am not a judge. I have my feelings on these matters and I have the benefit of not having a robe to uphold. Obviously judges (ideally) do not work off of their feelings and so forth and instead uphold the relevant laws (with some room left in for them to move at their discretion). If I am not mistaken, however, the worst sentences are meant to be reserved to those who willingly and in a complete sane state of mind committed a heinous crime (which he did) and demonstrate no remorse (which he has). It is in that spirit in which I wholeheartedly do not disagree with the long sentencing (although if it makes you feel any better, such a sentence probably won't hold up under appeal).
I don't know enough about the girl's case to comment on that. Maybe it was an accident, maybe since she's 8 she didn't realize the consequences of her actions. I don't know enough to make a judgment. I don't think that each and every murder/rape is justified by a long sentence, but based on what I know about this case, I don't feel sorry for the boy.
PS, the girl WAS six. Not IS six. He WAS 13 when he committed the crime. Not fifteen.
That was pointed out earlier and I admitted my oversight. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by bringing it up again.
Zeratul is 23. Zeratul has been alive for just over a third of his sentence.
Zeratul doesn't quite understand that if his sentence runs through he will be 75 years old when he leaves prison.
Zeratul understands quite well how to add and subtract numbers and therefore Zeratul is quite aware that this kid will be white haired, arthritic, and lacking knowledge of a real life beyond the prison cell if he even lives long enough to live out his sentence. Zeratul just doesn't happen to think that this is the worst of atrocities given that the girl he kidnapped and physically and sexually abused is going to be screwed for life in ways that Zeratul will not pretend to be able to predict, except of course to note that it will not be good.
Look, if you want my honest opinion, I really don't care about this boy or his sentence. I don't disagree with his sentence. If he'd gotten less I wouldn't be out on the St Louis courthouse steps protesting or something.
I'm mostly annoyed by the larger issue wherein I know and hear too many people who read or listen to a story like this and their first concern -- their FIRST concern -- is the comfort and rights of the criminal. What about the victim? The criminal has all kinds of appeals he can run and in all honesty he probably won't serve more than maybe 20 years, if that -- people have gotten less time for more horrible crimes. There is almost nothing the 6 year old girl will be able to do to avoid the effect this traumatic experience is going to have on her life. Her relationship with other people will almost certainly be affected. She may never know intimacy. I mean, of course, these are suppositions -- some people go through this type of event and come out just fine. But chances are good that she will not.
I mean, just look at the posts in this topic. Nearly everyone is largely concerned with the criminal and his rights, as if the crime he committed against a 6 year old girl was just a footnote or something. Chances are good that she is going to be fucked up for life, and I'm supposed to be up in arms because the perpetrator might be fucked for life too?
I had a girlfriend who was raped from 2 to 12. That shit fucks with your ability to live a decent life. I don't CARE if the criminal EVER gets out of jail.